I like the Idea of God...

[yiostheoy]

And, if it makes a difference, I firmly BELIEVE that all of humanity descends from a family from Africa.

I read somewhere a study that suggests that the current variety of human genetics can be traced back to only a few thousand people scattered around the world 75,000 years ago after some sort of cataclysmic event that reduced worldwide populations of several hominid species from many millions.


Anyway, the point is that there is no one family to be traced back to. There was interbreeding with extinct hominids over millions of years. Its like saying all dogs can be traced back to one wolf pack.

Not true.

their ancestors were wolves but dingos,jackals, coyotes, foxes, etc., were also involved.

Some ancestors of modern humans were not human at all.

For instance, more than 8% of the human genome is a virus, a part of our own DNA, that has been descending through the human lineage affecting the evolution of the species for about 700,000 years.


The story of Adam is just a story of a more highly evolved form of intelligent life compassionately attempting to civilize educate and refine a person like Kaspar Hauser or Victor of Aveyron , without success.

... got any links for all that ??

How Human Beings Almost Vanished From Earth In 70,000 B.C.

" the technical term is 40 "breeding pairs" (children not included). More likely there was a drastic dip and then 5,000 to 10,000 bedraggled Homo sapiens struggled together in pitiful little clumps hunting and gathering for thousands of years until, in the late Stone Age, we humans began to recover. "


8 Percent of Human Genome Was Inserted By Virus, and May Cause Schizophrenia

Interesting that non human viral DNA within our own genome might affect thoughts in the mind, isn't it?



19 Pieces Of Non-Human DNA Found In Human Genome

"Significance: ...... By examining >2,500 sequenced genomes, we have discovered 19 previously unidentified HERV-K insertions, including an intact provirus without apparent substitutions that would alter viral function, only the second such provirus described. Our results provide a basis for future studies of HERV evolution and implication for disease."



Victor, the Wild Boy of Aveyron

Thanks !!

 

[yiostheoy]

And, if it makes a difference, I firmly BELIEVE that all of humanity descends from a family from Africa.

I read somewhere a study that suggests that the current variety of human genetics can be traced back to only a few thousand people scattered around the world 75,000 years ago after some sort of cataclysmic event that reduced worldwide populations of several hominid species from many millions.


Anyway, the point is that there is no one family to be traced back to. There was interbreeding with extinct hominids over millions of years. Its like saying all dogs can be traced back to one wolf pack.

Not true.

their ancestors were wolves but dingos,jackals, coyotes, foxes, etc., were also involved.

Some ancestors of modern humans were not human at all.

For instance, more than 8% of the human genome is a virus, a part of our own DNA, that has been descending through the human lineage affecting the evolution of the species for about 700,000 years.


The story of Adam is just a story of a more highly evolved form of intelligent life compassionately attempting to civilize educate and refine a person like Kaspar Hauser or Victor of Aveyron , without success.

... got any links for all that ??

How Human Beings Almost Vanished From Earth In 70,000 B.C.

" the technical term is 40 "breeding pairs" (children not included). More likely there was a drastic dip and then 5,000 to 10,000 bedraggled Homo sapiens struggled together in pitiful little clumps hunting and gathering for thousands of years until, in the late Stone Age, we humans began to recover. "


8 Percent of Human Genome Was Inserted By Virus, and May Cause Schizophrenia

Interesting that non human viral DNA within our own genome might affect thoughts in the mind, isn't it?



19 Pieces Of Non-Human DNA Found In Human Genome

"Significance: ...... By examining >2,500 sequenced genomes, we have discovered 19 previously unidentified HERV-K insertions, including an intact provirus without apparent substitutions that would alter viral function, only the second such provirus described. Our results provide a basis for future studies of HERV evolution and implication for disease."



Victor, the Wild Boy of Aveyron

This (the volcano story) is Malthusian.

There has been lots of talk about the present modern end of Malthusianism -- the 10 billion cap on human population capacity of the Earth.

We are supposed to reach 10 billion by 2050.

If I am still alive I will be a Centenarian by then, my kids in their 70's, and my grandkids in their 40's.

I hope they take care of grandpa.

Still this would have nothing to do with God or God-ness.

All of us believe in a Deist Philosophy-God -- not in a Theist Catholic God who sends Mother Mary to appear in cheese sandwiches.

 

[keepitreal]

The odds of any one of the three ancient Arab stories from earth that are driving our modern religion being the last Word on THE GOD of The UNIVERSE are slim, eh?

