ICE and dealing with illegal immigration is more important to Trump than stopping general crime in the U.S.

[Luckyone]

What is "extreme" about enforcement of existing immigration laws?

Being in the country illegally is a felony

Did you not read the OP?

This is the extreme I am talking about:

The recent "One Big Beautiful Bill Act" passed under the second Trump administration allocates an unprecedented amount of over $170 billion to immigration enforcement and border security.

While there was no raise in funding for other MORE important things to all Americans, such as health care, Food stamps, keeping grocery prices down, unity among Americans, etc.

 

[Darlo kittu]

Did you not read the OP?

This is the extreme I am talking about:

The recent "One Big Beautiful Bill Act" passed under the second Trump administration allocates an unprecedented amount of over $170 billion to immigration enforcement and border security.

While there was no raise in funding for other MORE important things to all Americans, such as health care, Food stamps, keeping grocery prices down, unity among Americans, etc.

Perhaps under Biden and Harris, over 12 MILLION MUCKING ILLEGALS poured in and we need to kick them the hell out of the country

With them put your so called more important issues will become much better. Illsuck taxpayers dry and slaughter innocent people

 

[Luckyone]

Perhaps under Biden and Harris, over 12 MILLION MUCKING ILLEGALS poured in and we need to kick them the hell out of the country

With them put your so called more important issues will become much better. Illsuck taxpayers dry and slaughter innocent people

You really are wearing blinders and know little about what works and doesn't work.

Your best bet is to continue doing this because you "alone" would be in the gutter.

 

[Hafar1014]

You really are wearing blinders and know little about what works and doesn't work.

Your best bet is to continue doing this because you "alone" would be in the gutter.

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There would be no problem if it wasnt for Biden

 

[Darlo kittu]

You really are wearing blinders and know little about what works and doesn't work.

Your best bet is to continue doing this because you "alone" would be in the gutter.

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[BS Filter]

Trump has approved more funding for illegal immigration than for combating general crime in the U.S.

AI Overview

The recent "One Big Beautiful Bill Act" passed under the second Trump administration allocates an unprecedented amount of over $170 billion to immigration enforcement and border security. This funding for U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) and Customs and Border Protection (CBP) is significantly higher than previous appropriations and eclipses funding for other law enforcement and humanitarian agencies.

Comparison to Other Appropriations

The Trump administration's ICE appropriations compare in the following ways:

• Compared to other federal law enforcement: The total funding for immigration enforcement (including ICE and CBP) exceeds the combined budgets for all other federal law enforcement functions, such as the FBI. ICE alone receives more money than any other single U.S. law enforcement agency.
• Compared to previous ICE budgets: The bill more than triples ICE's annual budget. ICE's annual funding increases from approximately $10.4 billion to an estimated $29.9 billion or more annually. The funding for detention operations has increased more than 400% since FY2019, with plans to expand capacity from around 41,500 people daily to at least 100,000.
• Compared to state and local police spending: The total $170 billion for immigration enforcement over four years is more than the annual expenditures on police by state and local governments across all 50 states and D.C. combined.
• Compared to military budgets: The total amount appropriated for immigration enforcement is larger than the annual military budget of almost every country in the world, except for the United States and China.
• Compared to humanitarian/adjudication systems: The massive increase in enforcement funding significantly outpaces funding for humanitarian protection and immigration courts. For example, the amount allocated to immigration detention is nearly three times more than the entire adjudication system for removal and asylum claims, contributing to massive case backlogs. The bill also caps the number of immigration judges while mandating the hiring of thousands of new ICE and CBP agents.
• Compared to labor enforcement: The funding for immigration enforcement is reportedly 80 times higher than that for labor standards enforcement.

This funding is intended to support an unprecedented mass deportation campaign, expand the border wall, and drastically increase the capacity of the immigrant detention system.

The problem with the above is the following:

AI Overview

Studies consistently indicate that U.S.-born citizens have a higher crime rate than undocumented immigrants. Undocumented immigrants have substantially lower crime rates across a range of felony offenses compared to native-born citizens.

Explanation

• Lower Crime Rates for Undocumented Immigrants: Multiple studies, particularly those using extensive data from the Texas Department of Public Safety (one of the few states that logs immigration status), found that undocumented immigrants commit crimes at a significantly lower rate than native-born Americans.
• Specific Crime Comparisons: Relative to undocumented immigrants, U.S.-born citizens are:
  • Over 2 times more likely to be arrested for violent crimes.
  • 2.5 times more likely to be arrested for drug crimes.
  • Over 4 times more likely to be arrested for property crimes.

Why is this happening? Isn't controlling all crime what our government should be funding, rather than just illegal immigration crime?

