I will not Bow!

[toastman]

It's not propaganda.

Because that's exactly what they did.

That's personal! What matters, is what they did when they got here.

And they constantly violated immigration levels set by the British.

So? Irrevant
That doesn't justify making the Pals suffer when they got here.
I never said it did. Irrelevant
They also recognized the jewish terrorist group that bombed their hotel.
Irrelevant to what we are discussing.
No takeover?

Tell that to the over 700,000 indigenous arabs that were driven from their homes by jewish terrorist groups like Irgun

Learn to read I said there was no COUNTRY to take over. Taking over villages during a war where the Palestinians joined the the Arabs to destroy Israel and push the Jews to the sea is not taking over a mythical country. BOTH sides were trying to push eachother out, but the Jews won so get over it and stop whining.

Now all you have to do is get millions of Palestinians to believe that load of crap.

Good luck with that.

Get them to believe the truth? Im sure most of them are not as duded as you and would probably want you to stop making them look so bad .

I cant believe you are not capable of understanding something so simple. It's astonishing Tinmore.

Now all YOU got to do is convince the world of tour lie. Good luck !

 

[Indeependent]

Jews winning is intolerable.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Now all you have to do is get millions of Palestinians to believe that load of crap.

Good luck with that.

Get them to believe the truth? Im sure most of them are not as duded as you and would probably want you to stop making them look so bad .

I cant believe you are not capable of understanding something so simple. It's astonishing Tinmore.

Now all YOU got to do is convince the world of tour lie. Good luck !

If Palestine was not the Palestinians country than whose was it?

 

[pbel]

Now all you have to do is get millions of Palestinians to believe that load of crap.

Good luck with that.

Get them to believe the truth? Im sure most of them are not as duded as you and would probably want you to stop making them look so bad .

I cant believe you are not capable of understanding something so simple. It's astonishing Tinmore.

Now all YOU got to do is convince the world of tour lie. Good luck !

World polls believe that a two state solution to the 67 armistice lines...The UN recognized Palestine with E. Jerusalem as their Capital...Sure you'll bray like a donkey "screaming we control, F the world, take it from us..." Nice Jingos, remember to keep a ticket for a quick flight out...

Just in case.

 

[RoccoR]

P F Tinmore, et al,

If I didn't know any better, I'd say you were expressing characteristics of a unreasonable fear or hatred of foreigners (Xenophobia). But we know that's not true.

A century ago, clearly the "Zionist" were not the aggressor.

Bullcrap, Rocco.

Did the Palestinians go to Europe and attack the Zionists?

Or...

Did the Zionists go to Palestine to take over the country?

(COMMENT)

Neither!

The Zionist were invited to immigrate. Immigration is not the same thing as attacking.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[RoccoR]

P F Tinmore, et al,

Yeah, what kind of question is this?

If Palestine was not the Palestinians country than whose was it?

(COMMENT)

It was a legal entity under civil administration (originally under the title of Occupied Enemy Territory Administration) of the UK assigned by the Supreme Council of the Allied Powers at San Remo.

A Mandate!

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[toastman]

Get them to believe the truth? Im sure most of them are not as duded as you and would probably want you to stop making them look so bad .

I cant believe you are not capable of understanding something so simple. It's astonishing Tinmore.

Now all YOU got to do is convince the world of tour lie. Good luck !

World polls believe that a two state solution to the 67 armistice lines...The UN recognized Palestine with E. Jerusalem as their Capital...Sure you'll bray like a donkey "screaming we control, F the world, take it from us..." Nice Jingos, remember to keep a ticket for a quick flight out...

Just in case.

I know you're IQ is not much higher the your shoe size Pbel, but Tinmore and I were discussing a different period, way before the UN recognized Palestine based on the 67 borders. I dont usually give advice to idiots but, delete your post now before anyone else sees it. Theres still time!

 

[P F Tinmore]

P F Tinmore, et al,

If I didn't know any better, I'd say you were expressing characteristics of a unreasonable fear or hatred of foreigners (Xenophobia). But we know that's not true.

A century ago, clearly the "Zionist" were not the aggressor.

Bullcrap, Rocco.

Did the Palestinians go to Europe and attack the Zionists?

Or...

Did the Zionists go to Palestine to take over the country?

(COMMENT)

Neither!

The Zionist were invited to immigrate. Immigration is not the same thing as attacking.

Most Respectfully,
R

Immigrate for what purpose?

 

[P F Tinmore]

P F Tinmore, et al,

Yeah, what kind of question is this?

If Palestine was not the Palestinians country than whose was it?