​

Dear AVG-JOE
given that GOD represents infinite things beyond the scope of man,
nobody's depiction is going to capture ALL of GOD literally > that's impossible.
The most we can do is SYMBOLIZE the RELATIONSHIPS.

We can't capture infinity in numbers even if we counted forever.
We can use SYMBOLS
1 + 1 + 1 .....
IN ORDER TO AGREE WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT

That's the most we can, label things so we at least AGREE
what we MEAN.

The laws and languages you list above are for people of
THOSE GROUPS to communicate with each other and
AGREE on points and principles so they operate in unison.

Guess what secular people use? SCIENCE.
we use MATH AND SCIENCE as a common language
to communicate VALUES. RELATIONSHIPS and PROCESS.

So that's all these religions are used to do.
They are relative like French, Spanish, etc. and speak to certain
audiences who share a certain cultural heritage in common.

You are like asking what are the chances of French being a true language or Chinese? None of these languages agree with each other! So what are the chances that they are correct?

Well they all work to speak to a particular audience that
understands and responds to THAT LANGUAGE.

So ALL OF THEM can be used correctly to convey TRUTH
and reach AGREEMENT. They re TOOLS for communicating.

Does that make sense AVG-JOE
Do you like that explanation or do you seek a different one?

Does that make sense

Do you like that explanation or do you seek a different one?

 

[yiostheoy]

The odds of any one of the three ancient Arab stories from earth that are driving our modern religion being the last Word on THE GOD of The UNIVERSE are slim, eh?

​

Dear AVG-JOE
given that GOD represents infinite things beyond the scope of man,
nobody's depiction is going to capture ALL of GOD literally > that's impossible.
The most we can do is SYMBOLIZE the RELATIONSHIPS.

We can't capture infinity in numbers even if we counted forever.
We can use SYMBOLS
1 + 1 + 1 .....
IN ORDER TO AGREE WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT

That's the most we can, label things so we at least AGREE
what we MEAN.

The laws and languages you list above are for people of
THOSE GROUPS to communicate with each other and
AGREE on points and principles so they operate in unison.

Guess what secular people use? SCIENCE.
we use MATH AND SCIENCE as a common language
to communicate VALUES. RELATIONSHIPS and PROCESS.

So that's all these religions are used to do.
They are relative like French, Spanish, etc. and speak to certain
audiences who share a certain cultural heritage in common.

You are like asking what are the chances of French being a true language or Chinese? None of these languages agree with each other! So what are the chances that they are correct?

Well they all work to speak to a particular audience that
understands and responds to THAT LANGUAGE.

So ALL OF THEM can be used correctly to convey TRUTH
and reach AGREEMENT. They re TOOLS for communicating.

Does that make sense AVG-JOE
Do you like that explanation or do you seek a different one?

Does that make sense

Do you like that explanation or do you seek a different one?

Sometimes the quote-function malfunctions.

So you need to edit and clean this up keepitreal .

 

[emilynghiem]

And, if it makes a difference, I firmly BELIEVE that all of humanity descends from a family from Africa.

I read somewhere a study that suggests that the current variety of human genetics can be traced back to only a few thousand people scattered around the world 75,000 years ago after some sort of cataclysmic event that reduced worldwide populations of several hominid species from many millions.


Anyway, the point is that there is no one family to be traced back to. There was interbreeding with extinct hominids over millions of years. Its like saying all dogs can be traced back to one wolf pack.

Not true.

their ancestors were wolves but dingos,jackals, coyotes, foxes, etc., were also involved.

Some ancestors of modern humans were not human at all.

For instance, more than 8% of the human genome is a virus, a part of our own DNA, that has been descending through the human lineage affecting the evolution of the species for about 700,000 years.


The story of Adam is just a story of a more highly evolved form of intelligent life compassionately attempting to civilize educate and refine a person like Kaspar Hauser or Victor of Aveyron , without success.

... got any links for all that ??

How Human Beings Almost Vanished From Earth In 70,000 B.C.

" the technical term is 40 "breeding pairs" (children not included). More likely there was a drastic dip and then 5,000 to 10,000 bedraggled Homo sapiens struggled together in pitiful little clumps hunting and gathering for thousands of years until, in the late Stone Age, we humans began to recover. "


8 Percent of Human Genome Was Inserted By Virus, and May Cause Schizophrenia

Interesting that non human viral DNA within our own genome might affect thoughts in the mind, isn't it?



19 Pieces Of Non-Human DNA Found In Human Genome

"Significance: ...... By examining >2,500 sequenced genomes, we have discovered 19 previously unidentified HERV-K insertions, including an intact provirus without apparent substitutions that would alter viral function, only the second such provirus described. Our results provide a basis for future studies of HERV evolution and implication for disease."



