ICE and dealing with illegal immigration is more important to Trump than stopping general crime in the U.S.

[Nuthin' Fancy]

OK so you duck, dodge, and hide real well

That's you, not me.

Now talk about Obamacare being a huge and expensive failure

No, that's Trump are.
Going back to using the emergency room for healthcare is going to be a huge expensive failure.

Why the **** do you think Obamacare was passed 15 years ago?

 

[Dr Grump]

Yo

Well you have the arrogance and obnoxious attitude of a liberal

If they are in the country illegally they should be worried about being deported

I hope President Trump made illegals America's number one export

You call it arrogance. I call it well informed/well read and fact checked. Shrug...

You won't get any argument from me about deporting illegals. How they do it, well, that is another story...

 

[Dr Grump]

Why the **** do you think Obamacare was passed 15 years ago?

And the irony of all this - and something that the wingnuts don't get - is they are always the ones moaning about people wanting hand outs. Yet again, with the repealing of Obamacare, the rich get more and the poor suffer. Who's after the handouts again?

 

[Hafar1014]

Yeah right.
AI Overview



Research consistently indicates that undocumented immigrants have
significantly lower crime and incarceration rates than native-born U.S. citizens. There is no data to support the notion that illegal immigrants cause a higher percentage of crime in the U.S..

Key Findings from Research

• Lower Crime Rates: Multiple studies have found that immigrants, including those who are undocumented, are less likely to commit crimes than U.S.-born citizens across a range of offenses, including violent crimes, property crimes, and drug crimes.
• Incarceration Data: Research from institutions like the Cato Institute and Stanford University shows that immigrants are consistently less likely to be incarcerated than U.S.-born individuals. For example, one 2020 study using Texas data found that undocumented immigrants had a criminal conviction rate 45% lower than native-born Texans.
• No Correlation: Analysis of data from 1980 to 2022 by the American Immigration Council revealed no statistically significant correlation between a growing immigrant population and higher crime rates; in fact, total U.S. crime rates declined significantly while the immigrant population share grew.
• Focus on Immigration Offenses: When non-U.S. citizens are sentenced in the federal system, the vast majority (nearly 90%) of prosecutions are for immigration-related violations, such as illegal entry or re-entry, rather than other serious crimes.

In summary, data from authoritative sources, including the National Institutes of Health and the Bureau of Justice Statistics, contradicts claims of a "migrant crime wave," showing instead that immigrants contribute less to U.S. crime rates than the native-born population.

They increase crime as we saw in the democrat sanctuary cities.
Dont we have enough crime that we dont have to import more. How dumb is that
Illegals are in prison 5 times more then citizens.
Pro illegal immigration groups create fake studies

 

[Hafar1014]

That's you, not me.

No, that's Trump are.
Going back to using the emergency room for healthcare is going to be a huge expensive failure.

Why the **** do you think Obamacare was passed 15 years ago?

To bribe voters at the expense of the tax payers just like whats happening in Minn

 

[Darlo kittu]

That's you, not me.

No, that's Trump are.
Going back to using the emergency room for healthcare is going to be a huge expensive failure.

Why the **** do you think Obamacare was passed 15 years ago?

To take care if mucking ILLEGALS, and create a new welfare program to feed the already bloated government pig

We have more uninsured now then we did when Obamacare was created

 

[Darlo kittu]

Yo

You call it arrogance. I call it well informed/well read and fact checked. Shrug...

You won't get any argument from me about deporting illegals. How they do it, well, that is another story...

Arrogance makes a liberal. You have mastered it

 

[Dr Grump]

They increase crime as we saw in the democrat sanctuary cities.
Dont we have enough crime that we dont have to import more. How dumb is that
Illegals are in prison 5 times more then citizens.
Pro illegal immigration groups create fake studies

I'm thinking 'how dumb can Deplorables be?'...and each day you keep getting worse.
I really think an IQ test needs to be implemented before people can vote. The only down side is that the Dems would be in power permanently, and that ain't a good thing for democracy.
Don't get me wrong, the Dems have their fair share of dimwits, but in a two-horse race, the Deplorables have already crossed the finish line while the Dems are still rounding the bend.

 

[Dr Grump]

Arrogance makes a liberal. You have mastered it

And you've mastered the skill of offering nothing but empty rhetoric.

