ICE and dealing with illegal immigration is more important to Trump than stopping general crime in the U.S.

Deporting illegals does reduce crime as they are in prison at a rate more than citizens.
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Crime by Americans is at least twice higher than by illegal aliens. That is fact. Money should be spent more to combat general crime than for targeting illegal alien crime
 
Crime by Americans is at least twice higher than by illegal aliens. That is fact. Money should be spent more to combat general crime than for targeting illegal alien crime
Heres your mistake. Youre using total data when you have to use rates. The rate of illegal crime is higher as a rate of their group.

Democrats dont want to prosecute crime at all
 
Trump has approved more funding for illegal immigration than for combating general crime in the U.S.

AI Overview

The recent "One Big Beautiful Bill Act" passed under the second Trump administration allocates an unprecedented amount of over $170 billion to immigration enforcement and border security. This funding for U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) and Customs and Border Protection (CBP) is significantly higher than previous appropriations and eclipses funding for other law enforcement and humanitarian agencies.

Comparison to Other Appropriations

The Trump administration's ICE appropriations compare in the following ways:
  • Compared to other federal law enforcement: The total funding for immigration enforcement (including ICE and CBP) exceeds the combined budgets for all other federal law enforcement functions, such as the FBI. ICE alone receives more money than any other single U.S. law enforcement agency.
  • Compared to previous ICE budgets: The bill more than triples ICE's annual budget. ICE's annual funding increases from approximately $10.4 billion to an estimated $29.9 billion or more annually. The funding for detention operations has increased more than 400% since FY2019, with plans to expand capacity from around 41,500 people daily to at least 100,000.
  • Compared to state and local police spending: The total $170 billion for immigration enforcement over four years is more than the annual expenditures on police by state and local governments across all 50 states and D.C. combined.
  • Compared to military budgets: The total amount appropriated for immigration enforcement is larger than the annual military budget of almost every country in the world, except for the United States and China.
  • Compared to humanitarian/adjudication systems: The massive increase in enforcement funding significantly outpaces funding for humanitarian protection and immigration courts. For example, the amount allocated to immigration detention is nearly three times more than the entire adjudication system for removal and asylum claims, contributing to massive case backlogs. The bill also caps the number of immigration judges while mandating the hiring of thousands of new ICE and CBP agents.
  • Compared to labor enforcement: The funding for immigration enforcement is reportedly 80 times higher than that for labor standards enforcement.
This funding is intended to support an unprecedented mass deportation campaign, expand the border wall, and drastically increase the capacity of the immigrant detention system.

The problem with the above is the following:

AI Overview

Studies consistently indicate that U.S.-born citizens have a higher crime rate than undocumented immigrants. Undocumented immigrants have substantially lower crime rates across a range of felony offenses compared to native-born citizens.

Explanation
  • Lower Crime Rates for Undocumented Immigrants: Multiple studies, particularly those using extensive data from the Texas Department of Public Safety (one of the few states that logs immigration status), found that undocumented immigrants commit crimes at a significantly lower rate than native-born Americans.
  • Specific Crime Comparisons: Relative to undocumented immigrants, U.S.-born citizens are:
    • Over 2 times more likely to be arrested for violent crimes.
    • 2.5 times more likely to be arrested for drug crimes.
    • Over 4 times more likely to be arrested for property crimes.
Why is this happening? Isn't controlling all crime what our government should be funding, rather than just illegal immigration crime?

I guess it is all about Trump trying to make a statement that feeds his voters, rather than making a statement that he is fighting crime. He talks big but his stick is small.
Thanks for the laugh from the side who are always backing criminals.
 
Do you EVER clean out your mouth of all the bullshit that you spit out?
Democrat cities have violent criminals running free thanks to no bail defund police and sanctuary attracting illegal criminals. Then democrats do nothing about them
 
Trump has approved more funding for illegal immigration than for combating general crime in the U.S.
Blue states and cities have been calling for the defunding of police since 2020. You need to practice some consistency. You don't know what you want except -- ORANGE MAN BAD. SMFH.
 
Trump has approved more funding for illegal immigration than for combating general crime in the U.S.

AI Overview

The recent "One Big Beautiful Bill Act" passed under the second Trump administration allocates an unprecedented amount of over $170 billion to immigration enforcement and border security. This funding for U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) and Customs and Border Protection (CBP) is significantly higher than previous appropriations and eclipses funding for other law enforcement and humanitarian agencies.