I guess it is all about Trump trying to make a statement that feeds his voters, rather than making a statement that he is fighting crime. He talks big but his stick is small.

You're uninformed. Crime is down everywhere.

 

[Rawley]

ICE and dealing with illegal immigration is more important to Trump than stopping general crime in the U.S.​

I wonder if that's because the regime is committing so many crimes?

Nah. It's because your Vegetable God threw open the borders and let in millions and millions of unvetted illegals.

 

[Hafar1014]

You're uninformed. Crime is down everywhere.

Not in democrat cities unless ICE deported many criminals

 

[justoffal]

Trump has approved more funding for illegal immigration than for combating general crime in the U.S.

AI Overview

The recent "One Big Beautiful Bill Act" passed under the second Trump administration allocates an unprecedented amount of over $170 billion to immigration enforcement and border security. This funding for U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) and Customs and Border Protection (CBP) is significantly higher than previous appropriations and eclipses funding for other law enforcement and humanitarian agencies.

Comparison to Other Appropriations

The Trump administration's ICE appropriations compare in the following ways:

• Compared to other federal law enforcement: The total funding for immigration enforcement (including ICE and CBP) exceeds the combined budgets for all other federal law enforcement functions, such as the FBI. ICE alone receives more money than any other single U.S. law enforcement agency.
• Compared to previous ICE budgets: The bill more than triples ICE's annual budget. ICE's annual funding increases from approximately $10.4 billion to an estimated $29.9 billion or more annually. The funding for detention operations has increased more than 400% since FY2019, with plans to expand capacity from around 41,500 people daily to at least 100,000.
• Compared to state and local police spending: The total $170 billion for immigration enforcement over four years is more than the annual expenditures on police by state and local governments across all 50 states and D.C. combined.
• Compared to military budgets: The total amount appropriated for immigration enforcement is larger than the annual military budget of almost every country in the world, except for the United States and China.
• Compared to humanitarian/adjudication systems: The massive increase in enforcement funding significantly outpaces funding for humanitarian protection and immigration courts. For example, the amount allocated to immigration detention is nearly three times more than the entire adjudication system for removal and asylum claims, contributing to massive case backlogs. The bill also caps the number of immigration judges while mandating the hiring of thousands of new ICE and CBP agents.
• Compared to labor enforcement: The funding for immigration enforcement is reportedly 80 times higher than that for labor standards enforcement.

This funding is intended to support an unprecedented mass deportation campaign, expand the border wall, and drastically increase the capacity of the immigrant detention system.

The problem with the above is the following:

AI Overview

Studies consistently indicate that U.S.-born citizens have a higher crime rate than undocumented immigrants. Undocumented immigrants have substantially lower crime rates across a range of felony offenses compared to native-born citizens.

Explanation

• Lower Crime Rates for Undocumented Immigrants: Multiple studies, particularly those using extensive data from the Texas Department of Public Safety (one of the few states that logs immigration status), found that undocumented immigrants commit crimes at a significantly lower rate than native-born Americans.
• Specific Crime Comparisons: Relative to undocumented immigrants, U.S.-born citizens are:
  • Over 2 times more likely to be arrested for violent crimes.
  • 2.5 times more likely to be arrested for drug crimes.
  • Over 4 times more likely to be arrested for property crimes.

Why is this happening? Isn't controlling all crime what our government should be funding, rather than just illegal immigration crime?

I guess it is all about Trump trying to make a statement that feeds his voters, rather than making a statement that he is fighting crime. He talks big but his stick is small.

Reducing illegal immigration will go a long way reducing crime in general.... In fact it might even be more efficient.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

True on both, but is deporting illegals going to help us pay our health cost bills, our purchasing groceries at an affordable price, our worrying about being stopped by cops to ask us if we are here legally, our safety that terrorists from other countries seeking to do the same here as Trump did in Venezuela is supported, that we do not have 100% disunity with our own neighbors because of different political views/opinions?

Yes.

 

[Lisa558]

Not to mention saving countless lives

Blue states like CA and NY have given CDL drivers licenses to mucking ILLEGALS who cannot speak English or read road signs

People have been killed by them

Yup. And welcome to the message board.

 

[Lisa558]

True on both, but is deporting illegals going to help us pay our health cost bills, our purchasing groceries at an affordable price, our worrying about being stopped by cops to ask us if we are here legally, our safety that terrorists from other countries seeking to do the same here as Trump did in Venezuela is supported, that we do not have 100% disunity with our own neighbors because of different political views/opinions?

All we need to have unity is for leftists to reverse their upside-down values.

 

[Luckyone]

All we need to have unity is for leftists to reverse their upside-down values.

I see now, One side gives all and the other side receives all. Is that the definition of compromise?