 

[Darlo kittu]

I'm thinking 'how dumb can Deplorables be?'...and each day you keep getting worse.
I really think an IQ test needs to be implemented before people can vote. The only down side is that the Dems would be in power permanently, and that ain't a good thing for democracy.
Don't get me wrong, the Dems have their fair share of dimwits, but in a two-horse race, the Deplorables have already crossed the finish line while the Dems are still rounding the bend.

 

[Nuthin' Fancy]

To bribe voters at the expense of the tax payers just like whats happening in Minn

Or from your dear leader......................

Trump wants more health savings accounts. A catch​

Fortune
https://fortune.com › 2025/12/05 › can-health-savings-...
Dec 5, 2025 — “Let's give power to the patient, not profit to the insurance company.” He has promised a deal can be struck in time for 2026 coverage.

Where does Trump's $2000 tariff rebate promise stand ...​

The Hill
https://thehill.com › homenews › nexstar_media_wire
Dec 23, 2025 — President Trump promised a payout for most Americans in a November Truth Social post. “It could come from tariff revenue, but in the end, we get ...

 

[Correll]

...
Why is this happening? Isn't controlling all crime what our government should be funding, rather than just illegal immigration crime?

No. Especially at a federal level. An invasion is more of a priority than general crime.

I guess it is all about Trump trying to make a statement that feeds his voters, rather than making a statement that he is fighting crime. He talks big but his stick is small.

Wow. You end with a dick joke? What a serious person you are...not.

 

[Nuthin' Fancy]

To take care if mucking ILLEGALS, and create a new welfare program to feed the already bloated government pig

Another lie,illeagals can't, nor could they ever get Obamacare.

We have more uninsured now then we did when Obamacare was created

You ain't seen nothing yet.

Where is the Trump plan?

Trump vows 'insurance for everybody' in replacing ...​

Yahoo News
https://news.yahoo.com › trump-vows-insurance-every...
Jan 15, 2017 — U.S. President-elect Donald Trump aims to replace Obamacare with a plan that would envisage "insurance for everybody," he said in
an interview with the Washington Post published on Sunday night.

Trump did not give the newspaper specifics about his proposals to replace Democratic President Barack Obama's signature health insurance law, but said the plan was nearly finished and he was ready to unveil it alongside the leaders of the Republican-controlled Congress. The Republican president-elect takes office on Friday.

"It’s very much formulated down to the final strokes. We haven’t put it in quite yet but we’re going to be doing it soon," Trump told the Post, adding he was waiting for his nominee for health and human services secretary, Tom Price, to be confirmed.





LOL.

 

[Darlo kittu]

To take care if mucking ILLEGALS, and create a new welfare program to feed the already bloated government pig

We have more uninsured now then we did when Obamacare was created

Eh, CA covers illegals under CALMD. In the first Dem primary, every single lib raised their hand when asked if illegals should get taxpayer paid health insurance

Like every Democrat handout it is a total failure

 

[Deplorable Yankee]

Trump has approved more funding for illegal immigration than for combating general crime in the U.S.

AI Overview

The recent "One Big Beautiful Bill Act" passed under the second Trump administration allocates an unprecedented amount of over $170 billion to immigration enforcement and border security. This funding for U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) and Customs and Border Protection (CBP) is significantly higher than previous appropriations and eclipses funding for other law enforcement and humanitarian agencies.

Comparison to Other Appropriations

The Trump administration's ICE appropriations compare in the following ways:

• Compared to other federal law enforcement: The total funding for immigration enforcement (including ICE and CBP) exceeds the combined budgets for all other federal law enforcement functions, such as the FBI. ICE alone receives more money than any other single U.S. law enforcement agency.
• Compared to previous ICE budgets: The bill more than triples ICE's annual budget. ICE's annual funding increases from approximately $10.4 billion to an estimated $29.9 billion or more annually. The funding for detention operations has increased more than 400% since FY2019, with plans to expand capacity from around 41,500 people daily to at least 100,000.
• Compared to state and local police spending: The total $170 billion for immigration enforcement over four years is more than the annual expenditures on police by state and local governments across all 50 states and D.C. combined.
• Compared to military budgets: The total amount appropriated for immigration enforcement is larger than the annual military budget of almost every country in the world, except for the United States and China.
• Compared to humanitarian/adjudication systems: The massive increase in enforcement funding significantly outpaces funding for humanitarian protection and immigration courts. For example, the amount allocated to immigration detention is nearly three times more than the entire adjudication system for removal and asylum claims, contributing to massive case backlogs. The bill also caps the number of immigration judges while mandating the hiring of thousands of new ICE and CBP agents.
• Compared to labor enforcement: The funding for immigration enforcement is reportedly 80 times higher than that for labor standards enforcement.

