Zone1 I am stepping away from Judaism

[Donald H]

1300 39. Critical Truth Is Confirmed by Saint Ding:

The civilization at the time of the American Revolution basically did not recognize the concept of sanctity of life beginning at conception ; it began at quickening​

Notice to all hyper-sensitive persons about bullying and name-calling, a “saint” by my use of definition is “one eminent for virtue” in an informal sense. I use it to distinguish voters into two politically opposed groups. Saints vote moral monocultural issues first versus Voters who vote working class multicultural issues first. That’s All Folks!

i. ding said: Because abortion is a crime. dvng 122407 Siadaf01291

ii. Meriweather mcccxxvi. : The government decriminalized abortion, and following the Milgram experiment, the majority of society agreed since Authority spoke, it is okay to kill new human life. mrwthr 241207 Siasaf01326

iii. ding mcccxxix to 1326. : Out of curiosity... what was the punishment before it was decriminalized and when were those laws written? dvng 241207 Siasaf01329

iv.a. Meriweather mcccxxxv. : I do not know a lot about that. What I remember is that abortion was not all that unusual in Colonial America through about the mid 1800s. mrwthr 241308 Sissaf01335

iv.b. Meriweather mcccxxxv. : found it interesting that people began to protest the practice at the time of the Civil War, mrwthr 241308 Sissaf01335

v. ding mcccxxx : In colonial times abortion was considered a morality issue, not a criminal one. . dvng 241207 Siasaf01330

vi. ding mcccxxxi. : In the British colonies abortions were legal if they were performed prior to quickening. Abortion in early America - PubMed. ¥. dvng 241207 Siasaf01331

vii. Monk-Eye mxxxvii. : The blackmun decision followed us constitution and originalism for the relationship between a citizen and a state , as the instantiation of both required a live birth , where by an ability for a fetus to survive an imminent live birth at natural viability was substituted in lieu of a live birth requirement . mvnkvyv 241208 Srwbsw01037

viii. NotfooledbyW mcccxxviii to 1326. : The government did not decriminalize abortion in 1973. English common law did not criminalize abortion in the original 13 colonies. The civilization at the time of the American Revolution basically did not recognize the concept of sanctity of life beginning at conception. if a woman wanted to do so there was like an unwritten code of midwives which took care of such things.

The question in 1973 was whether women who wanted an abortion should have safe access to modern medicine that is regulated by the states. Legalizing the procedure was performed for fifty years with absolutely no detrimental effect on the moral capacity of America’s civilized and law abiding population.

Your argument is overtly Catholic and dishonest in a secular society, when you use phrases like “society agreed since Authority spoke, it is okay to kill new human life.”

That’s Catholic and white Christian nationalist propaganda, which has propelled a complete anti-abortion industry in this country to the benefit of our billionaires who lean into Trump’s culture war populism to win benefits for their class.

Society has never agreed that it’s OK to kill new human life among people who have been born.. And never will.

Only the Catholic Church responded to modern medical abortion procedures as unwelcome in a moral society and therefore must be banned by moral people in the government. nfbw 242207 Viasaf01328

America's justice system has taken a step toward approving vigilante justice with the Penney verdict, l

This could cause the political left in America to perform an abortion at the 36th. week, in defiance of conservative values.

And then if Trump really does pardon all the Jan. 6th. convicted and jailed criminals??

Regardless of which side is right, doesn't really matter that much. Battle lines are being drawn and death will be meted out by both sides through the barrels of their guns.

Where are the Christians who are ready to claim what is coming over the American people, as Christianity's own?

Its possible that they've already taken too many swings and misses at predicting the rapture, and have become hesitant and shy?

 

[ding]

Critical Truth Is Confirmed by Saint Ding:

How many times do I have to tell you I'm no saint?

Truth is discovered. The truth is that abortion is a crime. But given the complexity of the issue, the punishment for that crime should be minimal. Such as a Class C misdemeanor with no jail time.

Isn't that a wonderful compromise?

 

[ding]

This could cause the political left in America to perform an abortion at the 36th. week, in defiance of conservative values.

That would be pretty dangerous for the woman and quite messy for those performing the abortion.

 

[whutTHEYsay]

While I doubt it matters to one who bullies, I am ignoring you once again. Strike Two. Any post/word from you sails right past me into the ether. In a year or so, you will (perhaps) be given one last chance, but my experience with you is one where you take posts out of context, needle, twist, refuse correction--and not worth the bother. I expect a strike out, which will happen the instant I get notice you responded to this post. Good day. mrwthr 241209 Siasaf01340

Truth is discovered.

iv.a. Meriweather mcccxxxv. : I do not know a lot about that. What I remember is that abortion was not all that unusual in Colonial America through about the mid 1800s. mrwthr 241308 Sissaf01335

iv.b. Meriweather mcccxxxv. : found it interesting that people began to protest the practice at the time of the Civil War, mrwthr 241308 Sissaf01335

v. ding mcccxxx : In colonial times abortion was considered a morality issue, not a criminal one. . dvng 241207 Siasaf01330

vi. ding mcccxxxi. : In the British colonies abortions were legal if they were performed prior to quickening. Abortion in early America - PubMed. ¥. dvng 241207 Siasaf01331

I’m glad both of you discovered that a woman who seeks an abortion is not committing a crime or misdemeanor and is not a menace to society and never was.

