I will not Bow!

[GibsonSG]

Oh boy, so now you are playing the terrorist card.

Nice deflection.

Btw, how is calling out terrorists for who they are playing the 'terrorist card'

Its as if you are getting offended that we are calling your buddies terrorists lol.

"Terrorist" is third grade, political name calling.

The Palestinians do not fit the definition of terrorists.

There's no such country as Palestine, so no such thing as Palestinians. Just more Arab scum.

 

[toastman]

Oh boy, so now you are playing the terrorist card.

Nice deflection.

Btw, how is calling out terrorists for who they are playing the 'terrorist card'

Its as if you are getting offended that we are calling your buddies terrorists lol.

"Terrorist" is third grade, political name calling.

The Palestinians do not fit the definition of terrorists.

Just because you consider it name calling, doesnt make it so.

And yes , many Palestinians do fit that category. We already know you do t consider what many of them have do be terrorism, but it's not up to you to decide.
Hamas and other Islamic groups have commited terrorist acts by attacking people in Israel without distinguishing between civilian and mitary targets and not trying to avoid civilian targets in order to achieve their political goals.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Nice deflection.

Btw, how is calling out terrorists for who they are playing the 'terrorist card'

Its as if you are getting offended that we are calling your buddies terrorists lol.

"Terrorist" is third grade, political name calling.

The Palestinians do not fit the definition of terrorists.

Just because you consider it name calling, doesnt make it so.

And yes , many Palestinians do fit that category. We already know you do t consider what many of them have do be terrorism, but it's not up to you to decide.
Hamas and other Islamic groups have commited terrorist acts by attacking people in Israel without distinguishing between civilian and mitary targets and not trying to avoid civilian targets in order to achieve their political goals.

OK, you have said it now prove it.

 

[Hossfly]

Sabotage operations are lawful combat activities provided they are
carried out by lawful combatants and against legitimate military targets.

http://www.icrc.org/eng/assets/files/other/law9_final.pdf

And as you stated yesterday the P.A. has no standing army, so the attacks are illegal terrorism

Oh boy, so now you are playing the terrorist card.

Tinmore, anyone reading your posts for the first time would get the idea that you espouse sabotage, rockets, raids on settlers, car bombing, suicide bombing, and other atrocities as a means of "resistance". I agree that peace talks are a sham and that they are only held in order for the Arabs to make promises and agreements to appease the world only to renege everything. You must set your goal on peace and not "resistance". Or that "self-determination" bull crap.

 

[toastman]

Israeli soldiers and citizens are not considered "civilians."

Citizens of Israel are civilians. Just because Israel is the 'occupying power' in the West Bank, it has nothing to do with it.

Not true. Look it up.

Lol are you saying that when Germany occupied Poland, that the citizens of Germany were not civilians?

Youve brought up the link that shows that citizens of the occupying power are not civilians, but nothing that shows that citizens in Israel proper, where there is no occupation are not civilians. Just another lie to add to my list of bold claims you made that you were wrong about

 

[P F Tinmore]

And as you stated yesterday the P.A. has no standing army, so the attacks are illegal terrorism

Oh boy, so now you are playing the terrorist card.

Tinmore, anyone reading your posts for the first time would get the idea that you espouse sabotage, rockets, raids on settlers, car bombing, suicide bombing, and other atrocities as a means of "resistance". I agree that peace talks are a sham and that they are only held in order for the Arabs to make promises and agreements to appease the world only to renege everything. You must set your goal on peace and not "resistance". Or that "self-determination" bull crap.

It is Israel's war. Only Israel can stop it.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Citizens of Israel are civilians. Just because Israel is the 'occupying power' in the West Bank, it has nothing to do with it.

Not true. Look it up.

Lol are you saying that when Germany occupied Poland, that the citizens of Germany were not civilians?

