Idaho Republicans pass resolution urging Supreme Court to end marriage equality

[TheProgressivePatriot]

Really? Kids could walk to School without fear of being snatched by some perv. Kids could play outside without fear. Kids were taught Reading ,Writing ,and Arithmetic. And REAL American History. And they were NOT taught CRT ,Fagism ,and other rot. And Boys were BOYS. Girls were GIRLS. None of this Tranny bullshit. The Suburbs were a place where Regular Americans could escape the filth in the Cities. It was a much better time.

OMG!!!!

 

[martybegan]

Because they "felt like it" ?? You never read the opinion did you?

In the 2015 Supreme Court case Obergefell v. Hodges, Justice Anthony Kennedy wrote the majority opinion that legalized same-sex marriage in the United States. Kennedy's opinion was based on the Fourteenth Amendment's Due Process and Equal Protection Clauses.

Kennedy's reasoning

• The right to marry is a fundamental right that applies to everyone, regardless of sexual orientation
  
  
• The right to marry is protected by the Due Process Clause, which prohibits states from depriving people of life, liberty, or property without due process
  
  
• The right to marry is also protected by the Equal Protection Clause, which guarantees equal protection under the law
  
  
• The right to marry is an intimate choice that defines personal identity and beliefs
  
  
• The Constitution promises liberty to all, and that liberty includes the right to marry

But the issue is sex, not orientation.

No, it isn;t.

Only if they were equal, and they are not. Equal protection would work for being forced to recognize SSM licesnes from other States, not to issue them.

It's a government contract in the case of legal marriage. you can call yourself married all you want without that.

Open ended concept is open ended.

Of course you have probably read none of the dissents, right?

 

[martybegan]

I see your point but to me I don't care what others do. It's not my business nor does it threaten my traditional marriage. It's really a nothing burger.

It's the same shitty constitutional thinking that gave us Plessey, Roe and Chevron.

 

[martybegan]

You’re damned right I want acceptance for my LGBT allies. And to a great extent LGBT people have achieved that, with the notables exceptions of dinosaurs like you? You “tolerate “ a noisy neighbor or a sprained ankle …..Human being who are harming no one deserve more

We’re losing? Not really. We have had some setbacks because the bigots in the while house and state house are running amok over this trans issue. That is not losing. It is being bludgeoned and victimized. But as they say, every dog has his day.

So force people to not believe same sex relations are sinful?

Force Catholic priests to perform SSM ceremonies?

That's how you want to get acceptance?

You went too far, and now you are paying it?

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

So force people to not believe same sex relations are sinful?

Force Catholic priests to perform SSM ceremonies?

That's how you want to get acceptance?

You went too far, and now you are paying it?

So force people to not believe same sex relations are sinful?

Force people to believe?? No ! Only stupid people think that they can force someone to believe something without brain washing of some sort. I said that I want acceptance. I did not say that I can force acceptance

Force Catholic priests to perform SSM ceremonies?

Fuck no. More stupidity. I support religious exemptions to laws against discrimination . And think about this if you can….no gay couple would want to be married by someone who is hostile to their union…. So it’s a really stupid question.

That's how you want to get acceptance?

See above

You went too far, and now you are paying it?

How did we “go too far” ? You people are going to fay and in the end YOU will pay

 

[martybegan]

Force people to believe?? No ! Only stupid people think that they can force someone to believe something without brain washing of some sort. I said that I want acceptance. I did not say that I can force acceptance



Fuck no. More stupidity. I support religious exemptions to laws against discrimination . And think about this if you can….no gay couple would want to be married by someone who is hostile to their union…. So it’s a really stupid question.




See above






How did we “go too far” ? You people are going to fay and in the end YOU will pay

Acceptance means they accept the fact that SSM is somehow moral and just the same as regular marriage. That's acceptance. That's what you want to force on people.

I doubt you do, I think you know it would make you look like jackasses.

But they want to force photographers, bakers, and catering halls?

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

acceptance means they accept the fact that SSM is somehow moral and just the same as regular marriage. That's acceptance. That's what you want to force on people.

I doubt you do, I think you know it would make you look like jackasses.