Comparison to Other Appropriations

The Trump administration's ICE appropriations compare in the following ways:
  • Compared to other federal law enforcement: The total funding for immigration enforcement (including ICE and CBP) exceeds the combined budgets for all other federal law enforcement functions, such as the FBI. ICE alone receives more money than any other single U.S. law enforcement agency.
  • Compared to previous ICE budgets: The bill more than triples ICE's annual budget. ICE's annual funding increases from approximately $10.4 billion to an estimated $29.9 billion or more annually. The funding for detention operations has increased more than 400% since FY2019, with plans to expand capacity from around 41,500 people daily to at least 100,000.
  • Compared to state and local police spending: The total $170 billion for immigration enforcement over four years is more than the annual expenditures on police by state and local governments across all 50 states and D.C. combined.
  • Compared to military budgets: The total amount appropriated for immigration enforcement is larger than the annual military budget of almost every country in the world, except for the United States and China.
  • Compared to humanitarian/adjudication systems: The massive increase in enforcement funding significantly outpaces funding for humanitarian protection and immigration courts. For example, the amount allocated to immigration detention is nearly three times more than the entire adjudication system for removal and asylum claims, contributing to massive case backlogs. The bill also caps the number of immigration judges while mandating the hiring of thousands of new ICE and CBP agents.
  • Compared to labor enforcement: The funding for immigration enforcement is reportedly 80 times higher than that for labor standards enforcement.
This funding is intended to support an unprecedented mass deportation campaign, expand the border wall, and drastically increase the capacity of the immigrant detention system.

The problem with the above is the following:

AI Overview

Studies consistently indicate that U.S.-born citizens have a higher crime rate than undocumented immigrants. Undocumented immigrants have substantially lower crime rates across a range of felony offenses compared to native-born citizens.

Explanation
  • Lower Crime Rates for Undocumented Immigrants: Multiple studies, particularly those using extensive data from the Texas Department of Public Safety (one of the few states that logs immigration status), found that undocumented immigrants commit crimes at a significantly lower rate than native-born Americans.
  • Specific Crime Comparisons: Relative to undocumented immigrants, U.S.-born citizens are:
    • Over 2 times more likely to be arrested for violent crimes.
    • 2.5 times more likely to be arrested for drug crimes.
    • Over 4 times more likely to be arrested for property crimes.
Why is this happening? Isn't controlling all crime what our government should be funding, rather than just illegal immigration crime?

I guess it is all about Trump trying to make a statement that feeds his voters, rather than making a statement that he is fighting crime. He talks big but his stick is small.
Just make it up as you go luckyonce.
 
Compared to other federal law enforcement: The total funding for immigration enforcement (including ICE and CBP) exceeds the combined budgets for all other federal law enforcement functions, such as the FBI. ICE alone receives more money than any other single U.S. law enforcement agency.
And so it should until the illegal invaders of this nation are expelled. Are you advocating for the overthrow of this nation?
 
Making Everything but... a Big big deal, to avoid doing anything that actually helps the average working person
 
From the OP itself

The Trump administration's ICE appropriations compare in the following ways:
  • Compared to other federal law enforcement: The total funding for immigration enforcement (including ICE and CBP) exceeds the combined budgets for all other federal law enforcement functions, such as the FBI. ICE alone receives more money than any other single U.S. law enforcement agency.
The OP provides no link/URL to document what it presents as supposed facts.
IIRC, this violates rules of the forum.
Which means the thread likely should be deleted, and/or author of the OP reprimanded.

That is only part of the dis-information, mis-information, and "fake news" typical of this poster(poser).
 

Trump says he's deporting 'worst of the worst.' Data tells a ...

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AP News
https://apnews.com › article › fact-check-trump-immigr...
Jul 12, 2025 — Trump says he wants to deport 'the worst of the worst. ... they actually commit fewer crimes than native-born Americans.

The latest ICE statistics show that as of June 29, there were 57,861 people detained by ICE, 41,495 — 71.7% — of whom had no criminal convictions. That includes 14,318 people with pending criminal charges and 27,177 who are subject to immigration enforcement, but have no known criminal convictions or pending criminal charges.

Each detainee is assigned a threat level by ICE on a scale of 1 to 3, with one being the highest. Those without a criminal record are classified as having “no ICE threat level.” As of June 23, the latest data available, 84% of people detained at 201 facilities nationwide were not given a threat level. Another 7% had been graded as a level 1 threat, 4% were level 2 and 5% were level 3.
Entering this nation without legal permission and proper documentation and identification IS A CRIME !

Every illegal alien in this country is a criminal merely by fact of having broken the law entering here !

Even their children, whether accompanying the parents or born by the parents once here are technically criminals (most legal jurisdictions treat children as "property" of the parents, parents being held liable for the actions of their children.)

Time for you Leftist and traitors to respect the laws of this nation, or deport yourselves to another country.
 
Typical liberal, target Americans so we can leave the foreign criminals alone. Do they ever support our citizens over foreigners? Doesn’t look like it. Pathetic.
 
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Trump has approved more funding for illegal immigration than for combating general crime in the U.S.