This funding is intended to support an unprecedented mass deportation campaign, expand the border wall, and drastically increase the capacity of the immigrant detention system.

The problem with the above is the following:

AI Overview

Studies consistently indicate that U.S.-born citizens have a higher crime rate than undocumented immigrants. Undocumented immigrants have substantially lower crime rates across a range of felony offenses compared to native-born citizens.

Explanation

• Lower Crime Rates for Undocumented Immigrants: Multiple studies, particularly those using extensive data from the Texas Department of Public Safety (one of the few states that logs immigration status), found that undocumented immigrants commit crimes at a significantly lower rate than native-born Americans.
• Specific Crime Comparisons: Relative to undocumented immigrants, U.S.-born citizens are:
  • Over 2 times more likely to be arrested for violent crimes.
  • 2.5 times more likely to be arrested for drug crimes.
  • Over 4 times more likely to be arrested for property crimes.

Why is this happening? Isn't controlling all crime what our government should be funding, rather than just illegal immigration crime?

I guess it is all about Trump trying to make a statement that feeds his voters, rather than making a statement that he is fighting crime. He talks big but his stick is small.

Now they're concerned about crime ...now
The people who are silent when repeat offenders who should be in jail kill somebody.

And why are so many repeat offenders out on the streets?

Left wing morons you wanna answer that ?or just lie as usual

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

ICE "statistics" from Botox Barbie?

LOL, Q-NUT.

I know, the stupid **** from post #11 is a stupid ****.

That was you.

DURR

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

They told you Hamas were terrorists

That Maduro was a dictator

That Putin was a madman

They told you Israel is a democracy

There is no genocide in Gaza

They told you NATO is a defensive alliance

They told you socialism didn’t work

They told you China is the biggest threat to the world

Now people are surprised our government is openly lying about a video of them murdering an American? Did you think this would be were they drew the line?

Americans accepting a ton of small convenient lies is what allowed the ruling class to completely distort reality despite what your eyes see. -Nick Cruse

Da comrade!

DURR

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

When your country finally goes into a hell hole to where it is heading since the Orange Buffoon took over, and you want to start apportioning blame, you first port of call should be the mirror.

My mirror didn't let millions of illegals waltz into the country from 2021-2025.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Yeah right.
AI Overview



Research consistently indicates that undocumented immigrants have
significantly lower crime and incarceration rates than native-born U.S. citizens. There is no data to support the notion that illegal immigrants cause a higher percentage of crime in the U.S..

Key Findings from Research

• Lower Crime Rates: Multiple studies have found that immigrants, including those who are undocumented, are less likely to commit crimes than U.S.-born citizens across a range of offenses, including violent crimes, property crimes, and drug crimes.
• Incarceration Data: Research from institutions like the Cato Institute and Stanford University shows that immigrants are consistently less likely to be incarcerated than U.S.-born individuals. For example, one 2020 study using Texas data found that undocumented immigrants had a criminal conviction rate 45% lower than native-born Texans.
• No Correlation: Analysis of data from 1980 to 2022 by the American Immigration Council revealed no statistically significant correlation between a growing immigrant population and higher crime rates; in fact, total U.S. crime rates declined significantly while the immigrant population share grew.
• Focus on Immigration Offenses: When non-U.S. citizens are sentenced in the federal system, the vast majority (nearly 90%) of prosecutions are for immigration-related violations, such as illegal entry or re-entry, rather than other serious crimes.

In summary, data from authoritative sources, including the National Institutes of Health and the Bureau of Justice Statistics, contradicts claims of a "migrant crime wave," showing instead that immigrants contribute less to U.S. crime rates than the native-born population.

There is no data to support the notion that illegal immigrants cause a higher percentage of crime in the U.S..

Illegal entry, tax fraud and identity theft.

That's more crime per person than US born citizens.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

People will go back to using the emergency rooms for healthcare.

If Trump keeps deporting millions of illegal aliens, the ERs could work again.