Youve brought up the link that shows that citizens of the occupying power are not civilians, but nothing that shows that citizens in Israel proper, where there is no occupation are not civilians. Just another lie to add to my list of bold claims you made that you were wrong about

Israel is the occupying power. What difference does location make?

 

[toastman]

"Terrorist" is third grade, political name calling.

The Palestinians do not fit the definition of terrorists.

Just because you consider it name calling, doesnt make it so.

And yes , many Palestinians do fit that category. We already know you do t consider what many of them have do be terrorism, but it's not up to you to decide.
Hamas and other Islamic groups have commited terrorist acts by attacking people in Israel without distinguishing between civilian and mitary targets and not trying to avoid civilian targets in order to achieve their political goals.

OK, you have said it now prove it.

Ive already brought up the definition of who are terrorist many times with several links that I posted. But like always, when I bring up a link that clearly proves what I said, you still talk as if you're still right.

 

[GibsonSG]

Oh boy, so now you are playing the terrorist card.

Tinmore, anyone reading your posts for the first time would get the idea that you espouse sabotage, rockets, raids on settlers, car bombing, suicide bombing, and other atrocities as a means of "resistance". I agree that peace talks are a sham and that they are only held in order for the Arabs to make promises and agreements to appease the world only to renege everything. You must set your goal on peace and not "resistance". Or that "self-determination" bull crap.

It is Israel's war. Only Israel can stop it.

Arabs can surrender and end the war, just like Japan did.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Just because you consider it name calling, doesnt make it so.

And yes , many Palestinians do fit that category. We already know you do t consider what many of them have do be terrorism, but it's not up to you to decide.
Hamas and other Islamic groups have commited terrorist acts by attacking people in Israel without distinguishing between civilian and mitary targets and not trying to avoid civilian targets in order to achieve their political goals.

OK, you have said it now prove it.

Ive already brought up the definition of who are terrorist many times with several links that I posted. But like always, when I bring up a link that clearly proves what I said, you still talk as if you're still right.

You have brought up the name calling list, but nothing on matching the definition.

 

[toastman]

Not true. Look it up.

Lol are you saying that when Germany occupied Poland, that the citizens of Germany were not civilians?

Youve brought up the link that shows that citizens of the occupying power are not civilians, but nothing that shows that citizens in Israel proper, where there is no occupation are not civilians. Just another lie to add to my list of bold claims you made that you were wrong about

Israel is the occupying power. What difference does location make?

Im not sure if you re being serious or not. Also, you still havent proven it OR answered my question about Germany.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Tinmore, anyone reading your posts for the first time would get the idea that you espouse sabotage, rockets, raids on settlers, car bombing, suicide bombing, and other atrocities as a means of "resistance". I agree that peace talks are a sham and that they are only held in order for the Arabs to make promises and agreements to appease the world only to renege everything. You must set your goal on peace and not "resistance". Or that "self-determination" bull crap.

It is Israel's war. Only Israel can stop it.

Arabs can surrender and end the war, just like Japan did.

We could have surrendered too. It would have saved many lives.

 

[GibsonSG]

It is Israel's war. Only Israel can stop it.

Arabs can surrender and end the war, just like Japan did.

We could have surrendered too. It would have saved many lives.

So then Arabs should surrender and save lives. Since they have zero hope of winning anyways, why bother?

 

[P F Tinmore]

Lol are you saying that when Germany occupied Poland, that the citizens of Germany were not civilians?

Youve brought up the link that shows that citizens of the occupying power are not civilians, but nothing that shows that citizens in Israel proper, where there is no occupation are not civilians. Just another lie to add to my list of bold claims you made that you were wrong about

Israel is the occupying power. What difference does location make?

Im not sure if you re being serious or not. Also, you still havent proven it OR answered my question about Germany.

A lot of international law was written because of Germany.

 

[P F Tinmore]

And as you stated yesterday the P.A. has no standing army, so the attacks are illegal terrorism

Oh boy, so now you are playing the terrorist card.