AI Overview

The recent "One Big Beautiful Bill Act" passed under the second Trump administration allocates an unprecedented amount of over $170 billion to immigration enforcement and border security. This funding for U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) and Customs and Border Protection (CBP) is significantly higher than previous appropriations and eclipses funding for other law enforcement and humanitarian agencies.

Comparison to Other Appropriations

The Trump administration's ICE appropriations compare in the following ways:
  • Compared to other federal law enforcement: The total funding for immigration enforcement (including ICE and CBP) exceeds the combined budgets for all other federal law enforcement functions, such as the FBI. ICE alone receives more money than any other single U.S. law enforcement agency.
  • Compared to previous ICE budgets: The bill more than triples ICE's annual budget. ICE's annual funding increases from approximately $10.4 billion to an estimated $29.9 billion or more annually. The funding for detention operations has increased more than 400% since FY2019, with plans to expand capacity from around 41,500 people daily to at least 100,000.
  • Compared to state and local police spending: The total $170 billion for immigration enforcement over four years is more than the annual expenditures on police by state and local governments across all 50 states and D.C. combined.
  • Compared to military budgets: The total amount appropriated for immigration enforcement is larger than the annual military budget of almost every country in the world, except for the United States and China.
  • Compared to humanitarian/adjudication systems: The massive increase in enforcement funding significantly outpaces funding for humanitarian protection and immigration courts. For example, the amount allocated to immigration detention is nearly three times more than the entire adjudication system for removal and asylum claims, contributing to massive case backlogs. The bill also caps the number of immigration judges while mandating the hiring of thousands of new ICE and CBP agents.
  • Compared to labor enforcement: The funding for immigration enforcement is reportedly 80 times higher than that for labor standards enforcement.
This funding is intended to support an unprecedented mass deportation campaign, expand the border wall, and drastically increase the capacity of the immigrant detention system.

The problem with the above is the following:

AI Overview

Studies consistently indicate that U.S.-born citizens have a higher crime rate than undocumented immigrants. Undocumented immigrants have substantially lower crime rates across a range of felony offenses compared to native-born citizens.

Explanation
  • Lower Crime Rates for Undocumented Immigrants: Multiple studies, particularly those using extensive data from the Texas Department of Public Safety (one of the few states that logs immigration status), found that undocumented immigrants commit crimes at a significantly lower rate than native-born Americans.
  • Specific Crime Comparisons: Relative to undocumented immigrants, U.S.-born citizens are:
    • Over 2 times more likely to be arrested for violent crimes.
    • 2.5 times more likely to be arrested for drug crimes.
    • Over 4 times more likely to be arrested for property crimes.
Why is this happening? Isn't controlling all crime what our government should be funding, rather than just illegal immigration crime?

I guess it is all about Trump trying to make a statement that feeds his voters, rather than making a statement that he is fighting crime. He talks big but his stick is small.

Trump has approved more funding for illegal immigration than for combating general crime in the U.S.

As he should.

"General crime" is a state and local issue you moron.

Studies consistently indicate that U.S.-born citizens have a higher crime rate than undocumented immigrants.

Only lying leftards like you believe those BS studies.

Isn't controlling all crime what our government should be funding,

The state and local savings from massive deportations should definitely be used to control crime.
 

Trump says he's deporting 'worst of the worst.' Data tells a ...

View attachment 1202968
AP News
https://apnews.com › article › fact-check-trump-immigr...
Jul 12, 2025 — Trump says he wants to deport 'the worst of the worst. ... they actually commit fewer crimes than native-born Americans.

The latest ICE statistics show that as of June 29, there were 57,861 people detained by ICE, 41,495 — 71.7% — of whom had no criminal convictions. That includes 14,318 people with pending criminal charges and 27,177 who are subject to immigration enforcement, but have no known criminal convictions or pending criminal charges.

Each detainee is assigned a threat level by ICE on a scale of 1 to 3, with one being the highest. Those without a criminal record are classified as having “no ICE threat level.” As of June 23, the latest data available, 84% of people detained at 201 facilities nationwide were not given a threat level. Another 7% had been graded as a level 1 threat, 4% were level 2 and 5% were level 3.

they actually commit fewer crimes than native-born Americans.

Liar.

The latest ICE statistics show that as of June 29, there were 57,861 people detained by ICE, 41,495 — 71.7% — of whom had no criminal convictions.

Why charge them with illegal entry, tax fraud and identity theft and then convict them when we can just deport them?
 
From the OP itself

The Trump administration's ICE appropriations compare in the following ways:
  • Compared to other federal law enforcement: The total funding for immigration enforcement (including ICE and CBP) exceeds the combined budgets for all other federal law enforcement functions, such as the FBI. ICE alone receives more money than any other single U.S. law enforcement agency.

Immigration is hunting 10s of millions of illegals, the FBI is only hunting thousands of criminals.
 
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