Zone1 Pray for the Iranian people, many comparisons right now to the Book of Esther.

[ding]

Yup.

Every problem we have with Iran is one of our own making, starting in 1953.

So the Democratic Party's belief that Iran sponsors terrorism is based upon propaganda too?

The Democratic Party officially recognizes Iran as a state sponsor of terrorism, but the party is currently divided on the appropriate response, particularly regarding military action.

• Official Position: The 2016 and subsequent party platforms have generally maintained that Iran is a leading state sponsor of terrorism, supporting groups like Hamas and Hezbollah.
• Recent Congressional Vote (March 2026): In a March 5, 2026, vote, 53 House Democrats voted against a nonbinding resolution reaffirming Iran as the "largest state sponsor of terrorism".
• Reasons for Dissent: The 53 Democrats who voted against the resolution—including progressives like Reps. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, Ilhan Omar, and Rashida Tlaib—generally expressed concerns that the resolution was designed to justify, or act as a "blank check" for,7 unauthorized military action and escalation in the region.
• Mainstream View: While some progressives voted against the measure, other Democrats continued to condemn Iran's actions while simultaneously opposing military action, arguing that diplomacy or targeted sanctions are better approaches.

 

[Quantrill]

We're not the ones advocating the policies that kill people.

That would be your side.

Still waiting for you to tell me what Christian Nation has been invaded by bad old Muslims lately.

Every Christian Nation that allows Muslims into their Nation, is being invaded by Islam. Every Muslim is supporting Islam whose goal is to place that Nation where they live, under Shariah Law. They are an enemy Nation.

Quantrill

 

[BreezeWood]

Rubbish. You vermin love the dead bodies, same as you love the dead children your heroes have used as human shields. It provides you with a fake cover for your degenerate psycho propaganda agendas. the more dead the better you scum like it.

just another 4th century crucifier ...

The semiofficial Mehr News Agency confirmed last week that Khamenei’s son was alive and well after the deadly strikes launched by the U.S. and Israel that killed his father, his wife and other family members.

murdering woman and children has no bearing on them whatsoever ... e-martin.

 

[BreezeWood]

It will get worse before it gets better.

the prophet ...

 

[BreezeWood]

they are all three desert religions guilty of crimes against humanity and could be the heavens will to destroy them all in one fell swoop.

Wouldn't "destroying humanity in one fell swoop" be the absolute 'crime against humanity'?

who said anything about humanity - especially when referring to the desert religions.

 

[Kruska]

And America is a Plutocracy.

They don't have candidates who aren't approved by the Clerics, we don't have candidates who aren't approved by Wall Street.


Okay, and the US has armed the Kurdish Terrorists, the Mujahedin (who eventually became the Taliban and Al Qaeda), the Contras (who smuggled tons of cocaine into the US), and dozens of despots around the world.

One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter. The people who the Iranians armed represent substantial constiuencies in those countries. In Syria, they supported the recognized government of Bashir Assad. In Iran, they supported the Shi'ite Majority who ran the government. In Yemen, they support the Shi'ite Houthis that want independence from the Sunni/Saudi-backed government. And of course, they support the Palestinian People's struggle against Zionist occupiers.

We can't stick our hands into a hornet's nest and then complain about getting stung.




Or they are supporting legitimate independence movements. How many of the people that we support can legitimately be called "Democracies". Maybe Israel, if you are being generous and ignoring the Apartheid. The rest are either monarchies or dictatorships.



So what? the bigger question is, why do we have an "interest" in that region to start with. Oh, yeah, that's right, AIPAC and Exxon control our politics.



Because I'm tired of watching young Americans come home in Boxes.



Again, guy, if you are going to post AI crap, you should probably read it before you post it.



No, I am making the argument that we shouldn't be involved in that region at all.

The reason why we have the Clerics in charge of Iran right now is because when Iran was moving towards a Democracy, we joined with the British to stage a coup and make the Shah an absolute monarch. The Shah then proceeded to eliminate any legitimate party or organization that could assume leadership, except for the Clergy.

It should also be pointed out that when the CIA staged the coup that ended democracy in Iran, they worked with the Ayatollahs Qasem Kashani and Mohammad Behbahani, who brought the mobs into the street. In short, we initially empowered the religious fanatics.