Victor, the Wild Boy of Aveyron

This (the volcano story) is Malthusian.

There has been lots of talk about the present modern end of Malthusianism -- the 10 billion cap on human population capacity of the Earth.

We are supposed to reach 10 billion by 2050.

If I am still alive I will be a Centenarian by then, my kids in their 70's, and my grandkids in their 40's.

I hope they take care of grandpa.

Still this would have nothing to do with God or God-ness.

All of us believe in a Deist Philosophy-God -- not in a Theist Catholic God who sends Mother Mary to appear in cheese sandwiches.

Hi yiostheoy
The way I explain how all this reflects the same universal patterns:
each person is a product of a man and a woman, mother and father,
and we inherit both good and bad influences carried in the conscience or family line of both.

So this affects our psychology, and everyone can reflect or project patterns from our mothers and fathers.

Now COLLECTIVELY the church represents the mother figure
and the state represents the father figure.

So whatever battles we fight in life, start on a personal level,
with our own families, which reflect in our relationships (ESPECIALLY male/female relations that are the most sensitive for control and communication issues to manifest), and THEN COLLECTIVELY
in our relations with institutions including church and state authority.

We either project local issues GLOBALLY
or we let collective influences affect us individually.

The two levels are connected:
individual
collective
and the CONSCIENCE or RELATIONSHIP joining
these two levels.

So THAT'S WHAT the trinity represents.
collective level symbolized by God
as collective truth/authority/will/universe/life/laws or forces of nature etc.
and
local level of humanity
where "Jesus" or laws of justice
join the laws of man/individually
with the universal laws of God/collectively

The laws we try to etch out either using church religious laws
or state secular laws are ATTEMPTS to define and manage
the RELATIONSHIP between the individual and the collective level.

So all religions are are LANGUAGES for these laws.
But they can be expressed using science, psychology,
civil laws of governance and democratic process between
individual people and collective state govt, etc.

 

[keepitreal]

The odds of any one of the three ancient Arab stories from earth that are driving our modern religion being the last Word on THE GOD of The UNIVERSE are slim, eh?

​

Dear AVG-JOE
given that GOD represents infinite things beyond the scope of man,
nobody's depiction is going to capture ALL of GOD literally > that's impossible.
The most we can do is SYMBOLIZE the RELATIONSHIPS.

We can't capture infinity in numbers even if we counted forever.
We can use SYMBOLS
1 + 1 + 1 .....
IN ORDER TO AGREE WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT

That's the most we can, label things so we at least AGREE
what we MEAN.

The laws and languages you list above are for people of
THOSE GROUPS to communicate with each other and
AGREE on points and principles so they operate in unison.

Guess what secular people use? SCIENCE.
we use MATH AND SCIENCE as a common language
to communicate VALUES. RELATIONSHIPS and PROCESS.

So that's all these religions are used to do.
They are relative like French, Spanish, etc. and speak to certain
audiences who share a certain cultural heritage in common.

You are like asking what are the chances of French being a true language or Chinese? None of these languages agree with each other! So what are the chances that they are correct?

Well they all work to speak to a particular audience that
understands and responds to THAT LANGUAGE.

So ALL OF THEM can be used correctly to convey TRUTH
and reach AGREEMENT. They re TOOLS for communicating.

Does that make sense AVG-JOE
Do you like that explanation or do you seek a different one?

Does that make sense

Do you like that explanation or do you seek a different one?

Sometimes the quote-function malfunctions.

So you need to edit and clean this up keepitreal .

Sometimes the quote-function malfunctions.

So you need to edit and clean this up keepitreal .

Ummm, excuse me....
Exactly, what is it I need to edit and clean up?

And, the quote feature has what to do with my post?

 

[yiostheoy]

The odds of any one of the three ancient Arab stories from earth that are driving our modern religion being the last Word on THE GOD of The UNIVERSE are slim, eh?

​

Dear AVG-JOE
given that GOD represents infinite things beyond the scope of man,
nobody's depiction is going to capture ALL of GOD literally > that's impossible.
The most we can do is SYMBOLIZE the RELATIONSHIPS.

We can't capture infinity in numbers even if we counted forever.
We can use SYMBOLS
1 + 1 + 1 .....
IN ORDER TO AGREE WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT

That's the most we can, label things so we at least AGREE
what we MEAN.

The laws and languages you list above are for people of
THOSE GROUPS to communicate with each other and
AGREE on points and principles so they operate in unison.

