ICE and dealing with illegal immigration is more important to Trump than stopping general crime in the U.S.

[Nuthin' Fancy]

Question.

Is Trump Derangement Syndrome covered under Obamacare?

No Trump's Delusional Sycophant illness is covered under Trumpcare.

It seems so.many unfortunate people have allowed this mental illness to advance to Stage 5.

Trump will take care of you......................

 

[Darlo kittu]

No Trump's Delusional Sycophant illness is covered under Trumpcare.

Trump will take care of you......................

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What happened to Obamacare? We were told it was the "Affordable Healthcare Act"

We were told it would fix our broken Healthcare system

Seems Dems were full.of it again and it has cost taxpayers dearly

 

[Dr Grump]

^^^ America's enemies are telling Americans what matters most to them. Keeping their illegals and fraud machines like fake day cares going.

If the illegals get deported and the fraud machines are shut down, Democrats lose all their power and money.

Democrats like Walz are desperate for a conflict to avoid justice for their fraud and treason.

Democrats = traitors

When your country finally goes into a hell hole to where it is heading since the Orange Buffoon took over, and you want to start apportioning blame, you first port of call should be the mirror.

 

[Dr Grump]

Deporting illegals does reduce crime as they are in prison at a rate more than citizens.

Misuse of Data Understates Illegal Immigrant Criminality

Activists and academics have been misusing data from the Texas DPS in studies claiming that illegal immigrants have relatively low crime rates.

cis.org

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AI Overview



Research consistently indicates that undocumented immigrants have
significantly lower crime and incarceration rates than native-born U.S. citizens. There is no data to support the notion that illegal immigrants cause a higher percentage of crime in the U.S..

Key Findings from Research

• Lower Crime Rates: Multiple studies have found that immigrants, including those who are undocumented, are less likely to commit crimes than U.S.-born citizens across a range of offenses, including violent crimes, property crimes, and drug crimes.
• Incarceration Data: Research from institutions like the Cato Institute and Stanford University shows that immigrants are consistently less likely to be incarcerated than U.S.-born individuals. For example, one 2020 study using Texas data found that undocumented immigrants had a criminal conviction rate 45% lower than native-born Texans.
• No Correlation: Analysis of data from 1980 to 2022 by the American Immigration Council revealed no statistically significant correlation between a growing immigrant population and higher crime rates; in fact, total U.S. crime rates declined significantly while the immigrant population share grew.
• Focus on Immigration Offenses: When non-U.S. citizens are sentenced in the federal system, the vast majority (nearly 90%) of prosecutions are for immigration-related violations, such as illegal entry or re-entry, rather than other serious crimes.

In summary, data from authoritative sources, including the National Institutes of Health and the Bureau of Justice Statistics, contradicts claims of a "migrant crime wave," showing instead that immigrants contribute less to U.S. crime rates than the native-born population.

 

[Darlo kittu]

Yeah right.

Are you aware being in the country illegally is a felony?

 

[Dr Grump]

Are you aware being in the country illegally is a felony?

Don't care. Chuck 'em out. I know the Deplorable loons are zeroing on that fact. They try and scare monger. By saying they are felons, they are insinuating is the they are murderers, drug suppliers and rapists. Hell, the Orange Buffoon said so himself. Actual, real stats, say if I was to visit America, I am in more danger from a native born subject than an immigrant - legal or illegal.

 

[Darlo kittu]

Don't care. Chuck 'em out. I know the Deplorable loons are zeroing on that fact. They try and scare monger. By saying they are felons, they are insinuating is the they are murderers, drug suppliers and rapists. Hell, the Orange Buffoon said so himself. Actual, real stats, say if I was to visit America, I am in more danger from a native born subject than an immigrant - legal or illegal.

 

[Darlo kittu]

Don't care. Chuck 'em out. I know the Deplorable loons are zeroing on that fact. They try and scare monger. By saying they are felons, they are insinuating is the they are murderers, drug suppliers and rapists. Hell, the Orange Buffoon said so himself. Actual, real stats, say if I was to visit America, I am in more danger from a native born subject than an immigrant - legal or illegal.

Yeah you obviously have not lost a love one

 

[Nuthin' Fancy]

What happened to Obamacare? We were told it was the "Affordable Healthcare Act"

Trump and his cult killed it.

We were told it would fix our broken Healthcare system

If everyone were on it, it would have.
That's how insurance works.

Seems Dems were full.of it again and it has cost taxpayers dearly

No, it hasn't.

It's going to cost a lot more, now.
All insurance is skyrocketing.

ACA health subsidies expire, prompting steep insurance ...​

WHYY
https://whyy.org › articles › aca-health-subsidies-expire...
Jan 1, 2026 — Some families grapple with insurance costs that are doubling, tripling or more.


The change affects a diverse cross-section of Americans who don’t get their health insurance from an employer and don’t qualify for Medicaid or Medicare — a group that includes many self-employed workers, small business owners, farmers and ranchers.


People will go back to using the emergency rooms for healthcare.

What is Trump's plan?

 

[Darlo kittu]

Trump and his cult killed it.

If everyone were on it, it would have.
That's how insurance works.

No, it hasn't.

It's going to cost a lot more, now.
All insurance is skyrocketing.

ACA health subsidies expire, prompting steep insurance ...​

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WHYY
https://whyy.org › articles › aca-health-subsidies-expire...
Jan 1, 2026 — Some families grapple with insurance costs that are doubling, tripling or more.


