Zone1 I am prepared to call Protestantism a cult

[Meriweather]

None of the churches mentioned in the Bible are Catholic.

Hmmm. This would be denying that these churches were not open and welcoming to all, which was the hallmark of all early Christian churches. They were catholic...open and welcoming to all, and hence they became known as the Catholic Church. At Christ's instruction, these churches/congregations were started throughout the land.

 

[forkintheroad7]

My point is that Martin Luther was a Catholic priest who opposed the sale of indulgences--but...Martin Luther was not the only priest who opposed the sale of indulgences. In fact, the Church is on record, shortly before Martin Luther was born, and again about twenty years later, saying indulgences were not to be sold. In opposing Friar Tetzler's sale of indulgences (along with other priests who opposed this), Martin Luther was upholding Catholic Church teaching on indulgences.

obviously not for long. I think he was possessed. Check out the things he said (Facts About Luther).. Also, the dude's name was Tetzel

Luther is not only the Father of Protestantism
He is the Father of Liberalism

(some of us would say: What's the difference?)

 

[Carl in Michigan]

How Many Serious Sins Do Protestants Think A “True Believer” Can Commit?

endtimes.video

This video says it all as to what I and other Traditional Catholics believe (know)

You are both cults. The Protestants cleaned it up somewhat but look how they've fallen.

BTW, the Church of God in Jerusalem was a cult to the Jews of that day. But I stand proudly with that cult the best I can.

 

[Carl in Michigan]

these churches were not open and welcoming to all, which was the hallmark of all early Christian churches

The Church is for the edification of the saints. People are to be welcomed AFTER they show fruit of repentance

 

[Carl in Michigan]

At least I know what evangelicals teach. Most Protestants don't have a clue what Catholicism is.. but act like they know it inside and out. How dishonest can u get?

I know the origin of YOUR church. "Can an evil tree bring forth good fruit?"

 

[The Irish Ram]

Hmmm. This would be denying that these churches were not open and welcoming to all, which was the hallmark of all early Christian churches. They were catholic...open and welcoming to all, and hence they became known as the Catholic Church. At Christ's instruction, these churches/congregations were started throughout the land.

They had nothing to do with Catholicism. There was no such thing. Of course they were open and welcomed new members. They had no Pope, nor was Mary handing out rosaries and telling them to pray to her.

Do you believe that when Christ returns he will set up His Kingdom in Rome? At the Vatican? Will Christ become the last Pope you'll ever need?
.

 

[Meriweather]

They had nothing to do with Catholicism. There was no such thing. Of course they were open and welcomed new members. They had no Pope, nor was Mary handing out rosaries and telling them to pray to her.

Do you believe that when Christ returns he will set up His Kingdom in Rome? At the Vatican? Will Christ become the last Pope you'll ever need?

A follower of Joseph Smith, hmm.

The keys Christ passed on to Peter have been passed to the next keeper of the keys (i.e. Popes) until the King (Christ) returns. Why would Jesus take on a role as servant to himself? Also, for those not aware, scripture speaks of a Holy City, a New Jerusalem. This New Jerusalem is not necessarily a place, but the reality of Christ's rule over his people.

 

[Carl in Michigan]

A follower of Joseph Smith, hmm.

The keys Christ passed on to Peter have been passed to the next keeper of the keys (i.e. Popes) until the King (Christ) returns. Why would Jesus take on a role as servant to himself? Also, for those not aware, scripture speaks of a Holy City, a New Jerusalem. This New Jerusalem is not necessarily a place, but the reality of Christ's rule over his people.

Jesus, along with the resurrected saints, will land on the Mount of Olives. They will enter Jerusalem where they will rule for a THOUSAND YEARS.

You believe there is an unbroken chain from Christ to your Simon (Peter). But all of you Catholic plug your ears and refuse to look into the "Peter" you follow.

The Jerusalem Church of God REJECTED Simon Magus whom you unwittingly follow

 

[Meriweather]

Simon Magus whom you unwittingly follow

A truly desperate allegation which goes beyond ignorance.

 

[Carl in Michigan]

 

[The Irish Ram]

A follower of Joseph Smith, hmm.

The keys Christ passed on to Peter have been passed to the next keeper of the keys (i.e. Popes) until the King (Christ) returns. Why would Jesus take on a role as servant to himself? Also, for those not aware, scripture speaks of a Holy City, a New Jerusalem. This New Jerusalem is not necessarily a place, but the reality of Christ's rule over his people.

Wrong on so many levels.
First, I am not a follower of Joseph Smith and never have been.
Secondly, if the New Jerusalem isn't the new Jerusalem, the Bible would have said so. It would have been called the New Rome, if you are correct. It absolutely means what it says. Furthermore, it is necessarily a place, and so we don't mistake it for some other place, scripture makes a point of telling us Jesus will place His Kingdom where His forefather David set up his. And when Christ returns, it will be to the Mount of Olives. In Israel.
Jesus was and is and will always be a Rabbi.

 

[Meriweather]

It would have been called the New Rome, if you are correct.

There is no such thing as a "New Rome". I don't know how you develop the deep fear that Jesus would return and rule from Rome. No one else thinks this. John speaks of a New Heaven and a New Earth, a New Holy City (New Jerusalem).

 

[Meriweather]

You believe there is an unbroken chain from Christ to your Simon (Peter). But all of you Catholic plug your ears and refuse to look into the "Peter" you follow.

By the way, because this is a discussion forum I ignore videos because I cannot have a discussion with a video. Apparently, you cannot even sum up your own accusation.

 

[The Irish Ram]

There is no such thing as a "New Rome". I don't know how you develop the deep fear that Jesus would return and rule from Rome. No one else thinks this. John speaks of a New Heaven and a New Earth, a New Holy City (New Jerusalem).

You see no fear in me. I know exactly where Christ is coming back to us, and the Vatican isn't it. I am fully confident in scripture. It is you who are trying to make Catholicism biblically relevant.

 

[surada]

There is no such thing as a "New Rome". I don't know how you develop the deep fear that Jesus would return and rule from Rome. No one else thinks this. John speaks of a New Heaven and a New Earth, a New Holy City (New Jerusalem).

You believe the New Jerusalem is a literal brick and mortar city?

 

[The Irish Ram]

You believe the New Jerusalem is a literal brick and mortar city?

Yes, I can even show it to you on a map.

That is exactly where Christ will return. And that will split in half as soon as He does.

 

[Meriweather]

and the Vatican isn't it.

Who said it was? The only person I've ever heard say this is you. Do you just make things up and toss them up to see if they fly?

 

[Meriweather]

You believe the New Jerusalem is a literal brick and mortar city?

That's not how the Book of Revelation describes it.

 

[The Irish Ram]

Who said it was? The only person I've ever heard say this is you.

Then you have missed 99% of misery's posts.

 

[The Irish Ram]

That's not how the Book of Revelation describes it.

What do you see?