(COMMENT)

It was a legal entity under civil administration (originally under the title of Occupied Enemy Territory Administration) of the UK assigned by the Supreme Council of the Allied Powers at San Remo.

A Mandate!

Most Respectfully,
R

The mandate was not Palestine. The mandate was assigned to Palestine. Palestine exists separate from the mandate.

 

[Kondor3]

Wow such Palestinian propaganda.

It's not propaganda.

Why do you always bring that it was the Zionists that came to Palestine??

Because that's exactly what they did.

That's personal! What matters, is what they did when they got here.

And they constantly violated immigration levels set by the British.


That doesn't justify making the Pals suffer when they got here.

Thank goodness the Brits recognized this.

They also recognized the jewish terrorist group that bombed their hotel.

Also, there was no country to take over, that is just a lie you keep repeating because even though you know Im right, without the 'taking over their country' propaganda lie, your whole agenda is shattered.

No takeover?

Tell that to the over 700,000 indigenous arabs that were driven from their homes by jewish terrorist groups like Irgun.

Hmmmmmmmmmmm...

Oh, and, by the way, your magic 700,000 number includes vast numbers of Arabs who left on their own without being driven out...

 

[RoccoR]

P F Tinmore, et al,

I may have to call-in Hercule Poirot for this one.

The Zionist were invited to immigrate. Immigration is not the same thing as attacking.

Immigrate for what purpose?

(COMMENT)

The Mandate had three critical charms to it.

(i) the creation of conditions which would secure the establishment of the Jewish national home;
(ii) the creation of conditions which would secure the development of self-governing institutions; and
(iii) the safeguarding of the civil and religious rights of all the inhabitants.​

Jewish immigration was encouraged for Jews who were willing to assist in the establishment of the Jewish national home. (Article 4, Mandate of Palestine)

This was the first critical task set down by the Supreme Council of the Allied Powers at San Remo on the 25th April, 1920.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[P F Tinmore]

Wow such Palestinian propaganda.

It's not propaganda.

Because that's exactly what they did.

That's personal! What matters, is what they did when they got here.

And they constantly violated immigration levels set by the British.


That doesn't justify making the Pals suffer when they got here.

They also recognized the jewish terrorist group that bombed their hotel.

Also, there was no country to take over, that is just a lie you keep repeating because even though you know Im right, without the 'taking over their country' propaganda lie, your whole agenda is shattered.

No takeover?

Tell that to the over 700,000 indigenous arabs that were driven from their homes by jewish terrorist groups like Irgun.

Hmmmmmmmmmmm...

Oh, and, by the way, your magic 700,000 number includes vast numbers of Arabs who left on their own without being driven out...

Irrelevant.

The right to return does not depend on the reason for leaving.

 

[Indeependent]

It's not propaganda.

Because that's exactly what they did.

That's personal! What matters, is what they did when they got here.

And they constantly violated immigration levels set by the British.


That doesn't justify making the Pals suffer when they got here.

They also recognized the jewish terrorist group that bombed their hotel.

No takeover?

Tell that to the over 700,000 indigenous arabs that were driven from their homes by jewish terrorist groups like Irgun.

Hmmmmmmmmmmm...

Oh, and, by the way, your magic 700,000 number includes vast numbers of Arabs who left on their own without being driven out...

Irrelevant.

The right to return does not depend on the reason for leaving.

de facto...it does NOW!

 

[P F Tinmore]

P F Tinmore, et al,

I may have to call-in Hercule Poirot for this one.

The Zionist were invited to immigrate. Immigration is not the same thing as attacking.

Immigrate for what purpose?

(COMMENT)

The Mandate had three critical charms to it.

(i) the creation of conditions which would secure the establishment of the Jewish national home;​

Were the natives consulted about this or was it a foreign imposed mandate?

(ii) the creation of conditions which would secure the development of self-governing institutions; and

What conditions were created that secured the development of self-governing institutions for the natives?

(iii) the safeguarding of the civil and religious rights of all the inhabitants.

Could you elaborate?

Jewish immigration was encouraged for Jews who were willing to assist in the establishment of the Jewish national home. (Article 4, Mandate of Palestine)

This was the first critical task set down by the Supreme Council of the Allied Powers at San Remo on the 25th April, 1920.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[toastman]

It's not propaganda.

Because that's exactly what they did.

That's personal! What matters, is what they did when they got here.

And they constantly violated immigration levels set by the British.


That doesn't justify making the Pals suffer when they got here.

They also recognized the jewish terrorist group that bombed their hotel.

No takeover?

Tell that to the over 700,000 indigenous arabs that were driven from their homes by jewish terrorist groups like Irgun.

