I Don't Understand This About Iran

[alang1216]

Then Iran offered to halt any further enrichment for 5 years. Why? Do they want to enrich Uranium to weapons grade after 5 years? Why, if their program is for peaceful purposes?

Maybe they feel 'peace' means having nukes so you don't keep getting attacked by Israel or the US?

 

[meaner gene]

Special operations forces with limited well defined objectives, no a large scale invasion force.

You missed the $1-2 billion dollars a day in weapons we unleashed against Iran.

That's more than we unleashed against North Vietnam at the height of the war.

 

[Concerned American]

Maybe they feel 'peace' means having nukes so you don't keep getting attacked by Israel or the US?

Nice try. After 47 years of Iran's threats and covert terrorist attacks on the world, inept, but nice try anyway. We won't even discuss their petulant attacks on their uninvolved neighbors during this latest skirmish.

 

[meaner gene]

Special operations forces with limited well defined objectives, no a large scale invasion force.

At its peak in the late 1960s, the Vietnam War cost the United States approximately $20 billion to $30 billion per year, which breaks down to roughly $55 million to $82 million per day.

 

[toomuchtime_]

You missed the $1-2 billion dollars a day in weapons we unleashed against Iran.

That's more than we unleashed against North Vietnam at the height of the war.

I didn't miss anything; there are no plans for a large scale invasion in Iran, making this war fundamentally different from the wars in Iraq and Vietnam.

Iran is much larger than Vietnam and prices have gone up since that 1960's, so if you want to compare the bombing in Vietnam to the bombing in Iran, you should compare the explosive power of the bombs dropped, not the cost.

 

[alang1216]

Nice try. After 47 years of Iran's threats and covert terrorist attacks on the world, inept, but nice try anyway. We won't even discuss their petulant attacks on their uninvolved neighbors during this latest skirmish.

I have no love for them nor do I defend their actions, I'm only putting myself in their heads and thinking what they might do. I don't like what I see. They are just as bad but no one attacks North Korea for only one reason, nukes.

 

[meaner gene]

I didn't miss anything; there are no plans for a large scale invasion in Iran, making this war fundamentally different from the wars in Iraq and Vietnam.

Congratulations. You admit the US is at WAR with Iran.

That was easy.

 

[meaner gene]

Iran is much larger than Vietnam and prices have gone up since that 1960's, so if you want to compare the bombing in Vietnam to the bombing in Iran, you should compare the explosive power of the bombs dropped, not the cost.

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Iran cost $1-2 billion per day.

Vietnam at it's height, adjusted for inflation was under $0.8 billion.

 

[toomuchtime_]

At its peak in the late 1960s, the Vietnam War cost the United States approximately $20 billion to $30 billion per year, which breaks down to roughly $55 million to $82 million per day.

And how much did haircuts cost back in the day?

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Iran cost $1-2 billion per day.

Vietnam at it's height, adjusted for inflation was under $0.8 billion.

The US gdp is 30 times the size it was in the late 1960's so the US can afford to spend more on its foreign policy.

 

[meaner gene]

Iran is much larger than Vietnam and prices have gone up since that 1960's, so if you want to compare the bombing in Vietnam to the bombing in Iran, you should compare the explosive power of the bombs dropped, not the cost.

Today in Iran:

As of late March and early April 2026, U.S. B-52 Stratofortress bombers are conducting intensive, sustained overland missions in Iran, targeting IRGC command centers, drone factories, and deep underground missile facilities.

Before in Vietnam:

Operation Linebacker II,

the bombing campaign on 18 December. Conducted by more than 200 B-52 bombers from Strategic Air Command

 

[meaner gene]

And how much did haircuts cost back in the day?

The US gdp is 30 times the size it was in the late 1960's so the US can afford to spend more on its foreign policy.

Haircuts and GDP, when the bottom line is the war in Iran is bigger than the height of the Vietnam war.

 

[toobfreak]

They say their nuclear program is for peaceful purposes and yet they enriched Uranium to far beyond that level, very close to weapons grade.
They had been refusing to hand over the excessively enriched Uranium. Why? Why do they need near weapons grade Uranium?

Simple. They want nuclear bombs both to destroy Israel with as they have promised for decades along with hitting the Great Devil the USA. Along with that, they have a long list of people in America on their assassination list.

