IDF murders children playing on beach

[Indofred]

I see little point in this thread any more.
Israel has now been proven innocent of all crimes.
Of course, Israeli law is now changing so all criminals will try themselves in court, only allowing the witnesses the defence want to appear.

The conviction rate for that country is expected to drop to zero by the middle of next week.

Israeli soldiers are convicted of crimes by Israeli courts. It is standard for Israel to investigate charges of soldier misconduct or potential war crimes. Even charges of cursing or striking a palestinian are brought to court.

Only when they're caught red handed on video, and that gets onto the internet.
Not always then.

 

[aris2chat]

I see little point in this thread any more.
Israel has now been proven innocent of all crimes.
Of course, Israeli law is now changing so all criminals will try themselves in court, only allowing the witnesses the defence want to appear.

The conviction rate for that country is expected to drop to zero by the middle of next week.

Israeli soldiers are convicted of crimes by Israeli courts. It is standard for Israel to investigate charges of soldier misconduct or potential war crimes. Even charges of cursing or striking a palestinian are brought to court.

Only when they're caught red handed on video, and that gets onto the internet.
Not always then.

and when hamas is caught red handed even on video, they are called heroes and leaders incite more such attacks/crimes/violations/lies.

 

[RoccoR]

P F Tinmore, et al,

Certainly this is a very curious question to ask.

...the UNDPR is the only UN Division devoted to a single group of people...​

How many other groups of people are stateless with no rights?

Name some.

(REFERENCE)

Just to name a few of the most recent.

Dominican Republic to be 'Socially Cleaned' in two days

In two days about a quarter of a million people will be made stateless. They will have no homes, no passports, and no civil rights. There are several reasons for this, but the primary reason is racism. At issue is a ruling …
Daily Kos · 18 minutes ago

India, Bangladesh sign historic land boundary agreement, end 41-year-long misery of 50,000 stateless people

DHAKA: India and Bangladesh settled their 4,096-km long prickly land boundary dispute on Saturday. As Prime Minister Narendra Modi and Sheikh Hasina exchanged instruments of ratification of the land boundary …
Times of India · 6/7/2015

(COMMENT)

But this doesn't apply to any Palestinians ---- none.

Currently, the People of the West Bank and Gaza Strip are citizens of the State of Palestine. Declared Independence on 15 November 1988. These are not stateless people (means a person who is not considered as a national by any State under the operation of its law) with no rights. They have all the rights that any Palestinian of the the State has.

Currently, the Palestinians have declared "war" on Israel and part of it is occupied as a protective measure against hostile action. Currently, those areas that are occupied are administered by the Occupation Force and applying the protections of the Fourth Geneva Convention.

But otherwise, they are not stateless and not without rights. Thus far --- the Palestinians have been belligerent negotiators, unable to come to terms with acceptable peace arrangements.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[montelatici]

P F Tinmore, et al,

Certainly this is a very curious question to ask.

...the UNDPR is the only UN Division devoted to a single group of people...​

How many other groups of people are stateless with no rights?

Name some.

(REFERENCE)

Just to name a few of the most recent.

Dominican Republic to be 'Socially Cleaned' in two days
View attachment 42559
In two days about a quarter of a million people will be made stateless. They will have no homes, no passports, and no civil rights. There are several reasons for this, but the primary reason is racism. At issue is a ruling …
Daily Kos · 18 minutes ago

India, Bangladesh sign historic land boundary agreement, end 41-year-long misery of 50,000 stateless people
View attachment 42560
DHAKA: India and Bangladesh settled their 4,096-km long prickly land boundary dispute on Saturday. As Prime Minister Narendra Modi and Sheikh Hasina exchanged instruments of ratification of the land boundary …
Times of India · 6/7/2015

(COMMENT)

But this doesn't apply to any Palestinians ---- none.

Currently, the People of the West Bank and Gaza Strip are citizens of the State of Palestine. Declared Independence on 15 November 1988. These are not stateless people (means a person who is not considered as a national by any State under the operation of its law) with no rights. They have all the rights that any Palestinian of the the State has.

Currently, the Palestinians have declared "war" on Israel and part of it is occupied as a protective measure against hostile action. Currently, those areas that are occupied are administered by the Occupation Force and applying the protections of the Fourth Geneva Convention.