 

[ding]

I’m glad both of you discovered that a woman who seeks an abortion is not committing a crime or misdemeanor and is not a menace to society and never was.

I agree with the latter but not the former.

My position is that abortion is a crime and given the complexity of the issue the punishment for that crime should be minimal... as in a class C misdemeanor with NO JAIL TIME.

 

[whutTHEYsay]

i. NotfooledbyW mcccxlvi. : I’m glad both of you discovered that a woman who seeks an abortion is not committing a crime or misdemeanor and is not a menace to society and never was. nfbw 241309 Viasaf01344

ii. ding mcccxlv : I agree with the latter but not the former. dvng 242211 Siasaf01345

iii. NotfooledbyW mcccxlvi. to 1345. : Abortion was safe legal and accessible in all fifty states for fifty years and you cannot for the life of you Sir Sanctimonious Supercilious Ding, name one time when a woman who aborted her own fetus who was at the time or became anytime afterward, a menace to society.

iv. Meriweather mcccxxvi. : The governmet decriminalized abortion, and following the Milgram experiment, the majority of society agreed since Authority spoke, it is okay to kill new human life. mrwthr 241207 Siasaf01326

v. ding mcccxxix to 1326. : Out of curiosity... what was the punishment before it was decriminalized and when were those laws written? dvng 241207 Siasaf01329

vi.a. Meriweather mcccxxxv. : I do not know a lot about that. What I remember is that abortion was not all that unusual in Colonial America through about the mid 1800s. mrwthr 241308 Sissaf01335

vi.b Meriweather mcccxxxv. : I found it interesting that people began to protest the practice at the time of the Civil War, mrwthr 241308 Sissaf01335

vii. ding mcccxxx : In colonial times abortion was considered a morality issue, not a criminal one. . dvng 241207 Siasaf01330

viii. ding mcccxxxi. : In the British colonies abortions were legal if they were performed prior to quickening. Abortion in early America - PubMed. ¥. dvng 241207 Siasaf01331

viii. NotfooledbyW mcccxxviii to 1326. : The government did not decriminalize abortion in 1973. English common law did not criminalize abortion in the original 13 colonies. The civilization at the time of the American Revolution basically did not recognize the concept of sanctity of life beginning at conception. if a woman wanted to do so there was like an unwritten code of midwives which took care of such things.

ix. NotfooledbyW mcccxlvi. to 1345 : My argument is this Supercilious Ding; A woman cannot be charged with a crime or misdemeanor for aborting her own fetus ln a safe and legal manner. It never was a criime and never should be because such an act in privacy is not by an actor whom is in any way shape or form to be considered a menace to society. nfbw 241211 Viasaf01346

 

[BreezeWood]

I agree with the latter but not the former.

My position is that abortion is a crime and given the complexity of the issue the punishment for that crime should be minimal... as in a class C misdemeanor with NO JAIL TIME.

are you a reincarnation ...

Puritan Massachusetts Bay Colony during the years 1642 to 1649 ... As punishment, she must wear a scarlet letter 'A' .

since the 4th century, persecution and victimization of the innocent ... for their "minimal crime".

moses rises again their phony commandments and those that excel in their enforcement.

The Salem witch trials were a series of hearings and executions that took place in colonial Massachusetts between February 1692 and May 1693:

oh, were any of the accusers christian by chance ... the nostalgia runs deep for some.

Hester Prynne, who conceives a daughter with a man to whom she is not married and then struggles to create a new life of repentance and dignity. As punishment, she must wear a scarlet letter 'A' (for "adultery").

 

[whutTHEYsay]

i. BreezeWood mcccxlvii. to 1345 provided an example of 17th century British imperial Christianity in the New World : Hester Prynne, who conceives a daughter with a man to whom she is not married and then struggles to create a new life of repentance and dignity. As punishment, she must wear a scarlet letter 'A' (for "adultery"). brzwd 24121 Viasaf01347

ii. NotfooledbyW mcccxlviii. to 1347. : Supercilious Ding wants the Menstruation Cycle Police to issue misdemeanor tickets to girls and women when they abort a fetus so that Supercilious Ding can know that the girls who have abortions know that their behavior is not acceptable to Supercilious Ding.