Guess what secular people use? SCIENCE.
we use MATH AND SCIENCE as a common language
to communicate VALUES. RELATIONSHIPS and PROCESS.

So that's all these religions are used to do.
They are relative like French, Spanish, etc. and speak to certain
audiences who share a certain cultural heritage in common.

You are like asking what are the chances of French being a true language or Chinese? None of these languages agree with each other! So what are the chances that they are correct?

Well they all work to speak to a particular audience that
understands and responds to THAT LANGUAGE.

So ALL OF THEM can be used correctly to convey TRUTH
and reach AGREEMENT. They re TOOLS for communicating.

Does that make sense AVG-JOE
Do you like that explanation or do you seek a different one?

Does that make sense

Do you like that explanation or do you seek a different one?

Sometimes the quote-function malfunctions.

So you need to edit and clean this up keepitreal .

Sometimes the quote-function malfunctions.

So you need to edit and clean this up keepitreal .

Ummm, excuse me....
Exactly, what is it I need to edit and clean up?

And, the quote feature has what to do with my post?

Can't tell what you are trying to say.

You need to fix it.

Try this:

... subject ... verb ... predicate ...

... intro ... body ... conclusion ... .

 

[emilynghiem]

The odds of any one of the three ancient Arab stories from earth that are driving our modern religion being the last Word on THE GOD of The UNIVERSE are slim, eh?

​

Dear AVG-JOE
given that GOD represents infinite things beyond the scope of man,
nobody's depiction is going to capture ALL of GOD literally > that's impossible.
The most we can do is SYMBOLIZE the RELATIONSHIPS.

We can't capture infinity in numbers even if we counted forever.
We can use SYMBOLS
1 + 1 + 1 .....
IN ORDER TO AGREE WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT

That's the most we can, label things so we at least AGREE
what we MEAN.

The laws and languages you list above are for people of
THOSE GROUPS to communicate with each other and
AGREE on points and principles so they operate in unison.

Guess what secular people use? SCIENCE.
we use MATH AND SCIENCE as a common language
to communicate VALUES. RELATIONSHIPS and PROCESS.

So that's all these religions are used to do.
They are relative like French, Spanish, etc. and speak to certain
audiences who share a certain cultural heritage in common.

You are like asking what are the chances of French being a true language or Chinese? None of these languages agree with each other! So what are the chances that they are correct?

Well they all work to speak to a particular audience that
understands and responds to THAT LANGUAGE.

So ALL OF THEM can be used correctly to convey TRUTH
and reach AGREEMENT. They re TOOLS for communicating.

Does that make sense AVG-JOE
Do you like that explanation or do you seek a different one?

Does that make sense

Do you like that explanation or do you seek a different one?

Sometimes the quote-function malfunctions.

So you need to edit and clean this up keepitreal .

Sometimes the quote-function malfunctions.

So you need to edit and clean this up keepitreal .

Ummm, excuse me....
Exactly, what is it I need to edit and clean up?

And, the quote feature has what to do with my post?

Can't tell what you are trying to say.

You need to fix it.

Try this:

... subject ... verb ... predicate ...

... intro ... body ... conclusion ... .

Dear yiostheoy:
Let me translate for you:
1. Emily says blah blah blah

2. keepitreal says "uhhh?"

3. Emily says more blah blah blah

4. keepitreal says "STOP!"

 

[yiostheoy]

Dear yiostheoy:
Let me translate for you:
1. Emily says blah blah blah

2. keepitreal says "uhhh?"

3. Emily says more blah blah blah

4. keepitreal says "STOP!"

Thank you emilynghiem . You have such a way with words !!

I guess this kind of speech is somehow primordial.

I myself was spoiled in grad school however when they made me teach technical writing to undergrads to keep my scholarship.

That's why I am stuck on subject/verb/predicate and intro/body/conclusion. Habits, you know.

 

[keepitreal]

The odds of any one of the three ancient Arab stories from earth that are driving our modern religion being the last Word on THE GOD of The UNIVERSE are slim, eh?

​

Dear AVG-JOE
given that GOD represents infinite things beyond the scope of man,
nobody's depiction is going to capture ALL of GOD literally > that's impossible.
The most we can do is SYMBOLIZE the RELATIONSHIPS.

We can't capture infinity in numbers even if we counted forever.
We can use SYMBOLS
1 + 1 + 1 .....
IN ORDER TO AGREE WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT

That's the most we can, label things so we at least AGREE
what we MEAN.

The laws and languages you list above are for people of
THOSE GROUPS to communicate with each other and
AGREE on points and principles so they operate in unison.