SSM is in fact moral and just, and the same as heterosexual marriage. The fact that you don't think so is your problem and no one else's . But as I said, I am smart enough to know that I cant make anyone believe that . You , on the other hand , do not seem to be smart enough to understand that, My HOPE is that people will accept that fact, as most have, aside from a few of you dinosaurs who will soon be gone. You're the one looking like a jackass

 

[martybegan]

SSM is moral and just and the same as heterosexual marriage. The fact that you don't think so is your problem and no one else's . But as I said, I am smart enough to know that I cant make anyone believe that . You , on the other hand , do not seem to be smart enough to understand that, My HOPE is that people will accept that fact, as most have, aside from a few of you dinosaurs who will soon be gone. You're the one looking like a jackass

There are others who disagree. I don't see it as amoral, but it's not the same as heterosexual marriage.

No, you try but you have to lie about it. That's why you support forcing bakers and photographers to serve SSM ceremonies, why you support banning religious couples from adopting kids unless they pledge to follow the LGBTQ agenda even if they kids aren't LGBTQ, and you play word games with tolerance and acceptance, all the while supporting forced celebration in places like public schools.

 

[San Souci]

SSM is in fact moral and just, and the same as heterosexual marriage. The fact that you don't think so is your problem and no one else's . But as I said, I am smart enough to know that I cant make anyone believe that . You , on the other hand , do not seem to be smart enough to understand that, My HOPE is that people will accept that fact, as most have, aside from a few of you dinosaurs who will soon be gone. You're the one looking like a jackass

No. It normalizes perverted behavior.

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

There are others who disagree. I don't see it as amoral, but it's not the same as heterosexual marriage.

No, you try but you have to lie about it. That's why you support forcing bakers and photographers to serve SSM ceremonies, why you support banning religious couples from adopting kids unless they pledge to follow the LGBTQ agenda even if they kids aren't LGBTQ, and you play word games with tolerance and acceptance, all the while supporting forced celebration in places like public schools.

More codswallop! I lied? By saying that same sex marriage is equal to opposite sex marriage. That is an opinion that I’m entitled to. And as toy may know , it’s not just my opinion. It’s a SCOTUS opinion which I shared with you since you apparently never read it.

You’re making a lot of assumptions about what I believe based simply on the fact that I am liberal. However, the fact is you’re not wrong

As far a discrimination in places of public accommodation- I damn sure do demand that they adhere to laws against discrimination- and not humiliate people based on who that are. Or they can find another line of work

As far as adoption goes, people adopting must be of good moral character and that means -in part -not being bigots who will indoctrinate kids with their hate and attitudes of exclusion.And if the child in question is gay, bi or trans we are damn sure not going to be placing them with people who are not accepting of their identity. That is that word again ACCEPTING. No word games I say what I mean and I mean what I say. Deal with it. Acceptance and Tolerance are two different words with different meanings . Look them up.

I am also opposed to allowing adoption agencies to refuse to consider placing children with LGBT parents -especially if they receive public funds to operate. Otherwise I might be able to live with allowing a religious exemption . But the fact is they if they do exclude LGBT applicants, they are doing children in need of a home a tremendous disservice

“Forced celebration in school” ? Oh I know what you mean . Teaching children to be ACCEPTING of those who are different, and of themselves if they happen to be different. Teaching kids respect for others, helping them to develop emotional intelligence and a level of empathy that will allow then to succeed in a diverse world. And none of it is forced. Kids today are a lot more advanced that you are,

So there you have it . Like it or not -and I really don’t care- but that is who I am. No lies and no bullshit. I now I know exactly who and what you are . Having said that, I really don’t see any poingt in continuing this

No. It normalizes perverted behavior.

Stop whining!!!!

 

[San Souci]

More codswallop! I lied? By saying that same sex marriage is equal to opposite sex marriage. That is an opinion that I’m entitled to. And as toy may know , it’s not just my opinion. It’s a SCOTUS opinion which I shared with you since you apparently never read it.

You’re making a lot of assumptions about what I believe based simply on the fact that I am liberal. However, the fact is you’re not wrong

As far a discrimination in places of public accommodation- I damn sure do demand that they adhere to laws against discrimination- and not humiliate people based on who that are. Or they can find another line of work

As far as adoption goes, people adopting must be of good moral character and that means -in part -not being bigots who will indoctrinate kids with their hate and attitudes of exclusion.And if the child in question is gay, bi or trans we are damn sure not going to be placing them with people who are not accepting of their identity. That is that word again ACCEPTING. No word games I say what I mean and I mean what I say. Deal with it. Acceptance and Tolerance are two different words with different meanings . Look them up.