The other reason is because they know having nukes would give them a shield, an umbrella of protection on which to keep building up their military and threat capability.

Killing us means more to them than their own lives, the lives of their people, or even the health and well-being of their own country. Iran is the Hatfields to our McCoys, and they have sworn defeating us with their last breath.

 

[meaner gene]

Simple. They want nuclear bombs both to destroy Israel with as they have promised for decades along with hitting the Great Devil the USA. Along with that, they have a long list of people in America on their assassination list.

The other reason is because they know having nukes would give them a shield, an umbrella of protection on which to keep building up their military and threat capability.

Killing us means more to them than their own lives, the lives of their people, or even the health and well-being of their own country. Iran is the Hatfields to our McCoys, and they have sworn defeating us with their last breath.

Explain why Iran has had that capability for the last 25 years, and hasn't carried out any of the things you claim they are hell bent on carrying out.

They haven't even reached high enough enrichment to make even a crude nuclear weapon.

 

[toobfreak]

Explain why Iran has had that capability for the last 25 years,

Because they haven't had that capability these last 25 years; for the last 25 years they have been seeking to develop it.

and hasn't carried out any of the things you claim they are hell bent on carrying out.

But they have carried many of these things out. They've killed thousands of Americans, they have made attempts on president's lives, they hit the US Cole, they've attacked a dozen countries in the area, they've tried to cut off and control the global oil supply as a weapon, and they have been supplying, organizing and funding terrorism around the world including their immediate proxies Hamas, Hezbollah and Houthis attacking Israel.

They haven't even reached high enough enrichment to make even a crude nuclear weapon.

But they have. They had over 400 pounds of 60% U235 enriched uranium. That is already weapons grade. That can easily be spun up rather quickly into high-quality top weapons grade with is 85% or higher, their main issue is building the motors for the delivery system, and we see now they had at least one medium range missile capable of striking as far away as Paris which is double the range they admitted to.

You sound like the guy on the day before 9/11 doubting warnings of an imminent attack arguing that fears are pointless because we haven't actually been attacked... yet.

THERE IS NO GOOD REASON why these people are enriching hundreds of pounds of weapons grade uranium deep inside mountains far within special, hardened bunkers.

 

[meaner gene]

The irony of history.

Under Saddam Hussein's rule, Israel regarded Iraq as a major security threat. In 1981, Israel carried out Operation Opera, bombing Iraq's Osirak nuclear reactor to halt the development of nuclear weapons.

Throughout the Iran–Iraq War, Israel provided clandestine support to Iran, viewing Iraq as a more serious threat than Iran.

 

[meaner gene]

Because they haven't had that capability these last 25 years; for the last 25 years they have been seeking to develop it.

Iran has been actively enriching uranium since at least early 2006

 

[Robert W]

I define war as boots on the ground.

"Boots on the ground" refers to the physical presence of soldiers, police, or personnel in a specific location to carry out a mission, combat operation,

Military Definition: Troops actively fighting or engaged in a conflict area

Originating as a military term for ground troops,

Me too. Trump has not put boots on the ground in Iran.

 

[toobfreak]

Iran has been actively enriching uranium since at least early 2006

I don't know where you got that information and you offer nothing, but it takes quite a bit to enrich uranium, many very high speed centrifuges, and much support facilities. No one just starts enriching uranium overnight. You start small and keep adding on. These must be spun so fast as to separate U238 from U235 by molecular weight alone and held within an exotic inert gas.

Exactly the reason why Obumma and Biden should be indicted for treason for freely giving these people hundreds of billions of dollars they had no need to.

 

[meaner gene]

But they have. They had over 400 pounds of 60% U235 enriched uranium. That is already weapons grade.

Wrong, you can't make a nuke out of 60%. There's too much U238 with it's much higher spontaneous fission to make a large enough pit that is stable (no spontaneous chain reaction)

 

[meaner gene]

Me too. Trump has not put boots on the ground in Iran.

Based on April 2026 reports, the U.S. successfully rescued two F-15E crew members in Iran after their jet was shot down, with no reported U.S. fatalities during the mission. Iran reported casualties, including 3 Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) members and 4 Iranian Army officers killed, while some U.S. airmen were injured

Sounds like boots on the ground to me.