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Not true. Look it up.




So in effect you are saying that new born Israeli children are valid targets for the Palestinians, and that the Palestinians can use illegal weapons to target Israeli children.

Sums up your evil mind perfectly and shows that you support genocide and mass murder in the name of islam

Tinmore is not a Muslim, but he doesn't realize that he's a useful tool for them. Not too bright.

I don't view children as legitimate targets and the Palestinians do not either. I don't recall any Palestinian attack that targeted children.

Children are the responsibility of their parents. They should not have them in Israel's war zone.
 
I think you need to read further. Nobody in the world, except Britain and Pakistan (???), recognized this annexation.

This begs a question. If this land was Jordan's and it was conquered by Israel in 1967, why is it called "occupied Palestinian territory?"

If the land was Jordan's and they don't seem to be asking for it back, why should anyone give to the Pals? Are they claiming the land as Jordanians? Apparently not, so wassup?

In 1988, Jordan renounced all claims to the West Bank (except for the Temple Mount).
 
So in effect you are saying that new born Israeli children are valid targets for the Palestinians, and that the Palestinians can use illegal weapons to target Israeli children.

Sums up your evil mind perfectly and shows that you support genocide and mass murder in the name of islam

Tinmore is not a Muslim, but he doesn't realize that he's a useful tool for them. Not too bright.

I don't view children as legitimate targets and the Palestinians do not either. I don't recall any Palestinian attack that targeted children.

Children are the responsibility of their parents. They should not have them in Israel's war zone.

Does blowing up busses count in your sharia-loving world?
 
Oh boy, so now you are playing the terrorist card. :cuckoo:
Tinmore, anyone reading your posts for the first time would get the idea that you espouse sabotage, rockets, raids on settlers, car bombing, suicide bombing, and other atrocities as a means of "resistance". I agree that peace talks are a sham and that they are only held in order for the Arabs to make promises and agreements to appease the world only to renege everything. You must set your goal on peace and not "resistance". Or that "self-determination" bull crap.

It is Israel's war. Only Israel can stop it.



So when did Israel declare war on islam and Palestine ?

provide a link from a credible source that details the declaration of war.

My link is the UN archives were the arab league declares war on the Jews on behalf of Palestine and that it has never been fully rescinded


So it is the Palestinians war and only the Palestinians can stop it.............
 
Nice deflection.

Btw, how is calling out terrorists for who they are playing the 'terrorist card'

Its as if you are getting offended that we are calling your buddies terrorists lol.

"Terrorist" is third grade, political name calling.

The Palestinians do not fit the definition of terrorists.

In what way don't they fit the definition of terrorist, as stated here by the UN

Criminal acts intended or calculated to provoke a state of terror in the general public, a group of persons or particular persons for political purposes are in any circumstance unjustifiable, whatever the considerations of a political, philosophical, ideological, racial, ethnic, religious or any other nature that may be invoked to justify them

They don't mention self defense.
 
"Terrorist" is third grade, political name calling.

The Palestinians do not fit the definition of terrorists.

In what way don't they fit the definition of terrorist, as stated here by the UN

Criminal acts intended or calculated to provoke a state of terror in the general public, a group of persons or particular persons for political purposes are in any circumstance unjustifiable, whatever the considerations of a political, philosophical, ideological, racial, ethnic, religious or any other nature that may be invoked to justify them

They don't mention self defense.

Israel hasn't attacked them first in like, forever. Get a grip, dude.
 
Tinmore, anyone reading your posts for the first time would get the idea that you espouse sabotage, rockets, raids on settlers, car bombing, suicide bombing, and other atrocities as a means of "resistance". I agree that peace talks are a sham and that they are only held in order for the Arabs to make promises and agreements to appease the world only to renege everything. You must set your goal on peace and not "resistance". Or that "self-determination" bull crap.

It is Israel's war. Only Israel can stop it.



So when did Israel declare war on islam and Palestine ?

provide a link from a credible source that details the declaration of war.

My link is the UN archives were the arab league declares war on the Jews on behalf of Palestine and that it has never been fully rescinded


So it is the Palestinians war and only the Palestinians can stop it.............