But otherwise, they are not stateless and not without rights. They have, thus far, they Palestinians have been belligerent negotiators, unable to come to terms with acceptable peace arrangements.

Most Respectfully,
R

"Currently, the People of the West Bank and Gaza Strip are citizens of the State of Palestine."

Just as the non-whites were citizens of the Bantustans in South Africa. Good move. How far did it get the Boers?

 

[RoccoR]

montelatici, et al,

Fortunately, that is an irrelevant question. We are not dealing with the racial issues of the Boers and South African politics. We are talking about the Arab Palestinians that took a solemn oath to further Jihad.

"Currently, the People of the West Bank and Gaza Strip are citizens of the State of Palestine."

Just as the non-whites were citizens of the Bantustans in South Africa. Good move. How far did it get the Boers?

(COMMENT)

The Arab Palestinian people represent a clear and present danger to the safety, security and sovereignty of the State of Israel and it citizenry. In the last seven decades, that Arab Palestinian has promoted violence and maintained the policy that "Jihad becomes the individual duty of every Moslem" and that "There is no solution for the Palestinian question except through Jihad."

It is what it is. Every single week we hear the voice of the Hostile Arab Palestinians attempt to provoke or encourage and threat to the peace, breach of the peace, or act of aggression.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[montelatici]

montelatici, et al,

Fortunately, that is an irrelevant question. We are not dealing with the racial issues of the Boers and South African politics. We are talking about the Arab Palestinians that took a solemn oath to further Jihad.

"Currently, the People of the West Bank and Gaza Strip are citizens of the State of Palestine."

Just as the non-whites were citizens of the Bantustans in South Africa. Good move. How far did it get the Boers?

(COMMENT)

The Arab Palestinian people represent a clear and present danger to the safety, security and sovereignty of the State of Israel and it citizenry. In the last seven decades, that Arab Palestinian has promoted violence and maintained the policy that "Jihad becomes the individual duty of every Moslem" and that "There is no solution for the Palestinian question except through Jihad."

It is what it is. Every single week we hear the voice of the Hostile Arab Palestinians attempt to provoke or encourage and threat to the peace, breach of the peace, or act of aggression.

Most Respectfully,
R

Well, the hostile European colonists went to Palestine to eliminate and/or evict the people living in Palestine, should the Christians and Muslims not try to regain their land and homes?

 

[montelatici]

These are the nice Zionists are they not hostile maniacs?

 

[Phoenall]

I see little point in this thread any more.
Israel has now been proven innocent of all crimes.
Of course, Israeli law is now changing so all criminals will try themselves in court, only allowing the witnesses the defence want to appear.

The conviction rate for that country is expected to drop to zero by the middle of next week.

Israel is farce city. Every time it investigates itself it finds itself not guilty. Coincidence that. Look at Cast Lead.

1400 people killed the vast majority civilians including hundreds of children. Vast amounts of civilian infrastructure destroyed.

And the only one bounced was a low rank putz who stole a credit card.

And how does Palestine deal with its criminals when they murder innocent children, they elevate them to saints and give them a pension. Then name schools and streets after them so they are never forgotten.

 

[Phoenall]

montelatici, et al,

Fortunately, that is an irrelevant question. We are not dealing with the racial issues of the Boers and South African politics. We are talking about the Arab Palestinians that took a solemn oath to further Jihad.

"Currently, the People of the West Bank and Gaza Strip are citizens of the State of Palestine."

Just as the non-whites were citizens of the Bantustans in South Africa. Good move. How far did it get the Boers?

(COMMENT)

The Arab Palestinian people represent a clear and present danger to the safety, security and sovereignty of the State of Israel and it citizenry. In the last seven decades, that Arab Palestinian has promoted violence and maintained the policy that "Jihad becomes the individual duty of every Moslem" and that "There is no solution for the Palestinian question except through Jihad."

It is what it is. Every single week we hear the voice of the Hostile Arab Palestinians attempt to provoke or encourage and threat to the peace, breach of the peace, or act of aggression.

Most Respectfully,
R

Well, the hostile European colonists went to Palestine to eliminate and/or evict the people living in Palestine, should the Christians and Muslims not try to regain their land and homes?

