Zone1 I don't care about the epstein files

[Oddball]

It's a waste of time and resources. Most grown men are hebephiles and love young women, generally from the ages of 12 to 17. Fact is, minors can consent at those ages and we can see that with these girls in the files who willingly got on a jet, and flew thousands of miles in the hopes of bettering their lives. Most of those Eastern European girls are already ran through at that age anyways, and been giving it up for a few rubles to the local slavs. He actaully did them a favor, because $200 to rubles back in 2000, that's a lot of money for a teenaged thot. They're not victims; they try and pimp out powerful men, actually. And when they aren't successful, they cry victim to get a payday. But at the end of the day it's quid pro quo. It's a far cry from some man kidnapping you and brutally r@aping a kid in his van. Unless that happens, it's fully consensual.

And of course teens can consent. When I was a kid, I had grown women proposition me. In my mind I agreed, but logistics wouldn't make it happen. But I would have 100% done it if I could. I told my dad and all he said was "you just gotta be careful". If I was a girl, he'd likely be outraged. It's common for fathers to joke and aspire for their male children to have sex with their hot Science teacher. Yet when it comes to girls it's a whole different story; a huge contradiction at best, sexism at worst. Yes, most of this isn't about pedophilia, but about territorialism and dominance. Young girls are seen as property, it really doesn't have anything to do with the morality aspect of it. Everyone wants to f*** someone else's daughter, but no one wants their own daughter to get f*****, you know what I mean?

But, on a biological level, girls were created to be devoured. Literally. The silverback defeats his rivals in combat and is rewarded with is own harem. He makes no distinction between young and old. He did what he needed to do and was rewarded. The same should be the case for men in acquiring wealth and resources. The reward: Young girls. Fertile and in their prime. They were created to be devoured by grown, powerful men. And I don't care. Even the girls don't care, which is why they willingly got flown out to Epstein Island. None of this would be remotely controversial just 100 years ago. You had grown white men singing their hearts out about loving 16 year olds and it made the top 10 billboards lol. It's even common in many countries today(Islamic countries, 8 years old, she's good to go). And we aren't even talking about 8 years old, but basically grown women. People crying about a 16 year old doing what she would otherwise naturally do with other 16 year olds. Hearing grown men decry such things has to be the most feminine, gynocentric stuff I've ever heard. Legalize it and regulate it.

So we can mark you down as being disinterested in child traffic and sexual abuse of women and children.

 

[Chuz Life]

The age of consent in Florida is 18. When a policymaker screws jailbait he leaves himself open for blackmail.

That to me is the second strongest reason why I want full disclosure on the Epstein matter.

Number one, being that I want any and all human traffickers (and Johns) who were involved to be castrated and impaled.

 

[WeThePeople123]

So we can mark you down as being disinterested in child traffic and sexual abuse of women and children.

The term trafficking can be very vague at times. Sending a girl 300 to come across state lines and have sex is considered trafficking. I define trafficking as being forced to do something against your will. I don't think flying out to Epstein island of your own volition meets that standard. I don't doubt some of the parents even knew about it. Legally, children are your property until 18.

 

[Chuz Life]

Legally, children are your property until 18.

I call.

I'm going to need to see legal proof or strong evidence to support a claim like that.

 

[WeThePeople123]

That to me is the second strongest reason, I want full disclosure on the Epstein matter.

Number one, being that I want any and all human traffickers (and Johns) who were involved to be castrated and impaled.

Human trafficking is a vague term. Even in cases with child pornography, the "traffickers" had parental consent. The place where Epstein sourced his girls was Eastern Europe. There was a high profile case involving the production of child porn called LS island, and when the photographers got caught, most of the parents refused to press charges.

The underlying reason is because of poverty, I have no doubt that epstein was likely paying them x10 what they could make in Russia/Ukraine. If you throw the Johns in jail, in some countries these kids literally just starve to death. How virtuous of you. Make it legal and regulate it. Less coercion, less poverty.

 

[Hellbilly]

YES ITS ALL POLITICAL, RICH OLD MEN have abused women useing money & power forever.
EPSTEIN just a new trick to grab money.

They used to feed Christians to the lions.
Wanna bring it back?

 

[Chuz Life]

Human trafficking is a vague term. Even in cases with child pornography, the "traffickers" had parental consent. The place where Epstein sourced his girls was Eastern Europe. There was a high profile case involving the production of child porn called LS island, and when the photographers got caught, most of the parents refused to press charges.

The underlying reason is because of poverty, I have no doubt that epstein was likely paying them x10 what they could make in Russia/Ukraine. If you throw the Johns in jail, in some countries these kids literally just starve to death. How virtuous of you. Make it legal and regulate it. Less coercion, less poverty.

Nice rant, but it doesn't support your claim that child are "legally the property of their parents until 18."

 

[Thinker101]

Nice rant, but it doesn't support your claim that child are "legally the property of their parents until 18."

Dunno about legally the property, definitely legally the responsibility of the parents.

 

[Chuz Life]

Dunno about legally the property, definitely legally the responsibility of the parents.