And the Palestinians started the war when they went to Europe and attacked the Zionists.

Oh, wait...
 
Not true. Look it up.

Lol are you saying that when Germany occupied Poland, that the citizens of Germany were not civilians?

Youve brought up the link that shows that citizens of the occupying power are not civilians, but nothing that shows that citizens in Israel proper, where there is no occupation are not civilians. Just another lie to add to my list of bold claims you made that you were wrong about

Israel is the occupying power. What difference does location make?




A lot actually as it is against International Law to wage war on civilians, just as it is against International law to commit terrorist acts on civilians. It does not matter that the country is occupying the land, any attacks on civilians will just tighten the noose as defined in the Geneva conventions.
 
In what way don't they fit the definition of terrorist, as stated here by the UN

Criminal acts intended or calculated to provoke a state of terror in the general public, a group of persons or particular persons for political purposes are in any circumstance unjustifiable, whatever the considerations of a political, philosophical, ideological, racial, ethnic, religious or any other nature that may be invoked to justify them

They don't mention self defense.

Israel hasn't attacked them first in like, forever. Get a grip, dude.

It is still self defense until Israel leaves Palestine.
 
It is Israel's war. Only Israel can stop it.



So when did Israel declare war on islam and Palestine ?

provide a link from a credible source that details the declaration of war.

My link is the UN archives were the arab league declares war on the Jews on behalf of Palestine and that it has never been fully rescinded


So it is the Palestinians war and only the Palestinians can stop it.............

And the Palestinians started the war when they went to Europe and attacked the Zionists.

Oh, wait...
Clear one thing up for me, why did the US die in 1913 like it says on your headstone?
 
So when did Israel declare war on islam and Palestine ?

provide a link from a credible source that details the declaration of war.

My link is the UN archives were the arab league declares war on the Jews on behalf of Palestine and that it has never been fully rescinded


So it is the Palestinians war and only the Palestinians can stop it.............

And the Palestinians started the war when they went to Europe and attacked the Zionists.

Oh, wait...
Clear one thing up for me, why did the US die in 1913 like it says on your headstone?

He believes the Zionists took over the U.S. in that year.
 
Lol are you saying that when Germany occupied Poland, that the citizens of Germany were not civilians?

Youve brought up the link that shows that citizens of the occupying power are not civilians, but nothing that shows that citizens in Israel proper, where there is no occupation are not civilians. Just another lie to add to my list of bold claims you made that you were wrong about

Israel is the occupying power. What difference does location make?




A lot actually as it is against International Law to wage war on civilians, just as it is against International law to commit terrorist acts on civilians. It does not matter that the country is occupying the land, any attacks on civilians will just tighten the noose as defined in the Geneva conventions.

Even when the definition of protected persons is set out in this way, it may seem rather complicated. Nevertheless, disregarding points of detail, it will be seen that there are two main classes of protected person: (1) ' enemy nationals ' within the national territory of each of the Parties to the conflict and (2) ' the whole population ' of occupied territories (excluding nationals of the Occupying Power).

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What else you got?
 
Oh boy, so now you are playing the terrorist card. :cuckoo:
Tinmore, anyone reading your posts for the first time would get the idea that you espouse sabotage, rockets, raids on settlers, car bombing, suicide bombing, and other atrocities as a means of "resistance". I agree that peace talks are a sham and that they are only held in order for the Arabs to make promises and agreements to appease the world only to renege everything. You must set your goal on peace and not "resistance". Or that "self-determination" bull crap.

I do. I fully support and promote BDS as a peaceful solution.

What are you doing for peace? What peace initiatives do you support?




Even though it harms the Palestinians and the Palestinian economy. And now most countries are making BDS illegal and arresting those that incite racism as a result.
 
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Tinmore, anyone reading your posts for the first time would get the idea that you espouse sabotage, rockets, raids on settlers, car bombing, suicide bombing, and other atrocities as a means of "resistance". I agree that peace talks are a sham and that they are only held in order for the Arabs to make promises and agreements to appease the world only to renege everything. You must set your goal on peace and not "resistance". Or that "self-determination" bull crap.