Tinmore, anyone reading your posts for the first time would get the idea that you espouse sabotage, rockets, raids on settlers, car bombing, suicide bombing, and other atrocities as a means of "resistance". I agree that peace talks are a sham and that they are only held in order for the Arabs to make promises and agreements to appease the world only to renege everything. You must set your goal on peace and not "resistance". Or that "self-determination" bull crap.

I do. I fully support and promote BDS as a peaceful solution.

What are you doing for peace? What peace initiatives do you support?

 

[Hossfly]

Oh boy, so now you are playing the terrorist card.

Tinmore, anyone reading your posts for the first time would get the idea that you espouse sabotage, rockets, raids on settlers, car bombing, suicide bombing, and other atrocities as a means of "resistance". I agree that peace talks are a sham and that they are only held in order for the Arabs to make promises and agreements to appease the world only to renege everything. You must set your goal on peace and not "resistance". Or that "self-determination" bull crap.

I do. I fully support and promote BDS as a peaceful solution.

What are you doing for peace? What peace initiatives do you support?

There ya go again! BDS is not defensive.It's another provocation. I'm inclined to believe that you are just another two-bit tinhorn warmonger.

 

[Hossfly]

Tinmore, anyone reading your posts for the first time would get the idea that you espouse sabotage, rockets, raids on settlers, car bombing, suicide bombing, and other atrocities as a means of "resistance". I agree that peace talks are a sham and that they are only held in order for the Arabs to make promises and agreements to appease the world only to renege everything. You must set your goal on peace and not "resistance". Or that "self-determination" bull crap.

I do. I fully support and promote BDS as a peaceful solution.

What are you doing for peace? What peace initiatives do you support?

There ya go again! BDS is not defensive.It's another provocation. I'm inclined to believe that you are just another two-bit tinhorn warmonger.

Almost forgot. I support peace thru superior firepower. How 'bout them apples?

 

[RoccoR]

P F Tinmore, et al,

Please read this carefully.

P F Tinmore, et al,

So!

Remnants of the occupied country’s armed forces who
continue fighting are of course combatants and must be treated as such. If
captured, they are entitled to POW status and treatment as laid down in the
Third Geneva Convention. In particular, they cannot be tried for the simple
fact of taking part in hostilities.

http://www.icrc.org/eng/assets/files/other/law9_final.pdf

(COMMENT)

In 1967, the War was fought between Israel and the forces of Jordan (including all the West Bank) and Egypt (including all the Gaza Strip). The war is concluded. Peace treaties are signed, and there are no remnants. There was no such country as Palestine at the time.

As you so often say.... irrelevant!

Most Respectfully,
R

The west Bank was not Jordan.

The annexation of conquered territory is prohibited by international law.

http://www.icrc.org/eng/assets/files/other/law9_final.pdf

(OBSERVATION)

From the Government of the Hashemite Kingdom Website:

• (Jordan - History - The Tragedy of Palestine of the Two Banks)

As a result of the war, many Palestinian Arabs from the Jordanian-controlled areas found that union with Jordan was of vital importance to the preservation of Arab control over the “West Bank” territories which had not fallen to the Israelis. Consequently, in December 1948, a group of Palestinian leaders and notables from the West Bank convened a historic conference in Jericho, where they called for King Abdullah to take immediate steps to unite the two banks of the Jordan into a single state under his leadership.

On April 11, 1950, elections were held for a new Jordanian parliament in which the Palestinian Arabs of the West Bank were equally represented. Thirteen days later, Parliament unanimously approved a motion to unite the two banks of the Jordan River, constitutionally expanding the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan in order to safeguard what was left of the Arab territory of Palestine from further Zionist expansion.

The Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan now included nearly one and a half million people, more than half a million of whom were refugees evicted from Jewish-occupied Palestine. All automatically became citizens of Jordan, a right that had first been offered in December 1949 to all Palestinians who wished to claim it. Although the Arab League opposed this plan, and no other Arab government followed Jordan’s lead, the Hashemite Kingdom offered the possibility of normal life for many people who would have otherwise remained stateless refugees.

