ICE and dealing with illegal immigration is more important to Trump than stopping general crime in the U.S.

[Darlo kittu]

 

[berg80]

170B? I figured it would be way more than that, considering how bad biden fucked everything up.

ICE and dealing with illegal immigration is more important to Trump than stopping general crime in the U.S.​

I wonder if that's because the regime is committing so many crimes?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

I really think an IQ test needs to be implemented before people can vote. The only down side is that the Dems would be in power permanently, and that ain't a good thing for democracy.

What did the Bronx and Queens do with the $3 billion they saved by keeping Amazon's HQ2 out?

 

[Bitterhook]

Trump has approved more funding for illegal immigration than for combating general crime in the U.S.

AI Overview

The recent "One Big Beautiful Bill Act" passed under the second Trump administration allocates an unprecedented amount of over $170 billion to immigration enforcement and border security. This funding for U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) and Customs and Border Protection (CBP) is significantly higher than previous appropriations and eclipses funding for other law enforcement and humanitarian agencies.

Comparison to Other Appropriations

The Trump administration's ICE appropriations compare in the following ways:

• Compared to other federal law enforcement: The total funding for immigration enforcement (including ICE and CBP) exceeds the combined budgets for all other federal law enforcement functions, such as the FBI. ICE alone receives more money than any other single U.S. law enforcement agency.
• Compared to previous ICE budgets: The bill more than triples ICE's annual budget. ICE's annual funding increases from approximately $10.4 billion to an estimated $29.9 billion or more annually. The funding for detention operations has increased more than 400% since FY2019, with plans to expand capacity from around 41,500 people daily to at least 100,000.
• Compared to state and local police spending: The total $170 billion for immigration enforcement over four years is more than the annual expenditures on police by state and local governments across all 50 states and D.C. combined.
• Compared to military budgets: The total amount appropriated for immigration enforcement is larger than the annual military budget of almost every country in the world, except for the United States and China.
• Compared to humanitarian/adjudication systems: The massive increase in enforcement funding significantly outpaces funding for humanitarian protection and immigration courts. For example, the amount allocated to immigration detention is nearly three times more than the entire adjudication system for removal and asylum claims, contributing to massive case backlogs. The bill also caps the number of immigration judges while mandating the hiring of thousands of new ICE and CBP agents.
• Compared to labor enforcement: The funding for immigration enforcement is reportedly 80 times higher than that for labor standards enforcement.

This funding is intended to support an unprecedented mass deportation campaign, expand the border wall, and drastically increase the capacity of the immigrant detention system.

The problem with the above is the following:

AI Overview

Studies consistently indicate that U.S.-born citizens have a higher crime rate than undocumented immigrants. Undocumented immigrants have substantially lower crime rates across a range of felony offenses compared to native-born citizens.

Explanation

• Lower Crime Rates for Undocumented Immigrants: Multiple studies, particularly those using extensive data from the Texas Department of Public Safety (one of the few states that logs immigration status), found that undocumented immigrants commit crimes at a significantly lower rate than native-born Americans.
• Specific Crime Comparisons: Relative to undocumented immigrants, U.S.-born citizens are:
  • Over 2 times more likely to be arrested for violent crimes.
  • 2.5 times more likely to be arrested for drug crimes.
  • Over 4 times more likely to be arrested for property crimes.

Why is this happening? Isn't controlling all crime what our government should be funding, rather than just illegal immigration crime?

I guess it is all about Trump trying to make a statement that feeds his voters, rather than making a statement that he is fighting crime. He talks big but his stick is small.

So, you would rather federal agents execute local law enforcement, instead of executing federal law as defined within their job description. That's how federal agents end up grabbing grandma at the local school board meeting for questioning in regard to objections she may have with policies that are none of the federal government's business to start with.

 

[Luckyone]

So, you would rather federal agents execute local law enforcement, instead of executing federal law as defined within their job description. That's how federal agents end up grabbing grandma at the local school board meeting for questioning in regard to objections she may have with policies that are none of the federal government's business to start with.

What I am saying and ALWAYS have said is that "all extremes are bad". Trump has spent an inordinate amount on ICE (see OP). That is what I am talking about.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

What I am saying and ALWAYS have said is that "all extremes are bad". Trump has spent an inordinate amount on ICE (see OP). That is what I am talking about.

Biden let in an inordinate number of illegal aliens.

 

[Bitterhook]

What I am saying and ALWAYS have said is that "all extremes are bad". Trump has spent an inordinate amount on ICE (see OP). That is what I am talking about.

ICE is completely within the federal jurisdiction, and it handles what the federal government is supposed to be taking care of.

The US Constitution, including the 18 enumerated powers, don't actually say pick and choose to what degree you may want to enforce the laws in order to appease whatever political nonsense some nitwit might come up with, and that includes all parties and politicians.

 

[Lisa558]

What I am saying and ALWAYS have said is that "all extremes are bad". Trump has spent an inordinate amount on ICE (see OP). That is what I am talking about.

1) Biden incited an inordinate number of illegals into the country.

2) Trump ran on deporting Biden’s illegals - and he won,

 

[Darlo kittu]

1) Biden incited an inordinate number of illegals into the country.

2) Trump ran on deporting Biden’s illegals - and he won,

 

[Luckyone]

1) Biden incited an inordinate number of illegals into the country.

2) Trump ran on deporting Biden’s illegals - and he won,

True on both, but is deporting illegals going to help us pay our health cost bills, our purchasing groceries at an affordable price, our worrying about being stopped by cops to ask us if we are here legally, our safety that terrorists from other countries seeking to do the same here as Trump did in Venezuela is supported, that we do not have 100% disunity with our own neighbors because of different political views/opinions?