The legal responsibility is to (Fiduciary) act in the best interest of the child or children, though. Isn't it?

 

[WeThePeople123]

Nice rant, but it doesn't support your claim that child are "legally the property of their parents until 18."

That wasn't really in response to that. I don't really care to substantiate that. If they are not legal property, then they should be able to have autonomy for their actions, including flying in jets to an old man's house.

 

[WeThePeople123]

Dunno about legally the property, definitely legally the responsibility of the parents.

If they're old enough to kill someone in a driving accident, they're old enough to take deeek.

 

[Chuz Life]

That wasn't really in response to that. I don't really care to substantiate that. If they are not legal property, then they should be able to have autonomy for their actions, including flying in jets to an old man's house.

You literally claimed that children are the property of their parents until 18.

Are you retracting that now?

 

[Thinker101]

The legal responsibility is to (Fiduciary) act in the best interest of the child or children, though. Isn't it?

That's true, but we all know there are parents who don't care about anyone's interest other than their own.

 

[Chuz Life]

That's true, but we all know there are parents who don't care about anyone's interest other than their own.

Ok. . . if we are just going to keep reverting to platitudes and not staying on point, I don't see the benefit to keep doing so.

 

[WeThePeople123]

You literally claimed that children are the property of their parents until 18.

Are you retracting that now?

They are. Let's move on because it doesn't really matter. Trump can say DEI and race based policies are wrong, but he'll still let in south africans on the basis that they are white.


Like your obsession with one innocuous comment about property, the epstein files are a waste of time. From what I see, I don't see any indication that they were forced and Epstein was given consent. We should focus on climate change, something that will make far more child prostitutes in the coming decades. Do you agree?

 

[JustAnotherNut]

Many of his victims were from the US, not just Eastern Europe.

Teens, and even young adults are quite impressionable and naive. Those growing up in dysfunctional homes or struggling with teen issues can be quite susceptible to persuasion. The 'bad guys' can spot the vulnerable in a crowd and is easy pickings. This happens all the time with runaway girls that some pimp or whoever promises to take care of her and love her and and and.....they get them hooked on drugs and demand they 'work' for their keep. Doesn't matter if it's on ghetto back streets or the penthouse jet set elites. This is how they are 'willing' to perform, until they wake up and realize....or have had enough of the situation, but are then trapped with little or no way out.


It should also be concerning of Epsteins obvious interest in even younger girls and toddlers, as well as his other interests and involvements.

Anyone who is fine with that ^^^ is one very sick individual

 

[0311]

Of course you do not care, except when you do.

 

[WeThePeople123]

Many of his victims were from the US, not just Eastern Europe.

Teens, and even young adults are quite impressionable and naive. Those growing up in dysfunctional homes or struggling with teen issues can be quite susceptible to persuasion. The 'bad guys' can spot the vulnerable in a crowd and is easy pickings. This happens all the time with runaway girls that some pimp or whoever promises to take care of her and love her and and and.....they get them hooked on drugs and demand they 'work' for their keep. Doesn't matter if it's on ghetto back streets or the penthouse jet set elites. This is how they are 'willing' to perform, until they wake up and realize....or have had enough of the situation, but are then trapped with little or no way out.


It should also be concerning of Epsteins obvious interest in even younger girls and toddlers, as well as his other interests and involvements.

Anyone who is fine with that ^^^ is one very sick individual

I don't agree that just because you have sex with a rich and powerful man, at hopes of making yourself more rich and powerful, means you have daddy issues. When I was 16, I would love to have sex AND get paid for it. You guys only care when it's girls doing this, not boys. The only thing you care about is some abstract visual of a big, ugly old man with a pristine girl in her prime. That is what bothers you. Not something coercive actually taking place. Sorry, but you haven't produced any moral or logical arguments outside of the fact that you don't like it. Which is a non argument. We aren't talking about people doing things against their will. Then why should I be offended?

I know you talked about the girls having daddy issues, and even if that were the case, so what? That is the way of the world. Absolutely no one is forcing them to do anything. You think the 60 year old manning the jackhammer in 100 degree Texan heat is there because he is being forced to? He isn't? He isn't. But I do say, I feel more sorry for a 60 year old doing hard labor than I do a girl trying to pimp a rich and powerful man. She would clean every cent out of his bank account if he let her. Again, Trump understands this and it's one trait I admire about him.

You guys put vagina on a pedestal. None of this makes sense if you didn't. A man put his penis in a vagina. Who cares. So long as you didn't force her, I don't care. It's just booty. Evolutionarily and biologically speaking, you're supposed to look for booty. When you start moralizing what is natural, that speaks to society ascribing their own virtues, not the inherent immorality. You think a pitbull mix gives a rip about how old a dog in heat is? He don't care, he want booty.

 

[WeThePeople123]

Of course you do not care, except when you do.

Climate change will produce more child prostitutes.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

Dont Taz Me Bro
So I cant say **** but people can discuss their attraction to 12 year olds?

Take it up with the admins