The change affects a diverse cross-section of Americans who don’t get their health insurance from an employer and don’t qualify for Medicaid or Medicare — a group that includes many self-employed workers, small business owners, farmers and ranchers.


People will go back to using the emergency rooms for healthcare.

What is Trump's plan?

Obamacare is still alive and Dems own this.

They voted ot onto law all on their own

They set it up.so a windfall goes to the insurance companies courtesy of taxpayers

Dems voted in the outrageous subsidies during COVID and Dems set the expiration date

Obamacare is noting more then a massive welfare program

 

[Dr Grump]

Yeah you obviously have not lost a love one

I didn't say they committed no crime. Hope those that do it, get what's coming to them./

• Incarceration Rates: A 2023 analysis by the Cato Institute using U.S. Census data estimated that illegal immigrants had an incarceration rate of 613 per 100,000, which is about half the rate of native-born Americans (1,221 per 100,000).

So they have half the rate. So your argument is that because 613 out of every 100,000 immigrants are incarcertated (and not all for violent offences), the other 99,387 should not be allowed in the country.

Darlo Kitty logic: All perpetrators who are convicted of rape are men - ergo, all men are rapists.

See how that works?

 

[Mac1958]

... talks big but his stick is small.

The one (1) thing that ties him to his base, as much as his juvenile trolling, is this ICE reality teevee show.

He'll never give it up. Without it, this all unravels, and he knows it.

 

[Darlo kittu]

I didn't say they committed no crime. Hope those that do it, get what's coming to them./

• Incarceration Rates: A 2023 analysis by the Cato Institute using U.S. Census data estimated that illegal immigrants had an incarceration rate of 613 per 100,000, which is about half the rate of native-born Americans (1,221 per 100,000).

So they have half the rate. So your argument is that because 613 out of every 100,000 immigrants are incarcertated (and not all for violent offences), the other 99,387 should not be allowed in the country.

Darlo Kitty logic: All perpetrators who are convicted of rape are men - ergo, all men are rapists.

See how that works?

Those stats are based on REPORTED crimes. Most illegals are released from custody and their crimes go unreported

 

[Dr Grump]

Those stats are based on REPORTED crimes. Most illegals are released from custody and their crimes go unreported

Link please

 

[Darlo kittu]

Link please

Look pal, everytime I see a story about an illegal murdering, raping, assaulting someone they have a rap sheet a mile long

You liberals are more pissed over Trump calling a woman piggy then you are a woman being set on fire on the subway

 

[Nuthin' Fancy]

Obamacare is still alive and Dems own this.

No, it isn't.

They voted ot onto law all on their own

Yes, it is.
It was ALL republicans that voted to repeal it

They set it up.so a windfall goes to the insurance companies courtesy of taxpayers

So.
Taxpayers support farmers and oil companies too.

Dems voted in the outrageous subsidies during COVID and Dems set the expiration date

Obamacare is noting more then a massive welfare program

So are tax cuts, aid to farmers, oil companies, charter schools, Israel and the defense contractors.

 

[Darlo kittu]

No, it isn't.

Yes, it is.
It was ALL republicans that voted to repeal it

So.
Taxpayers support farmers and oil companies too.

So are tax cuts, aid to farmers, oil companies, charter schools, Israel and the defense contractors.

OK so you duck, dodge, and hide real well

Now talk about Obamacare being a huge and expensive failure

 

[Darlo kittu]

OK so you duck, dodge, and hide real well

Now talk about Obamacare being a huge and expensive

No, it isn't.

Yes, it is.
It was ALL republicans that voted to repeal it

So.
Taxpayers support farmers and oil companies too.

So are tax cuts, aid to farmers, oil companies, charter schools, Israel and the defense contractors.

Oh AND YOU GOT SEVERAL TAX CUTS

 

[Dr Grump]

Look pal, everytime I see a story about an illegal murdering, raping, assaulting someone they have a rap sheet a mile long

You liberals are more pissed over Trump calling a woman piggy then you are a woman being set on fire on the subway

For a start I'm not a liberal. Socially, I lean more liberal. Economically definitely more conservative.
Pfftt, that's just jingoistic claptrap. Almost all people I know - both liberal and conservative - found what he said repugnant, and all of them would find a woman being set on fire much much worse that what he said.

And if the illegal has a rap sheet a mile long, throw them in prison. At the end of the day, it is far from the norm.
Also, just back to your under reported crime, that is only illegal-on-illegal crime because the victims don't want to be deported either.

And just to put my 663/100,000 stat in perspective, that 0.663 of illegals are incarcerated.

*Edit - oh, and you don't have a link. Why am I not surprised.

 

[Darlo kittu]

For a start I'm not a liberal. Socially, I lean more liberal. Economically definitely more conservative.
Pfftt, that's just jingoistic claptrap. Almost all people I know - both liberal and conservative - found what he said repugnant, and all of them would find a woman being set on fire much much worse that what he said.

And if the illegal has a rap sheet a mile long, throw them in prison. At the end of the day, it is far from the norm.
Also, just back to your under reported crime, that is only illegal-on-illegal crime because the victims don't want to be deported either.

And just to put my 663/100,000 stat in perspective, that 0.663 of illegals are incarcerated.

Well you have the arrogance and obnoxious attitude of a liberal

If they are in the country illegally they should be worried about being deported

I hope President Trump made illegals America's number one export