How about posting some evidence of your racist claims then freddy boy, as you seem to be ignoring these requests. As for their homes they had none or they would have produce title deeds by now

 

[Phoenall]

montelatici, et al,

Fortunately, that is an irrelevant question. We are not dealing with the racial issues of the Boers and South African politics. We are talking about the Arab Palestinians that took a solemn oath to further Jihad.

"Currently, the People of the West Bank and Gaza Strip are citizens of the State of Palestine."

Just as the non-whites were citizens of the Bantustans in South Africa. Good move. How far did it get the Boers?

(COMMENT)

The Arab Palestinian people represent a clear and present danger to the safety, security and sovereignty of the State of Israel and it citizenry. In the last seven decades, that Arab Palestinian has promoted violence and maintained the policy that "Jihad becomes the individual duty of every Moslem" and that "There is no solution for the Palestinian question except through Jihad."

It is what it is. Every single week we hear the voice of the Hostile Arab Palestinians attempt to provoke or encourage and threat to the peace, breach of the peace, or act of aggression.

Most Respectfully,
R

Well, the hostile European colonists went to Palestine to eliminate and/or evict the people living in Palestine, should the Christians and Muslims not try to regain their land and homes?

How about posting some evidence of your racist claims then freddy boy, as you seem to be ignoring these requests. As for their homes they had none or they would have produce title deeds by now

P F Tinmore, et al,

Certainly this is a very curious question to ask.

...the UNDPR is the only UN Division devoted to a single group of people...​

How many other groups of people are stateless with no rights?

Name some.

(REFERENCE)

Just to name a few of the most recent.

Dominican Republic to be 'Socially Cleaned' in two days
View attachment 42559
In two days about a quarter of a million people will be made stateless. They will have no homes, no passports, and no civil rights. There are several reasons for this, but the primary reason is racism. At issue is a ruling …
Daily Kos · 18 minutes ago

India, Bangladesh sign historic land boundary agreement, end 41-year-long misery of 50,000 stateless people
View attachment 42560
DHAKA: India and Bangladesh settled their 4,096-km long prickly land boundary dispute on Saturday. As Prime Minister Narendra Modi and Sheikh Hasina exchanged instruments of ratification of the land boundary …
Times of India · 6/7/2015

(COMMENT)

But this doesn't apply to any Palestinians ---- none.

Currently, the People of the West Bank and Gaza Strip are citizens of the State of Palestine. Declared Independence on 15 November 1988. These are not stateless people (means a person who is not considered as a national by any State under the operation of its law) with no rights. They have all the rights that any Palestinian of the the State has.

Currently, the Palestinians have declared "war" on Israel and part of it is occupied as a protective measure against hostile action. Currently, those areas that are occupied are administered by the Occupation Force and applying the protections of the Fourth Geneva Convention.

But otherwise, they are not stateless and not without rights. They have, thus far, they Palestinians have been belligerent negotiators, unable to come to terms with acceptable peace arrangements.

Most Respectfully,
R

"Currently, the People of the West Bank and Gaza Strip are citizens of the State of Palestine."

Just as the non-whites were citizens of the Bantustans in South Africa. Good move. How far did it get the Boers?

OFF TOPIC DEFLECTION AGAIN stop doing this spam all the time or you will be reported.

 

[P F Tinmore]

I see little point in this thread any more.
Israel has now been proven innocent of all crimes.
Of course, Israeli law is now changing so all criminals will try themselves in court, only allowing the witnesses the defence want to appear.

The conviction rate for that country is expected to drop to zero by the middle of next week.

Israel is farce city. Every time it investigates itself it finds itself not guilty. Coincidence that. Look at Cast Lead.

1400 people killed the vast majority civilians including hundreds of children. Vast amounts of civilian infrastructure destroyed.

And the only one bounced was a low rank putz who stole a credit card.

And how does Palestine deal with its criminals when they murder innocent children, they elevate them to saints and give them a pension. Then name schools and streets after them so they are never forgotten.

And Israel makes their criminals prime ministers.

Do you have a point?

 

[toastman]

I see little point in this thread any more.
Israel has now been proven innocent of all crimes.
Of course, Israeli law is now changing so all criminals will try themselves in court, only allowing the witnesses the defence want to appear.

The conviction rate for that country is expected to drop to zero by the middle of next week.