 

[Luckyone]

ICE is completely within the federal jurisdiction, and it handles what the federal government is supposed to be taking care of.

The US Constitution, including the 18 enumerated powers, don't actually say pick and choose to what degree you may want to enforce the laws in order to appease whatever political nonsense some nitwit might come up with, and that includes all parties and politicians.

Trump has gone OVERBOARD with this!

 

[Nostra]

So, where are all the gang bangers?

Instead they go after high school kids, dishwashers, landscapers and waiters.

Those pussies are to ******* terrified of going after real criminals.

Let me educate the perpetually stupid here.

Read this and weep, Dumbass.

This is where you whine and cry about the source after getting your ass handed to you.....

ICE arrests child rapists — including illegal immigrant who fled Brazil to avoid prison and was released into US

US Immigrations and Customs Enforcement (ICE) Boston announced on Wednesday the arrests of two illegal immigrants who have been charged with forcibly raping children in Massachusetts.

nypost.com

ICE Houston arrests more than 3,500 criminal illegal aliens, child predators and murderers during shutdown

ICE Houston arrested 3,593 criminal illegal aliens in Southeast Texas during the longest federal government shutdown in history (Oct. 1 – Nov. 12).

www.ice.gov

ICE arrests 2 ‘heinous criminal’ murder suspects simultaneously in Texas and Georgia

Honduran national William Machado confessed to 2022 murder after ICE arrest, while Mexican national Salvador Rodriguez-Mendoza faces multiple criminal charges.

www.foxnews.com

ICE Arrests Murderers, Pedophiles, and Rapists Over the Weekend | Homeland Security

DHS released the names and rap sheets of criminal illegal aliens arrested over the weekend—including murderers, pedophiles, and rapists.

www.dhs.gov

Heinous rapists arrested by ICE in Los Angeles

ICE, in collaboration with federal law enforcement partners, arrested Quoc Bo Pham and Dung Quoc Pham, both Vietnamese nationals, July 22 in Westminster.

www.ice.gov

ICE Nabs More Worst of Worst Including Child Predators, Murderers, and Rapists on Friday | Homeland Security

On September 5, ICE law enforcement officers across the country were working to deliver on President Trump’s mandate to make America safe again.

www.dhs.gov

 

[Nostra]

From the OP itself

The Trump administration's ICE appropriations compare in the following ways:

• Compared to other federal law enforcement: The total funding for immigration enforcement (including ICE and CBP) exceeds the combined budgets for all other federal law enforcement functions, such as the FBI. ICE alone receives more money than any other single U.S. law enforcement agency.

The fact your Vegetable Messiah imported millions of criminals makes that a necessity, Simp.

 

[Lisa558]

True on both, but is deporting illegals going to help us pay our health cost bills, our purchasing groceries at an affordable price, our worrying about being stopped by cops to ask us if we are here legally, our safety that terrorists from other countries seeking to do the same here as Trump did in Venezuela is supported, that we do not have 100% disunity with our own neighbors because of different political views/opinions?

Deporting illegals will improve the caliber of schools, will stop suppression of wages among the low-skilled Americans, halt the escalation of mediocre apartments, and stop the suppression of property values in areas where the illegals settle.

If it’s unity you want, why not come over to the right side and support the removal of illegal aliens doing us harm?

 

[Darlo kittu]

Deporting illegals will improve the caliber of schools, will stop suppression of wages among the low-skilled Americans, halt the escalation of mediocre apartments, and stop the suppression of property values in areas where the illegals settle.

If it’s unity you want, why not come over to the right side and support the removal of illegal aliens doing us harm?

Not to mention saving countless lives

Blue states like CA and NY have given CDL drivers licenses to mucking ILLEGALS who cannot speak English or read road signs

People have been killed by them

 

[Luckyone]

Deporting illegals will improve the caliber of schools, will stop suppression of wages among the low-skilled Americans, halt the escalation of mediocre apartments, and stop the suppression of property values in areas where the illegals settle.

If it’s unity you want, why not come over to the right side and support the removal of illegal aliens doing us harm?

How does it help YOU, or ME, or "most" Americans?

Health care costs, grocery prices, disunity among ourselves affects us ALL!

 

[Darlo kittu]

How does it help YOU, or ME, or "most" Americans?

Health care costs, grocery prices, disunity among ourselves affects us ALL!

How many innocent lives snuffed out will the pro illegals crowd are willing to ignore?

Unless it is one of theirs of course

 

[Darlo kittu]

Deporting illegals will improve the caliber of schools, will stop suppression of wages among the low-skilled Americans, halt the escalation of mediocre apartments, and stop the suppression of property values in areas where the illegals settle.

If it’s unity you want, why not come over to the right side and support the removal of illegal aliens doing us harm?

 

[Luckyone]

How many innocent lives snuffed out will the pro illegals crowd are willing to ignore?

Unless it is one of theirs of course

My OP is not about IGNORING anything but about managing priorities for all Americans as to what is at the top of the list and what is below it. In addition, my OP is about EXTREMES, which Trump always seems to take things to. All extremes are bad!

 

[Darlo kittu]

My OP is not about IGNORING anything but about managing priorities for all Americans as to what is at the top of the list and what is below it. In addition, my OP is about EXTREMES, which Trump always seems to take things to. All extremes are bad!

What is "extreme" about enforcement of existing immigration laws?

Being in the country illegally is a felony