Iran's Mullahs Backed the 1953 Coup. What Will They Back Next?

"Iran’s political barometer is still held in the hands of the men in robes," writes Bobby Ghosh

time.com

We created this mess. We should stop trying to manipulate things our way and make a bigger mess.

Killing Khameini to win over Iranians would be like trying to win over Catholics by killing Pope Leo.

Great post !!

BTW, are you aware why the French are so "keen" nowadays's on getting involved against Iran?

They enacted revenge on the USA (for condemning French atomic tests, and the US wanting to introduce SALT) and thought it to be a great idea to allow the Ayatollah Khomeini (living and preaching in exile in France) to return to Iran (even charted a 747 for him) on Feb. 1st 1979.

The French Secret service had offered the Shah to assassinate Khomeini, which he refused - not wanting to create a Shiite Martyr. Then France thought it would be a good idea - to support Khomeini, to get some good oil and weapon deals, once the USA would get expelled.

You see, it's not just the US governmnet that plots and promotes regime changes.

 

[Ace Nova]

who said anything about humanity - especially when referring to the desert religions.

For someone attempting to defend Iran - THE HUB for "Desert Religions" as you speak - you're starting to sound incredibly racist - and exceptionally hypocritical.

I'm disappointed in you - although you and I may not see eye to eye - I usually respect your posts and some of the "out of the box" thinking you bring.

Not today.

Do better.

 

[EdwinAMartin]

For someone attempting to defend Iran - THE HUB for "Desert Religions" as you speak - you're starting to sound incredibly racist - and exceptionally hypocritical.

I'm disappointed in you - although you and I may not see eye to eye - I usually respect your posts and some of the "out of the box" thinking you bring.

Not today.

Do better.

When he was 10 he demanded God give him a pony, and he didn't. He's been butthurt ever since.

 

[ding]

the prophet ...

You don't have to be a prophet to know that.

 

[BreezeWood]

For someone attempting to defend Iran ... although you and I may not see eye to eye ...

that the u s does not designate judaism a terrorist organization is the flaw that allows either side, islam christianity and judaism to avoid the reality of their collective denial of the true nature of the heavens for their own self interests as something other than capitulation to evil they all represent.

you have a reading comprehension problem using your false religion as a barrier from experiencing the truth.

 

[Ace Nova]

you have a reading comprehension problem using your false religion as a barrier from experiencing the truth.

Whether you believe my Earthly religion is true or not is your opinion.

What you cannot deny is my Spirituality - for if you deny my Spirituality then you deny the very essence of all existence - including your own.

 

[JoeB131]

Right.

Revisionists like yourself deserve a time capsule that would force you to live in an alternate world - where WWII was won by Germany & Japan - with Nazi flags flown over the entirety of world - including the middle-east.

Right, because everyone who doesn't think our blind support of Israel is really a Nazi.

No rational person enjoys the negative consequences of war. Personally, I was caught off guard with the current conflict in Iran. I never expected for anything of this sort to happen (now) - not after last year's so called "truce". For whatever reason - Israel seems to be hell bent on taking care of any and all issues - things that have built up over the past 70+ years - especially with Iran.

Oh, I agree, this was unexpected. Netanyahu has been trying for 30 years to get us to attack Iran for him. He just didn't have a president stupid enough to do it until now.

Apparently Iran has attempted to assassinate Trump - and based on their history of sponsoring anti-US terrorism and propaganda - it isn't far fetched.

Actually, it kind of is.

Since Trump assassinated Solemani, and now Khameini, you really can't say, "No fair when you try to assassinate back!!!"

"It's okay when we do it" is never a moral strategy.

Personally, I don't necessarily agree with targeting world leaders - whether it's against us or against an Adversary. I think it sets a very dangerous precedent and could lead to catastrophic results if done against a country with nuclear weapons or weapons of mass destruction.

Okay, we agree. But that's what Trump has done. Now Khameini's son is in charge. Trump not only killed his dad, but apparently, his wife was also killed in an airstrike.

Nations need to realize there is a difference between targeting the leader of a terrorist organization vs targeting the leader of a sovereign nation. There is also a major difference in "apprehending" a rogue world leader (as we did with Maduro) vs targeting world leaders in lethal air strikes.