Mr. de BOISANGER (France) recalled the announcement in the press of a statement made to Parliament by the United Kingdom Government, defining the attitude adopted in London towards Israel and the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan following the decision taken by the Parliament of the latter country to annex the territory of Arab Palestine to the Hashemite Kingdom. He thought that although the full text of the statement by the United Kingdom Government’s spokesman was not yet to hand, the change in question would seem likely to encourage the other Arab States to negotiate with Israel.

SOURCE: A/AC.25/SR.148 28 April 1950

SOURCE: The Tragedy of Palestine

(COMMENT)

Notice that the decision included participation by the "Palestinian Arabs of the West Bank" in the decision to annex. This is called exercising the right of self-determination.

Arab Palestinian revisionist often like to omit the fact that they were part of the process and that they voted for annexation.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[P F Tinmore]

P F Tinmore, et al,

Please read this carefully.

P F Tinmore, et al,

So!


(COMMENT)

In 1967, the War was fought between Israel and the forces of Jordan (including all the West Bank) and Egypt (including all the Gaza Strip). The war is concluded. Peace treaties are signed, and there are no remnants. There was no such country as Palestine at the time.

As you so often say.... irrelevant!

Most Respectfully,
R

The west Bank was not Jordan.

(OBSERVATION)

From the Government of the Hashemite Kingdom Website:

• (Jordan - History - The Tragedy of Palestine of the Two Banks)

As a result of the war, many Palestinian Arabs from the Jordanian-controlled areas found that union with Jordan was of vital importance to the preservation of Arab control over the “West Bank” territories which had not fallen to the Israelis. Consequently, in December 1948, a group of Palestinian leaders and notables from the West Bank convened a historic conference in Jericho, where they called for King Abdullah to take immediate steps to unite the two banks of the Jordan into a single state under his leadership.

On April 11, 1950, elections were held for a new Jordanian parliament in which the Palestinian Arabs of the West Bank were equally represented. Thirteen days later, Parliament unanimously approved a motion to unite the two banks of the Jordan River, constitutionally expanding the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan in order to safeguard what was left of the Arab territory of Palestine from further Zionist expansion.

The Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan now included nearly one and a half million people, more than half a million of whom were refugees evicted from Jewish-occupied Palestine. All automatically became citizens of Jordan, a right that had first been offered in December 1949 to all Palestinians who wished to claim it. Although the Arab League opposed this plan, and no other Arab government followed Jordan’s lead, the Hashemite Kingdom offered the possibility of normal life for many people who would have otherwise remained stateless refugees.

Mr. de BOISANGER (France) recalled the announcement in the press of a statement made to Parliament by the United Kingdom Government, defining the attitude adopted in London towards Israel and the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan following the decision taken by the Parliament of the latter country to annex the territory of Arab Palestine to the Hashemite Kingdom. He thought that although the full text of the statement by the United Kingdom Government’s spokesman was not yet to hand, the change in question would seem likely to encourage the other Arab States to negotiate with Israel.

SOURCE: A/AC.25/SR.148 28 April 1950

SOURCE: The Tragedy of Palestine

(COMMENT)

Notice that the decision included participation by the "Palestinian Arabs of the West Bank" in the decision to annex. This is called exercising the right of self-determination.

Arab Palestinian revisionist often like to omit the fact that they were part of the process and that they voted for annexation.

Most Respectfully,
R

I think you need to read further. Nobody in the world, except Britain and Pakistan (???), recognized this annexation.

This begs a question. If this land was Jordan's and it was conquered by Israel in 1967, why is it called "occupied Palestinian territory?"

 

[toastman]

Israel is the occupying power. What difference does location make?

Im not sure if you re being serious or not. Also, you still havent proven it OR answered my question about Germany.

A lot of international law was written because of Germany.

Nice duck.