Zone1 Why Do Leftists Ignore the 10/7 Hamas Attack on Israel?

[DonGlock26]

Don, again stop being the stupidest version of yourself.

Post at link.

 

[Anathema]

WTH? “Her place in society”?

You are obviously a Muslim.

Nope. I despise ALL forms of organized religion. What I AM is a Traditionalist and an individual who believes that most of our current issues could be solved by returning to the cultural (not religious) ideals and values of the individuals who founded this country 250 years ago.

 

[DonGlock26]

Nope. I despise ALL forms of organized religion. What I AM is a Traditionalist and an individual who believes that most of our current issues could be solved by returning to the cultural (not religious) ideals and values of the individuals who founded this country 250 years ago.

They were largely religious men and Judeo-Christian ethics formed their culture and ideas.

 

[Anathema]

They were largely religious men and Judeo-Christian ethics formed their culture and ideas.

I believe that culture can be separated from religion. If not, then all individuals who follow an organized religion should be exterminated as threats to a proper society.

 

[DonGlock26]

I believe that culture can be separated from religion. If not, then all individuals who follow an organized religion should be exterminated as threats to a proper society.

Your beliefs are not objective reality.

 

[Anathema]

Your beliefs are not objective reality.

They are the ONLY reality for me.

 

[hadit]

On October 7th, 2023, Hamas launched a massive ground assault on Israeli military installations and civilian neighborhoods.
367+ IDF soldiers were killed. 828+ Israeli civilians were murdered by the Palestinians in cold blood with small arms and arson. The assault was so large that it could be easily seen from space. 251 Israelis were captured and taken into captivity with many to be later murdered, starved, and/or sexually assaulted.


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October 7 attacks - Wikipedia

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Why does the Left ignore this, and only complain about the IDF counter-attacks in Gaza?


By comparison, the Pearl Harbor attack left 2335 US servicemembers and 68 US civilians killed.
The US went on to firebomb Japanese cities and dropped two nuclear weapons on Japan in retaliation.
The US also bombed German and Italian cities, and they never attacked the US mainland in any serious way.


Imagine if, the 10/7 attack was launched on Manhattan. What would the United States' reaction have been?

That was something I raised when the attack happened. If Mexico, for example, was to cross the southern border and massacre Texas citizens in a border town in the middle of the night, the same now excoriating Israel for acting in defense would have been screaming bloody murder and demanding the US invade and crush Mexico, especially if the Mexican government would refuse to step down.

 

[JoeB131]

No. It's the opposite. It is the abusive husband complaining look at what you did, when he finds himself sewn into a burning bed. Yes, it is true. Sometimes, cruelty can be so intense that justice requires striking back. The war will end when Palestinians stop killing Jews, NOT by complaining that "Jews kill us every time we launch an attack on them."

I think you misunderstood the metaphor. Israel, like the abusive husband in that story, holds the power, not Palestine/the abused wife.

Israel has created an apartheid state where Arabs are third-class citizens in their own country. (Non-European Jews are second-class citizens, but that's another discussion.)

the War will end when the Ashkenazim go back to Europe where they came from.

 

[JoeB131]

So you’re saying it didn’t happen?

I don't believe a damned thing that the Zionists say at this point.

 

[Mashmont]

I don't believe a damned thing that the Zionists say at this point.

And so you also disbelieve the UN Report from 2024 saying the same thing?

 

[JoeB131]

And so you also disbelieve the UN Report from 2024 saying the same thing?

Now you guys trust the UN?

How about when the UN says what Israel is doing is genocide?

 

[Mashmont]

Now you guys trust the UN?

How about when the UN says what Israel is doing is genocide?

So Israel and the UN report on the systematic rape of minors by Hamas, yet USMB "JoeB131" has different information that he alone has been able to gather.

I am blessed to be in a forum with so many geniuses.

 

[JoeB131]

So Israel and the UN report on the systematic rape of minors by Hamas, yet USMB "JoeB131" has different information that he alone has been able to gather.

I am blessed to be in a forum with so many geniuses.

Israel lies.

The UN wasn't there. They rely on what the Israelis tell them.

TRT World - October 7 'rape claims' debunked as Israeli propaganda unravels

Discredited stories and false first responder accounts — of beheaded babies, children hung from clotheslines, and infants put in ovens — were used to exaggerate events of October 7 and create backing for Israel's war on Gaza, AP reports.

www.trtworld.com

"It’s not that I invented a story," Otmazgin claimed The Associated Press in an interview, detailing the origins of his initial explosive allegation — one of two by ZAKA volunteers about sexual violence that turned out to be unfounded.

"I couldn't think of any other option" other than the teen having been sexually assaulted, he said. "At the end, it turned out to be different, so I corrected myself."

But it was too late.

Debunked accounts like Otmazgin's have encouraged skepticism and fuelled a highly charged debate about the scope of what occurred on October 7 — one that is still playing out on social media and in college campus protests.

Some allege the accounts of sexual assault were purposely concocted. ZAKA officials and others dispute that. Regardless, AP's examination of ZAKA's handling of the now debunked stories shows how information can be clouded and distorted in the chaos of the conflict.

As some of the first people on the scene, ZAKA volunteers offered testimony of what they saw that day. Those words have helped journalists, Israeli lawmakers and UN investigators paint a picture of what occurred on October 7. [ZAKA, a volunteer-based group, does not do forensic work. The organisation has been a fixture at Israeli disaster sites and scenes of attacks since it was founded in 1995. Its specific job is to collect bodies in keeping with Jewish law.]

Still, it took ZAKA months to acknowledge the accounts were wrong, allowing them to proliferate. And the fallout from the debunked accounts shows how the topic of sexual violence has been used to further political agendas.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Why did Israel ignore the warnings?
Why was Israel funding hamas?
Why is that ignored?

Bibi corruption trial was supposed to begin

Now two judges overseeing the case have been unalived

 

[Lisa558]

I believe that culture can be separated from religion. If not, then all individuals who follow an organized religion should be exterminated as threats to a proper society.

You apparently believe in a “culture” that hits a woman in public if she “forgets her place.”

 

[Lisa558]

That was something I raised when the attack happened. If Mexico, for example, was to cross the southern border and massacre Texas citizens in a border town in the middle of the night, the same now excoriating Israel for acting in defense would have been screaming bloody murder and demanding the US invade and crush Mexico, especially if the Mexican government would refuse to step down.

That’s the double standards that antisemites apply when Joos are involved.

And then they cry and scream that they’re not antisemitic when called on it. What they want is to continue to demonize Jews as they move forward with their anti-Jew campaign.

Pretty soon it will be so bad that a Democrat running for Congress will suggest putting all Americans who support the little Jewish state in concentration camps. Oh wait…..

 

[CrusaderFrank]

 

[Anathema]

You apparently believe in a “culture” that hits a woman in public if she “forgets her place.”

Yes I do. I will not deny that at all. Never have. Discipline is a vital part of a functioning society and public discipline especially so.

My brothers and I got public discipline throughout our childhood and deserved every bit of it. We learned our lessons from it too.

 

[Lisa558]

I don’t know which foreign antisemitic group got to you and has bribed you to demonize Jews, but whatever they’re paying you won’t make up for your upcoming time in Hell.

Read Faust.

 

[Lisa558]

Yes I do. I will not deny that at all. Never have. Discipline is a vital part of a functioning society and public discipline especially so.

My brothers and I got public discipline throughout our childhood and deserved every bit of it. We learned our lessons from it too.

You learned to be a screwed-up head case who thinks it’s acceptable to “discipline” (doll out physical assault) against women. And in public, too.