I do. I fully support and promote BDS as a peaceful solution.

What are you doing for peace? What peace initiatives do you support?
There ya go again! BDS is not defensive.It's another provocation. I'm inclined to believe that you are just another two-bit tinhorn warmonger.




The simple answer is for all Israeli companies to state that in future they will not employ any Palestinians and will relocate into Israel proper. If they cant find the workforce then relocate to any nation that makes BDS an illegal racist group and employ the people.

Should cause a lot of controversy around the world when the Palestinians find they are unemployed and destitute, and no company will provide employment opportunities because of BDS
 
Clear one thing up for me, why did the US die in 1913 like it says on your headstone?

He believes the Zionists took over the U.S. in that year.

:lmao:

Well Zionists through AIPAC have taken over the US policies in the ME through this lobby for a foreign power, they contribute more campaign contributions than anyone else, certainly first or second.

All for a foreign power which sabotage efforts of peace by America and clearly against our interests.

America needs to remove this cancer with campaign finance reform.
 
I think you need to read further. Nobody in the world, except Britain and Pakistan (???), recognized this annexation.

This begs a question. If this land was Jordan's and it was conquered by Israel in 1967, why is it called "occupied Palestinian territory?"

If the land was Jordan's and they don't seem to be asking for it back, why should anyone give to the Pals? Are they claiming the land as Jordanians? Apparently not, so wassup?

Because Jordan occupied Palestinian land. They attempted to annex it but failed.

Israel won the occupation of Palestinian land in 1967.
 
P F Tinmore, et al,

Please read this carefully.

The west Bank was not Jordan.
(OBSERVATION)

From the Government of the Hashemite Kingdom Website:
Unification of the Two Banks said:
As a result of the war, many Palestinian Arabs from the Jordanian-controlled areas found that union with Jordan was of vital importance to the preservation of Arab control over the “West Bank” territories which had not fallen to the Israelis. Consequently, in December 1948, a group of Palestinian leaders and notables from the West Bank convened a historic conference in Jericho, where they called for King Abdullah to take immediate steps to unite the two banks of the Jordan into a single state under his leadership.

On April 11, 1950, elections were held for a new Jordanian parliament in which the Palestinian Arabs of the West Bank were equally represented. Thirteen days later, Parliament unanimously approved a motion to unite the two banks of the Jordan River, constitutionally expanding the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan in order to safeguard what was left of the Arab territory of Palestine from further Zionist expansion.

The Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan now included nearly one and a half million people, more than half a million of whom were refugees evicted from Jewish-occupied Palestine. All automatically became citizens of Jordan, a right that had first been offered in December 1949 to all Palestinians who wished to claim it. Although the Arab League opposed this plan, and no other Arab government followed JordanÂ’s lead, the Hashemite Kingdom offered the possibility of normal life for many people who would have otherwise remained stateless refugees.

SOURCE: The Tragedy of Palestine
(COMMENT)

Notice that the decision included participation by the "Palestinian Arabs of the West Bank" in the decision to annex. This is called exercising the right of self-determination.

Arab Palestinian revisionist often like to omit the fact that they were part of the process and that they voted for annexation.

Most Respectfully,
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I think you need to read further. Nobody in the world, except Britain and Pakistan (???), recognized this annexation.

This begs a question. If this land was Jordan's and it was conquered by Israel in 1967, why is it called "occupied Palestinian territory?"





The Palestinians exercised their right to self determination in being annexed to Jordan. It does not matter on iota what the rest of the world thought as long as the people who lived there exercised that right. There is no precedence in International law that said the Palestinians had to take up a new nation, they could just as easily have amalgamated with an existing one. So in essence right up until Jordan decided to cast that west bank adrift it was Jordanian land and the inhabitants were Jordanian. This was the case right up until October 1994 when Jordan relinquished its control of the west bank and placed it into the hands of its populace. So from that time on it became known as Palestine .

Answer your question ?
 
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