Guess what secular people use? SCIENCE.
we use MATH AND SCIENCE as a common language
to communicate VALUES. RELATIONSHIPS and PROCESS.

So that's all these religions are used to do.
They are relative like French, Spanish, etc. and speak to certain
audiences who share a certain cultural heritage in common.

You are like asking what are the chances of French being a true language or Chinese? None of these languages agree with each other! So what are the chances that they are correct?

Well they all work to speak to a particular audience that
understands and responds to THAT LANGUAGE.

So ALL OF THEM can be used correctly to convey TRUTH
and reach AGREEMENT. They re TOOLS for communicating.

Does that make sense AVG-JOE
Do you like that explanation or do you seek a different one?

Does that make sense

Do you like that explanation or do you seek a different one?

Sometimes the quote-function malfunctions.

So you need to edit and clean this up keepitreal .

Sometimes the quote-function malfunctions.

So you need to edit and clean this up keepitreal .

Ummm, excuse me....
Exactly, what is it I need to edit and clean up?

And, the quote feature has what to do with my post?

Can't tell what you are trying to say.

You need to fix it.

Try this:

... subject ... verb ... predicate ...

... intro ... body ... conclusion ... .

Can't tell what you are trying to say.

oh well

You need to fix it.

lol
no I don't,
I don't have to fix shit!

 

[emilynghiem]

Dear yiostheoy:
Let me translate for you:
1. Emily says blah blah blah

2. keepitreal says "uhhh?"

3. Emily says more blah blah blah

4. keepitreal says "STOP!"

Thank you emilynghiem . You have such a way with words !!

I guess this kind of speech is somehow primordial.

I myself was spoiled in grad school however when they made me teach technical writing to undergrads to keep my scholarship.

That's why I am stuck on subject/verb/predicate and intro/body/conclusion. Habits, you know.

Not to worry yiostheoy
The internet needs more of you, not less!
Or we'd all be reduced to speaking in terms of
"LOL" "OMG" and "WTF"

 

[yiostheoy]

And, if it makes a difference, I firmly BELIEVE that all of humanity descends from a family from Africa.

I read somewhere a study that suggests that the current variety of human genetics can be traced back to only a few thousand people scattered around the world 75,000 years ago after some sort of cataclysmic event that reduced worldwide populations of several hominid species from many millions.


Anyway, the point is that there is no one family to be traced back to. There was interbreeding with extinct hominids over millions of years. Its like saying all dogs can be traced back to one wolf pack.

Not true.

their ancestors were wolves but dingos,jackals, coyotes, foxes, etc., were also involved.

Some ancestors of modern humans were not human at all.

For instance, more than 8% of the human genome is a virus, a part of our own DNA, that has been descending through the human lineage affecting the evolution of the species for about 700,000 years.


The story of Adam is just a story of a more highly evolved form of intelligent life compassionately attempting to civilize educate and refine a person like Kaspar Hauser or Victor of Aveyron , without success.

... got any links for all that ??

How Human Beings Almost Vanished From Earth In 70,000 B.C.

" the technical term is 40 "breeding pairs" (children not included). More likely there was a drastic dip and then 5,000 to 10,000 bedraggled Homo sapiens struggled together in pitiful little clumps hunting and gathering for thousands of years until, in the late Stone Age, we humans began to recover. "


8 Percent of Human Genome Was Inserted By Virus, and May Cause Schizophrenia

Interesting that non human viral DNA within our own genome might affect thoughts in the mind, isn't it?



19 Pieces Of Non-Human DNA Found In Human Genome

"Significance: ...... By examining >2,500 sequenced genomes, we have discovered 19 previously unidentified HERV-K insertions, including an intact provirus without apparent substitutions that would alter viral function, only the second such provirus described. Our results provide a basis for future studies of HERV evolution and implication for disease."



Victor, the Wild Boy of Aveyron

This (the volcano story) is Malthusian.

There has been lots of talk about the present modern end of Malthusianism -- the 10 billion cap on human population capacity of the Earth.

We are supposed to reach 10 billion by 2050.

If I am still alive I will be a Centenarian by then, my kids in their 70's, and my grandkids in their 40's.

I hope they take care of grandpa.

Still this would have nothing to do with God or God-ness.

All of us believe in a Deist Philosophy-God -- not in a Theist Catholic God who sends Mother Mary to appear in cheese sandwiches.

Hi yiostheoy
The way I explain how all this reflects the same universal patterns:
each person is a product of a man and a woman, mother and father,
and we inherit both good and bad influences carried in the conscience or family line of both.