Israel is farce city. Every time it investigates itself it finds itself not guilty. Coincidence that. Look at Cast Lead.

1400 people killed the vast majority civilians including hundreds of children. Vast amounts of civilian infrastructure destroyed.

And the only one bounced was a low rank putz who stole a credit card.

How many times have the Palestinians been investigated by their own government for crimes? How many have been convicted ?

Oh wait, Palestinians are glorified as heroes when they kill innocent Israelis. They cheer on the streets, hand out candy, hock their horns. Pure evil.

 

[Phoenall]

These are the nice Zionists are they not hostile maniacs?

You really are gullible aren't you freddy boy, did you see that they wore fake IDF uniforms and carried ak47's. Any thing that racially attacks the Jews you believe and then claim that it is propaganda when it is shown to be false

 

[P F Tinmore]

montelatici, et al,

Fortunately, that is an irrelevant question. We are not dealing with the racial issues of the Boers and South African politics. We are talking about the Arab Palestinians that took a solemn oath to further Jihad.

"Currently, the People of the West Bank and Gaza Strip are citizens of the State of Palestine."

Just as the non-whites were citizens of the Bantustans in South Africa. Good move. How far did it get the Boers?

(COMMENT)

The Arab Palestinian people represent a clear and present danger to the safety, security and sovereignty of the State of Israel and it citizenry. In the last seven decades, that Arab Palestinian has promoted violence and maintained the policy that "Jihad becomes the individual duty of every Moslem" and that "There is no solution for the Palestinian question except through Jihad."

It is what it is. Every single week we hear the voice of the Hostile Arab Palestinians attempt to provoke or encourage and threat to the peace, breach of the peace, or act of aggression.

Most Respectfully,
R

Well, the hostile European colonists went to Palestine to eliminate and/or evict the people living in Palestine, should the Christians and Muslims not try to regain their land and homes?

How about posting some evidence of your racist claims then freddy boy, as you seem to be ignoring these requests. As for their homes they had none or they would have produce title deeds by now

False argument.

A house is a piece of property.

A home is where people live.

They do not necessarily coincide.

 

[Phoenall]

I see little point in this thread any more.
Israel has now been proven innocent of all crimes.
Of course, Israeli law is now changing so all criminals will try themselves in court, only allowing the witnesses the defence want to appear.

The conviction rate for that country is expected to drop to zero by the middle of next week.

Israel is farce city. Every time it investigates itself it finds itself not guilty. Coincidence that. Look at Cast Lead.

1400 people killed the vast majority civilians including hundreds of children. Vast amounts of civilian infrastructure destroyed.

And the only one bounced was a low rank putz who stole a credit card.

And how does Palestine deal with its criminals when they murder innocent children, they elevate them to saints and give them a pension. Then name schools and streets after them so they are never forgotten.

And Israel makes their criminals prime ministers.

Do you have a point?

WELL YOIU MADE FOR ME AS THERE CANT BE MANY CRIMINALS IN ISRAEL AS THEY HAVE HAD ONLY A HANDFULL OF P.M's

 

[Phoenall]

montelatici, et al,

Fortunately, that is an irrelevant question. We are not dealing with the racial issues of the Boers and South African politics. We are talking about the Arab Palestinians that took a solemn oath to further Jihad.

"Currently, the People of the West Bank and Gaza Strip are citizens of the State of Palestine."

Just as the non-whites were citizens of the Bantustans in South Africa. Good move. How far did it get the Boers?

(COMMENT)

The Arab Palestinian people represent a clear and present danger to the safety, security and sovereignty of the State of Israel and it citizenry. In the last seven decades, that Arab Palestinian has promoted violence and maintained the policy that "Jihad becomes the individual duty of every Moslem" and that "There is no solution for the Palestinian question except through Jihad."

It is what it is. Every single week we hear the voice of the Hostile Arab Palestinians attempt to provoke or encourage and threat to the peace, breach of the peace, or act of aggression.

Most Respectfully,
R

Well, the hostile European colonists went to Palestine to eliminate and/or evict the people living in Palestine, should the Christians and Muslims not try to regain their land and homes?

How about posting some evidence of your racist claims then freddy boy, as you seem to be ignoring these requests. As for their homes they had none or they would have produce title deeds by now

False argument.