Supercilious Ding is hoping to make British Imperial Christian Heritage Great Again by imposing his medieval Catholic beliefs on modern secular society. Who knows why. It’s rather weird. nfbw 241211 Viasaf01348

 

[ding]

are you a reincarnation ...



since the 4th century, persecution and victimization of the innocent ... for their "minimal crime".

moses rises again their phony commandments and those that excel in their enforcement.



oh, were any of the accusers christian by chance ... the nostalgia runs deep for some.

My position is that abortion is a crime and given the complexity of the issue the punishment for that crime should be minimal... as in a class C misdemeanor with NO JAIL TIME.

 

[ding]

Supercilious Ding is hoping to make British Imperial Christian Heritage Great Again by imposing his medieval Catholic beliefs on modern secular society. Who knows why. It’s rather weird. nfbw 241211 Viasaf01348

My position is that abortion is a crime and given the complexity of the issue the punishment for that crime should be minimal... as in a class C misdemeanor with NO JAIL TIME.

 

[ding]

My argument is this Supercilious Ding; A woman cannot be charged with a crime or misdemeanor for aborting her own fetus ln a safe and legal manner. It never was a criime and never should be because such an act in privacy is not by an actor whom is in any way shape or form to be considered a menace to society. nfbw 241211 Viasaf01346

My position is that abortion is a crime and given the complexity of the issue the punishment for that crime should be minimal... as in a class C misdemeanor with NO JAIL TIME.

 

[whutTHEYsay]

My position is that abortion is a crime

Your position is that you want safe legal abortion to be a crime for no reason other than you want it to be s crime. You want women to die in childbirth when you say abortion must be understood as a crime.

 

[BreezeWood]

My position is that abortion is a crime and given the complexity of the issue the punishment for that crime should be minimal... as in a class C misdemeanor with NO JAIL TIME.

moses rises again their phony commandments and those that excel in their enforcement.

the misogyny of your religion, christianity is well established.

Hester Prynne, who conceives a daughter with a man to whom she is not married and then struggles to create a new life of repentance and dignity. As punishment, she must wear a scarlet letter 'A' (for "adultery").

its to bad the desert religions have fostered their predators than entrusting those who have been their victims - throughout recorded history.

 

[whutTHEYsay]

NO JAIL TIM

Arent you special Supercilious Ding!!!!!

How will you issue citations to women who terminate pregnancy by taking two pills at home they receive through the mail?

Will you set up a federal bureau of menstruation investigation which will require every female between 11 and 55 to submit weekly pee test results to your office Supercilious Ding so you can be immediately notified every single time a very specific human life is conceived; Swiapz00843. One that has never existed before and will never exist again.?

 

[whutTHEYsay]

i. ding dcccxiii. : What these idiots don't realize is that all I am trying to get them to do is to acknowledge they are ending a very specific human life. One that has never existed before and will never exist again. dvng 241201 Swiapz00843

I acknowledge that every abortion ends a very specific human life. One that has never existed before and will never exist again.

 

[ding]

Your position is that you want safe legal abortion to be a crime for no reason other than you want it to be s crime. You want women to die in childbirth when you say abortion must be understood as a crime.

My position is that abortion is a crime and given the complexity of the issue the punishment for that crime should be minimal... as in a class C misdemeanor with NO JAIL TIME.

 

[ding]

i. ding dcccxiii. : What these idiots don't realize is that all I am trying to get them to do is to acknowledge they are ending a very specific human life. One that has never existed before and will never exist again. dvng 241201 Swiapz00843

I acknowledge that every abortion ends a very specific human life. One that has never existed before and will never exist again.

Great. Now acknowledge that it is wrong to do so.

 

[ding]

Arent you special Supercilious Ding!!!!!

How will you issue citations to women who terminate pregnancy by taking two pills at home they receive through the mail?

Will you set up a federal bureau of menstruation investigation which will require every female between 11 and 55 to submit weekly pee test results to your office Supercilious Ding so you can be immediately notified every single time a very specific human life is conceived; Swiapz00843. One that has never existed before and will never exist again.?

My position is that abortion is a crime and given the complexity of the issue the punishment for that crime should be minimal... as in a class C misdemeanor with NO JAIL TIME.

 

[ding]

the misogyny of your religion, christianity is well established.



its to bad the desert religions have fostered their predators than entrusting those who have been their victims - throughout recorded history.

Life is unfair. Expect to make sacrifices or suffer.

 

[whutTHEYsay]

Great. Now acknowledge that it is wrong to do so.

if a woman chooses to do it in part because she does not want to take one single risk to her life health and pursuit of her happiness that full term pregnancy and giving birth entails; it is not wrong.

and it is none of our business or the government’s business because in no way when you can truthfully and accurately say a woman who terminates her pregnancy will become a menace to society.

I think you are too smothered in the Catholic concept of sin to be both truthful and accurate at the same time about a lot of culture war political issues.

Take the plastic bag off of your head you will breathe easier and become a more gentle and wise person.