So this affects our psychology, and everyone can reflect or project patterns from our mothers and fathers.

Now COLLECTIVELY the church represents the mother figure
and the state represents the father figure.

So whatever battles we fight in life, start on a personal level,
with our own families, which reflect in our relationships (ESPECIALLY male/female relations that are the most sensitive for control and communication issues to manifest), and THEN COLLECTIVELY
in our relations with institutions including church and state authority.

We either project local issues GLOBALLY
or we let collective influences affect us individually.

The two levels are connected:
individual
collective
and the CONSCIENCE or RELATIONSHIP joining
these two levels.

So THAT'S WHAT the trinity represents.
collective level symbolized by God
as collective truth/authority/will/universe/life/laws or forces of nature etc.
and
local level of humanity
where "Jesus" or laws of justice
join the laws of man/individually
with the universal laws of God/collectively

The laws we try to etch out either using church religious laws
or state secular laws are ATTEMPTS to define and manage
the RELATIONSHIP between the individual and the collective level.

So all religions are are LANGUAGES for these laws.
But they can be expressed using science, psychology,
civil laws of governance and democratic process between
individual people and collective state govt, etc.

Wow !!

Damn you're smart emilynghiem .

I am going to guess you have a lot of formal education in Sociology and/or Anthropology.

For me, the Catholic Church was my mother and the USMC was my father sort of just like you said only more specifically.

Like all females however, the Mother Church manipulates and uses little white lies, such as original sin and confessional guilt.

I stopped confessing to Priests a long time ago when I decided it was none of their business.

And the USMC was a cruel father -- get tough or die -- dog eat dog -- kill or be killed. I did learn a lot about small unit (squad, platoon, company) tactics and how to shoot very straight with carbine and/or pistol (the pistol is for close up -- the carbine is for CQB and for further away out to about 500 yards -- quarter of a mile).

Now I no longer trust either one however -- the Catholic Church or the USMC. Other Catholics call me a heretic and other Jarheads call me a traitor. It's sort of like when you find out your dad is really Santa Claus and your mom is the Tooth Faeirie.

I rely on my inner voice and on Philosophy now.

For me, I am totally free -- no more brainwashing (from now on the first and last words out of your filthy mouths will be Sir! / in nomine patris et filii et spiritus sancti).

Death and taxes -- those are the only two absolutes now for me.

And like any good evangelist (effaggellos in Greek -- means good messenger) I try to spread the word about Philosophy ... and Freedom.

I still love the USA however love is an emotional reaction and not a rational one. I appreciate that Canucks love Canada, Latinos love Mexico, Rooskies love Russia, Chinks love China, etc.

 

[yiostheoy]

Can't tell what you are trying to say.

oh well

You need to fix it.

lol
no I don't,
I don't have to fix shit!

Weyel, speakin' o' sheot ... ya' betta' wipes yo' azz when ya' does it.

An' ya' can eat the peanuts otta my sheot anytime yo' hungry too.

Hugs and kisses !!!

 

[emilynghiem]

Can't tell what you are trying to say.

oh well

You need to fix it.

lol
no I don't,
I don't have to fix shit!

Weyel, speakin' o' sheot ... ya' betta' wipes yo' azz when ya' does it.

An' ya' can eat the peanuts otta my sheot anytime yo' hungry too.

^ LOL OMG WTFFF??? ^

 

[yiostheoy]

Can't tell what you are trying to say.

oh well

You need to fix it.

lol
no I don't,
I don't have to fix shit!

Weyel, speakin' o' sheot ... ya' betta' wipes yo' azz when ya' does it.

An' ya' can eat the peanuts otta my sheot anytime yo' hungry too.

^ LOL OMG WTFFF??? ^

Well he/she/it keepitreal brought up / mentioned sheot ... his/her/its favorite subject obviously.

It's sort of like when miketx talks about his d!ck and/or his azzhole.

People always mention the thing / things they love the most.

 

[keepitreal]

And, if it makes a difference, I firmly BELIEVE that all of humanity descends from a family from Africa.

I read somewhere a study that suggests that the current variety of human genetics can be traced back to only a few thousand people scattered around the world 75,000 years ago after some sort of cataclysmic event that reduced worldwide populations of several hominid species from many millions.


Anyway, the point is that there is no one family to be traced back to. There was interbreeding with extinct hominids over millions of years. Its like saying all dogs can be traced back to one wolf pack.

Not true.

their ancestors were wolves but dingos,jackals, coyotes, foxes, etc., were also involved.

Some ancestors of modern humans were not human at all.