Hmmmmmmmmmmm...

Oh, and, by the way, your magic 700,000 number includes vast numbers of Arabs who left on their own without being driven out...

Irrelevant.

The right to return does not depend on the reason for leaving.

It depends on Israel allowing them to return or not. Guess which one it is??

 

[toastman]

P F Tinmore, et al,

I may have to call-in Hercule Poirot for this one.

Immigrate for what purpose?

(COMMENT)

The Mandate had three critical charms to it.

(i) the creation of conditions which would secure the establishment of the Jewish national home;​

Were the natives consulted about this or was it a foreign imposed mandate?


What conditions were created that secured the development of self-governing institutions for the natives?

(iii) the safeguarding of the civil and religious rights of all the inhabitants.

Could you elaborate?

Jewish immigration was encouraged for Jews who were willing to assist in the establishment of the Jewish national home. (Article 4, Mandate of Palestine)

This was the first critical task set down by the Supreme Council of the Allied Powers at San Remo on the 25th April, 1920.

Most Respectfully,
R

The first two questions are so stupid. Why is it that whenever Rocco answers your questions and dismantles your points you start to ask questions that are almost impossible to answer

 

[P F Tinmore]

P F Tinmore, et al,

I may have to call-in Hercule Poirot for this one.


(COMMENT)

The Mandate had three critical charms to it.

(i) the creation of conditions which would secure the establishment of the Jewish national home;​

Were the natives consulted about this or was it a foreign imposed mandate?


What conditions were created that secured the development of self-governing institutions for the natives?


Could you elaborate?

Jewish immigration was encouraged for Jews who were willing to assist in the establishment of the Jewish national home. (Article 4, Mandate of Palestine)

This was the first critical task set down by the Supreme Council of the Allied Powers at San Remo on the 25th April, 1920.

Most Respectfully,
R

The first two questions are so stupid. Why is it that whenever Rocco answers your questions and dismantles your points you start to ask questions that are almost impossible to answer​

I must. Nobody can (or wants to) answer them.​

 

[toastman]

Were the natives consulted about this or was it a foreign imposed mandate?


What conditions were created that secured the development of self-governing institutions for the natives?


Could you elaborate?

The first two questions are so stupid. Why is it that whenever Rocco answers your questions and dismantles your points you start to ask questions that are almost impossible to answer

I must. Nobody can (or wants to) answer them.

Bullshit. It makes it look like you are trying to take attention away from your points that were dismantled

 

[P F Tinmore]

The first two questions are so stupid. Why is it that whenever Rocco answers your questions and dismantles your points you start to ask questions that are almost impossible to answer

I must. Nobody can (or wants to) answer them.

Bullshit. It makes it look like you are trying to take attention away from your points that were dismantled

Questions are asked to clarify information.

 

[RoccoR]

P F Tinmore, et al,

You get this wrong consistently. One more time.

Yeah, what kind of question is this?

If Palestine was not the Palestinians country than whose was it?

(COMMENT)

It was a legal entity under civil administration (originally under the title of Occupied Enemy Territory Administration) of the UK assigned by the Supreme Council of the Allied Powers at San Remo.

A Mandate!

Most Respectfully,
R

The mandate was not Palestine. The mandate was assigned to Palestine. Palestine exists separate from the mandate.

(COMMENT)

Remembering that:

PRELIMINARY.
Title ---

1. This Order may be cited as "The Palestine Order in Council, 1922."

The limits of this Order are the territories to which the Mandate for Palestine applies, hereinafter described as Palestine.​

SOURCE: The Palestine Order in Council

To say "Palestine" is exactly equal to saying "Mandate for Palestine." It describes both a protocol and a place.

Palestine was defined at the leisure of the Mandate. It was not a defined territory previously under under some sovereignty by a people known as Palestinians.

Whereas the Principal Allied Powers have agreed, for the purpose of giving effect to the provisions of Article 22 of the Covenant of the League of Nations, to entrust to a Mandatory selected by the said Powers the administration of the territory of Palestine, which formerly belonged to the Turkish Empire, within such boundaries as may be fixed by them;
SOURCE: Convention

It had no boundaries until the Allied Powers fixed them.

You are quibbling with words to fit your agenda. You conveniently forget that the:

"Mandate for Palestine" = "Palestine"​

It was not a territory that belonged to "Palestinians" --- nor does the word imply that. It is a territory arbitrarily defined by the Allied Powers for political purposes. It does not describe a territory with a defined population or boundary, except as the Allied Powers found convenient.

Do you understand?

Most Respectfully,
R