 

[Couchpotato]

Trump has approved more funding for illegal immigration than for combating general crime in the U.S.

AI Overview

The recent "One Big Beautiful Bill Act" passed under the second Trump administration allocates an unprecedented amount of over $170 billion to immigration enforcement and border security. This funding for U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) and Customs and Border Protection (CBP) is significantly higher than previous appropriations and eclipses funding for other law enforcement and humanitarian agencies.

Comparison to Other Appropriations

The Trump administration's ICE appropriations compare in the following ways:

• Compared to other federal law enforcement: The total funding for immigration enforcement (including ICE and CBP) exceeds the combined budgets for all other federal law enforcement functions, such as the FBI. ICE alone receives more money than any other single U.S. law enforcement agency.
• Compared to previous ICE budgets: The bill more than triples ICE's annual budget. ICE's annual funding increases from approximately $10.4 billion to an estimated $29.9 billion or more annually. The funding for detention operations has increased more than 400% since FY2019, with plans to expand capacity from around 41,500 people daily to at least 100,000.
• Compared to state and local police spending: The total $170 billion for immigration enforcement over four years is more than the annual expenditures on police by state and local governments across all 50 states and D.C. combined.
• Compared to military budgets: The total amount appropriated for immigration enforcement is larger than the annual military budget of almost every country in the world, except for the United States and China.
• Compared to humanitarian/adjudication systems: The massive increase in enforcement funding significantly outpaces funding for humanitarian protection and immigration courts. For example, the amount allocated to immigration detention is nearly three times more than the entire adjudication system for removal and asylum claims, contributing to massive case backlogs. The bill also caps the number of immigration judges while mandating the hiring of thousands of new ICE and CBP agents.
• Compared to labor enforcement: The funding for immigration enforcement is reportedly 80 times higher than that for labor standards enforcement.

This funding is intended to support an unprecedented mass deportation campaign, expand the border wall, and drastically increase the capacity of the immigrant detention system.

The problem with the above is the following:

AI Overview

Studies consistently indicate that U.S.-born citizens have a higher crime rate than undocumented immigrants. Undocumented immigrants have substantially lower crime rates across a range of felony offenses compared to native-born citizens.

Explanation

• Lower Crime Rates for Undocumented Immigrants: Multiple studies, particularly those using extensive data from the Texas Department of Public Safety (one of the few states that logs immigration status), found that undocumented immigrants commit crimes at a significantly lower rate than native-born Americans.
• Specific Crime Comparisons: Relative to undocumented immigrants, U.S.-born citizens are:
  • Over 2 times more likely to be arrested for violent crimes.
  • 2.5 times more likely to be arrested for drug crimes.
  • Over 4 times more likely to be arrested for property crimes.

Why is this happening? Isn't controlling all crime what our government should be funding, rather than just illegal immigration crime?

I guess it is all about Trump trying to make a statement that feeds his voters, rather than making a statement that he is fighting crime. He talks big but his stick is small.

Since when was the Federal Government responsible for state and local crime fighting?

 

[Lisa558]

I see now, One side gives all and the other side receives all. Is that the definition of compromise?

I’m pointing out that your idea of unity is for the conservatives to side with the left.

 

[Darlo kittu]

Reducing illegal immigration will go a long way reducing crime in general.... In fact it might even be more efficient.

I see now, One side gives all and the other side receives all. Is that the definition of compromise?

With Democrats they have always defined compromise as they get everything they want. Republicans get nothing they want. Democrats will permit a few Republicans to stand in the back row during the signing ceremony

 

[Luckyone]

I’m pointing out that your idea of unity is for the conservatives to side with the left.

No, "as as I have said repeatedly before", compromise is where each side receives some and gives some.

What is the Right giving or offering that the left would like to have?

 

[Luckyone]

With Democrats they have always defined compromise as they get everything they want. Republicans get nothing they want. Democrats will permit a few Republicans to stand in the back row during the signing ceremony

Prove your words

 

[Lisa558]

No, "as as I have said repeatedly before", compromise is where each side receives some and gives some.

What is the Right giving?

Are you kidding me? We always have at least a dozen Republicans cross over to vote with the Dems. The Dems vote in lockstep, and if they don’t….there’s hell to pay.

Just look at the health insurance COVID premium extensions. The Dems said it was only temporary. But they handed over such a fortune to pay the insurance premiums that the companies hiked their rates, and now nobody can afford health insurance unless someone else is subsidizing it. It was the GOP who caved, and now the insurance companies are free to charge $1000 a month for mediocre plans.

 

[Lisa558]

No, "as as I have said repeatedly before", compromise is where each side receives some and gives some.

What is the Right giving or offering that the left would like to have?

What is the Left giving?