For instance, more than 8% of the human genome is a virus, a part of our own DNA, that has been descending through the human lineage affecting the evolution of the species for about 700,000 years.


The story of Adam is just a story of a more highly evolved form of intelligent life compassionately attempting to civilize educate and refine a person like Kaspar Hauser or Victor of Aveyron , without success.

... got any links for all that ??

How Human Beings Almost Vanished From Earth In 70,000 B.C.

" the technical term is 40 "breeding pairs" (children not included). More likely there was a drastic dip and then 5,000 to 10,000 bedraggled Homo sapiens struggled together in pitiful little clumps hunting and gathering for thousands of years until, in the late Stone Age, we humans began to recover. "


8 Percent of Human Genome Was Inserted By Virus, and May Cause Schizophrenia

Interesting that non human viral DNA within our own genome might affect thoughts in the mind, isn't it?



19 Pieces Of Non-Human DNA Found In Human Genome

"Significance: ...... By examining >2,500 sequenced genomes, we have discovered 19 previously unidentified HERV-K insertions, including an intact provirus without apparent substitutions that would alter viral function, only the second such provirus described. Our results provide a basis for future studies of HERV evolution and implication for disease."



Victor, the Wild Boy of Aveyron

This (the volcano story) is Malthusian.

There has been lots of talk about the present modern end of Malthusianism -- the 10 billion cap on human population capacity of the Earth.

We are supposed to reach 10 billion by 2050.

If I am still alive I will be a Centenarian by then, my kids in their 70's, and my grandkids in their 40's.

I hope they take care of grandpa.

Still this would have nothing to do with God or God-ness.

All of us believe in a Deist Philosophy-God -- not in a Theist Catholic God who sends Mother Mary to appear in cheese sandwiches.

Hi yiostheoy
The way I explain how all this reflects the same universal patterns:
each person is a product of a man and a woman, mother and father,
and we inherit both good and bad influences carried in the conscience or family line of both.

So this affects our psychology, and everyone can reflect or project patterns from our mothers and fathers.

Now COLLECTIVELY the church represents the mother figure
and the state represents the father figure.

So whatever battles we fight in life, start on a personal level,
with our own families, which reflect in our relationships (ESPECIALLY male/female relations that are the most sensitive for control and communication issues to manifest), and THEN COLLECTIVELY
in our relations with institutions including church and state authority.

We either project local issues GLOBALLY
or we let collective influences affect us individually.

The two levels are connected:
individual
collective
and the CONSCIENCE or RELATIONSHIP joining
these two levels.

So THAT'S WHAT the trinity represents.
collective level symbolized by God
as collective truth/authority/will/universe/life/laws or forces of nature etc.
and
local level of humanity
where "Jesus" or laws of justice
join the laws of man/individually
with the universal laws of God/collectively

The laws we try to etch out either using church religious laws
or state secular laws are ATTEMPTS to define and manage
the RELATIONSHIP between the individual and the collective level.

So all religions are are LANGUAGES for these laws.
But they can be expressed using science, psychology,
civil laws of governance and democratic process between
individual people and collective state govt, etc.

Omg...I don't even know how to respond to this!

We learn behavior, not inherit it.

The Trinity IS NOT a representative of anything,
nor, is even close to what you have claimed!

Religion is a belief, language is a system of communication

 

[yiostheoy]

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We learn behavior, not inherit it.

The Trinity IS NOT a representative of anything,
nor, is even close to what you have claimed!

Religion is a belief, language is a system of communication

The FBI crime manuals do give credit to the notion of a "bad seed" genetic trait for serial killers by the way.

The bad seed tends to run in families and shows up every generation or two.

 

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The story of Adam is just a story of a more highly evolved form of intelligent life compassionately attempting to civilize educate and refine a person like Kaspar Hauser or Victor of Aveyron , without success.

Western Civilization says otherwise.

LOL...Yeah well apparently western civilization knows nothing about how to comprehend the hidden teachings of ancient Hebrew fairy tales that use such complicated metaphors as trees whose fruit is pleasing to the eye and good to eat, the forbidden fruit, clean and unclean, angels and demons, and gullible unsophisticated people who do not think very deeply being deceived in very subtle ways by talking serpents..

Heck, you could be the star of a new fairy tale!


Once upon a millisecond before the old world came to a sudden and abrupt end, there was a slug of distinguished pretensions named Ding who thought that he had found safety living in a crevice among the rocks and caves with every other foul and loathsome creature that nested in dark and dingy places . He was an odd fellow who loved to cover himself with rancid slime and filth and ask the all the other creepy creatures there if they liked his fancy new perfume.......