I am also opposed to allowing adoption agencies to refuse to consider placing children with LGBT parents -especially if they receive public funds to operate. Otherwise I might be able to live with allowing a religious exemption . But the fact is they if they do exclude LGBT applicants, they are doing children in need of a home a tremendous disservice

“Forced celebration in school” ? Oh I know what you mean . Teaching children to be ACCEPTING of those who are different, and of themselves if they happen to be different. Teaching kids respect for others, helping them to develop emotional intelligence and a level of empathy that will allow then to succeed in a diverse world. And none of it is forced. Kids today are a lot more advanced that you are,

So there you have it . Like it or not -and I really don’t care- but that is who I am. No lies and no bullshit. I now I know exactly who and what you are . Having said that, I really don’t see any poingt in continuing this

Stop whining!!!!

So you suppost Fagism. Figures.

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

So you suppost Fagism. Figures.

I support equality . I support diversity and inclusion . I support human rights. Deal with it . And please, please, please STOP making such a damned fool of yourself!

 

[San Souci]

I support equality . I support diversity and inclusion . I support human rights. Deal with it . And please, please, please STOP making such a damned fool of yourself!

I support Morality. Back to the Vice Squad.

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

I support Morality. Back to the Vice Squad.

I support morality also . Just not your warped sense of what morality is. Morality to me is treating others as you expect to be treated and not being judgmental and self rightious . It is recognizing that we are all valuable human beings who deserve respect and acceptance. I really have to wonder what happened to you in life that has made you so hateful and fearful of others who are different .. Do you realize that there are many Christians and even some Muslims-who think that you're a jerk?

By the way, I got a kick out of that "Fagism" comment. At least you're creative in inventing a new word. Ya think it might make it into Websters soon?

 

[San Souci]

I support morality also . Just not your warped sense of what morality is. Morality to me is treating others as you expect to be treated and not being judgmental and self rightious . It is recognizing that we are all valuable human beings who deserve respect and acceptance. I really have to wonder what happened to you in life that has made you so hateful and fearful of others who are different .. Do you realize that there are many Christians and even some Muslims-who think that you're a jerk?

By the way, I got a kick out of that "Fagism" comment. At least you're creative in inventing a new word. Ya think it might make it into Websters soon?

Turning the USA into another Sodom and Gomorrah is not moral.

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

Turning the USA into another Sodom and Gomorrah is not moral.

Give it a fucking rest already ,Kid.

 

[martybegan]

More codswallop! I lied? By saying that same sex marriage is equal to opposite sex marriage. That is an opinion that I’m entitled to. And as toy may know , it’s not just my opinion. It’s a SCOTUS opinion which I shared with you since you apparently never read it.

You’re making a lot of assumptions about what I believe based simply on the fact that I am liberal. However, the fact is you’re not wrong

As far a discrimination in places of public accommodation- I damn sure do demand that they adhere to laws against discrimination- and not humiliate people based on who that are. Or they can find another line of work

As far as adoption goes, people adopting must be of good moral character and that means -in part -not being bigots who will indoctrinate kids with their hate and attitudes of exclusion.And if the child in question is gay, bi or trans we are damn sure not going to be placing them with people who are not accepting of their identity. That is that word again ACCEPTING. No word games I say what I mean and I mean what I say. Deal with it. Acceptance and Tolerance are two different words with different meanings . Look them up.

I am also opposed to allowing adoption agencies to refuse to consider placing children with LGBT parents -especially if they receive public funds to operate. Otherwise I might be able to live with allowing a religious exemption . But the fact is they if they do exclude LGBT applicants, they are doing children in need of a home a tremendous disservice

“Forced celebration in school” ? Oh I know what you mean . Teaching children to be ACCEPTING of those who are different, and of themselves if they happen to be different. Teaching kids respect for others, helping them to develop emotional intelligence and a level of empathy that will allow then to succeed in a diverse world. And none of it is forced. Kids today are a lot more advanced that you are,

So there you have it . Like it or not -and I really don’t care- but that is who I am. No lies and no bullshit. I now I know exactly who and what you are . Having said that, I really don’t see any poingt in continuing this

Stop whining!!!!

No you lied about not wanting to go after clergy. You already want to go after lay people like the baker.

PA laws do not override free exercise.

The rest of your post, tl;dr.

 

[San Souci]

Give it a fucking rest already ,Kid.

See a Kid around here ,you can give him a Lewinski.

 

[hondo 50]

Your kids are next.

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

No you lied about not wanting to go after clergy. You already want to go after lay people like the baker.

Going after clergy? Where are you getting that shit from? Enforcing laws against discrimination in public accommodation . ? Damned right and I explained why.