A house is a piece of property.

A home is where people live.

They do not necessarily coincide.

No a valid argument as it shows that they had no property and are lying about living there. How can some 20 year old claim to have lived in Israel prior to 1967 ?

 

[P F Tinmore]

P F Tinmore, et al,

Certainly this is a very curious question to ask.

...the UNDPR is the only UN Division devoted to a single group of people...​

How many other groups of people are stateless with no rights?

Name some.

(REFERENCE)

Just to name a few of the most recent.

Dominican Republic to be 'Socially Cleaned' in two days
View attachment 42559
In two days about a quarter of a million people will be made stateless. They will have no homes, no passports, and no civil rights. There are several reasons for this, but the primary reason is racism. At issue is a ruling …
Daily Kos · 18 minutes ago

India, Bangladesh sign historic land boundary agreement, end 41-year-long misery of 50,000 stateless people
View attachment 42560
DHAKA: India and Bangladesh settled their 4,096-km long prickly land boundary dispute on Saturday. As Prime Minister Narendra Modi and Sheikh Hasina exchanged instruments of ratification of the land boundary …
Times of India · 6/7/2015

(COMMENT)

But this doesn't apply to any Palestinians ---- none.

Currently, the People of the West Bank and Gaza Strip are citizens of the State of Palestine. Declared Independence on 15 November 1988. These are not stateless people (means a person who is not considered as a national by any State under the operation of its law) with no rights. They have all the rights that any Palestinian of the the State has.

Currently, the Palestinians have declared "war" on Israel and part of it is occupied as a protective measure against hostile action. Currently, those areas that are occupied are administered by the Occupation Force and applying the protections of the Fourth Geneva Convention.

But otherwise, they are not stateless and not without rights. Thus far --- the Palestinians have been belligerent negotiators, unable to come to terms with acceptable peace arrangements.

Most Respectfully,
R

Here is something to look at while I formulate my critique.

UNHCR - Draft Articles on Nationality of Natural Persons in relation to the Succession of States with commentaries 1999

 

[Slyhunter]

How about allow the Palestinians in if they can prove in an Israeli court of law that they owned that land.

 

[Phoenall]

P F Tinmore, et al,

Certainly this is a very curious question to ask.

...the UNDPR is the only UN Division devoted to a single group of people...​

How many other groups of people are stateless with no rights?

Name some.

(REFERENCE)

Just to name a few of the most recent.

Dominican Republic to be 'Socially Cleaned' in two days
View attachment 42559
In two days about a quarter of a million people will be made stateless. They will have no homes, no passports, and no civil rights. There are several reasons for this, but the primary reason is racism. At issue is a ruling …
Daily Kos · 18 minutes ago

India, Bangladesh sign historic land boundary agreement, end 41-year-long misery of 50,000 stateless people
View attachment 42560
DHAKA: India and Bangladesh settled their 4,096-km long prickly land boundary dispute on Saturday. As Prime Minister Narendra Modi and Sheikh Hasina exchanged instruments of ratification of the land boundary …
Times of India · 6/7/2015

(COMMENT)

But this doesn't apply to any Palestinians ---- none.

Currently, the People of the West Bank and Gaza Strip are citizens of the State of Palestine. Declared Independence on 15 November 1988. These are not stateless people (means a person who is not considered as a national by any State under the operation of its law) with no rights. They have all the rights that any Palestinian of the the State has.

Currently, the Palestinians have declared "war" on Israel and part of it is occupied as a protective measure against hostile action. Currently, those areas that are occupied are administered by the Occupation Force and applying the protections of the Fourth Geneva Convention.

But otherwise, they are not stateless and not without rights. Thus far --- the Palestinians have been belligerent negotiators, unable to come to terms with acceptable peace arrangements.

Most Respectfully,
R

Here is something to look at while I formulate my critique.

UNHCR - Draft Articles on Nationality of Natural Persons in relation to the Succession of States with commentaries 1999

Only applies after 1999, you cant use 1999 treaties retrospectively.

 

[Phoenall]

How about allow the Palestinians in if they can prove in an Israeli court of law that they owned that land.

Fine by me, and then they need to sign papers saying they will stop being belligerent towards Israel or face summary eviction.