Western Civilization knows that Christianity has done much good for the world. The signs are all around us, from the laws that protect us, to the principles that guide us. It has shaped every area of our lives, its influence is so huge, jack-a-napes like yourself take its heritage for granted and forget that Christianity was the source of our civilization. So you go right ahead and bad mouth it and reveal to everyone just how much of a dumbass you are while you and Czernobog, Breezewood, et al circle jerk yourselves.

 

[hobelim]

The story of Adam is just a story of a more highly evolved form of intelligent life compassionately attempting to civilize educate and refine a person like Kaspar Hauser or Victor of Aveyron , without success.

Western Civilization says otherwise.

LOL...Yeah well apparently western civilization knows nothing about how to comprehend the hidden teachings of ancient Hebrew fairy tales that use such complicated metaphors as trees whose fruit is pleasing to the eye and good to eat, the forbidden fruit, clean and unclean, angels and demons, and gullible unsophisticated people who do not think very deeply being deceived in very subtle ways by talking serpents..

Heck, you could be the star of a new fairy tale!


Once upon a millisecond before the old world came to a sudden and abrupt end, there was a slug of distinguished pretensions named Ding who thought that he had found safety living in a crevice among the rocks and caves with every other foul and loathsome creature that nested in dark and dingy places . He was an odd fellow who loved to cover himself with rancid slime and filth and ask the all the other creepy creatures there if they liked his fancy new perfume.......

Western Civilization knows that Christianity has done much good for the world. The signs are all around us, from the laws that protect us, to the principles that guide us. It has shaped every area of our lives, its influence is so huge, jack-a-napes like yourself take its heritage for granted and forget that Christianity was the source of our civilization. So you go right ahead and bad mouth it and reveal to everyone just how much of a dumbass you are while you and Czernobog, Breezewood, et al circle jerk yourselves.

Christianity is the source of this civilization?

Really?

I didn't realize that Christianity established democracy before the Greeks and had a senate before the Romans.

And I didn't know that Christianity protects the rights of women to be equal to men, promotes the free expression of any religious belief or unbelief as well.

Amazing!

You guys are hero's and legends, but only in your own unrestrained, defiled and contaminated minds..

 

[ding]

The story of Adam is just a story of a more highly evolved form of intelligent life compassionately attempting to civilize educate and refine a person like Kaspar Hauser or Victor of Aveyron , without success.

Western Civilization says otherwise.

LOL...Yeah well apparently western civilization knows nothing about how to comprehend the hidden teachings of ancient Hebrew fairy tales that use such complicated metaphors as trees whose fruit is pleasing to the eye and good to eat, the forbidden fruit, clean and unclean, angels and demons, and gullible unsophisticated people who do not think very deeply being deceived in very subtle ways by talking serpents..

Heck, you could be the star of a new fairy tale!


Once upon a millisecond before the old world came to a sudden and abrupt end, there was a slug of distinguished pretensions named Ding who thought that he had found safety living in a crevice among the rocks and caves with every other foul and loathsome creature that nested in dark and dingy places . He was an odd fellow who loved to cover himself with rancid slime and filth and ask the all the other creepy creatures there if they liked his fancy new perfume.......

Western Civilization knows that Christianity has done much good for the world. The signs are all around us, from the laws that protect us, to the principles that guide us. It has shaped every area of our lives, its influence is so huge, jack-a-napes like yourself take its heritage for granted and forget that Christianity was the source of our civilization. So you go right ahead and bad mouth it and reveal to everyone just how much of a dumbass you are while you and Czernobog, Breezewood, et al circle jerk yourselves.

Christianity is the source of this civilization?

Really?

I didn't realize that Christianity established democracy before the Greeks and had a senate before the Romans.

And I didn't know that Christianity protects the rights of women to be equal to men, promotes the free expression of any religious belief or unbelief as well.

Amazing!

You guys are hero's and legends, but only in your own unrestrained, defiled and contaminated minds..

Yes, you have proven to me that there is much you don't realize.

"Christianity led to the end of murder of slaves in the coliseums of the Roman world, the beginning of healthcare for the masses and education for the common man. It brought an end to the slave trade and slavery itself. It brought workers’ rights through Lord Shaftesbury, and child protection agencies, like the RSPCC by William Wilberforce and other Christian leaders. Christianity also birthed the Civil Rights Movement with the leader being the preacher Martin Luther King Jr. and the end of Apartheid in South Africa, thanks to the leadership of Archbishop Desmond Tutu and Nelson Mandela."

What has Christianity done for the world?