Again, have to agree.

That said, the people of Iran have been protesting against their government for years - but no Western nation has ever come to their aid - so their protests, thousands of lives lost - their hopes of living in a country with equal human rights among both men and women - was all done in ire and nothing more. I can only hope - that whatever comes of this - that the people of Iran will get the Justice and freedom they deserve.

You see, this is where I have to disagree with you. A wise polsci professor once said to me, no government can endure without the tacit support of its people. The Iranian regime has survived as long as it has because most of their citizens agree with it or at least tolerate it.

Most of the recent unrest has been over economic issues - aggravated by climate issues (Tehran can't get enough water) and economic sanctions.

 

[JoeB131]

So the Democratic Party's belief that Iran sponsors terrorism is based upon propaganda too?

Both political parties are full of Zionist stooges.

That's why I have no good expectations for this war.

 

[ding]

Both political parties are full of Zionist stooges.

I'm going to make sure to remind you of this from time to time.

 

[Ace Nova]

You see, this is where I have to disagree with you. A wise polsci professor once said to me, no government can endure without the tacit support of its people. The Iranian regime has survived as long as it has because most of their citizens agree with it or at least tolerate it.

Most of the recent unrest has been over economic issues - aggravated by climate issues (Tehran can't get enough water) and economic sanctions.

Obviously "No government can endure without the support of its people"

The people of China supported the brutal reign of Mao Zedung for 27 years. A reported 40+ million people died during his reign.

If the people of China actually had a choice (without the probability of being executed if they rebelled) - would they have supported his government?

How about the Soviet Union?

How about modern day North Korea? Of course the people are loyal to their government - they do not have a choice.


If your choices are: Give unconditional support to your government or face capital punishment - what would you choose?

The people of Iran - especially most generations older than Gen X - know what it was like when they were "relatively" free. For the most part, they are a "good looking/attractive" people - many very sharp/intelligent minds - hard working people - who (at a time) were proud of who they are - consider themselves Persians - distinguishing themselves from other Middle Eastern Countries.

Do you believe that these sharp, proud people, are proud of the current day status of their Nation and how it is regarded by almost everyone in the world?

Do you honestly believe that kids, teenagers and young adults enjoy being told that "Dying defending their country against Israel, the US or the West is an 'honorable" death?" What if it was your children? Would you be proud to raise them in that type of environment? What if your child was a girl? What would you do if she came home with bruises from getting lashes - all because she did not cover herself properly?

Put your Partisan politics aside for one minute - breath and think.

 

[BreezeWood]

Whether you believe my Earthly religion is true or not is your opinion.

it's real -

not many deny the reality of the bible belt just why it exists is the issue.

 

[Carl in Michigan]

What is happening right now in Iran is comparable to what happened in the Book of Esther.

Iranians all across Canada are rejoicing in the streets over the death of an astonishingly evil ruler, who can be compared with Haman of Book of Esther fame.

Pray that the Creator give freedom to the people of Iran to be able to worship freely. Because Iran was a major leader in training terrorists so what is emerging in Iran could be of miraculous benefit to many nations.

Life From Israel with Albert Veksler | War and Purim​

The Iranian People (Persia) freed the Jews from Babylonian captivity. This year Judah and Joseph returned the favor

 

[BreezeWood]

You don't have to be a prophet to know that.

- before it gets better.

to know the above - for a crucifier, sinner what that outcome might mean may not be certain in context than for certain an omen of ill tidings.

 

[Ace Nova]

it's real -

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not many deny the reality of the bible belt just why it exists is the issue.

It's not real in 2026. Not the way you think it is, anyway.

If there are actual KKK demonstrations anywhere within the US - they are ridiculed, scorned and verbally assaulted anywhere they go - by the vast majority of true, honest - hard working Americans.

Although it can seem terrifying to see a hate group organize in public - it is one of the reasons this country is the strongest country in the world - allowing even the worst of the worst to have their say in public - without fear of prosecution or condemnation.

It is a high moral ground - not one that is easily understood by biased naysayers and simpletons.

It is quite literally what you preach here 10 times a day: SELF DETERMINATION in action - in a free society.

See, when you preach Self Determination - you can't have it both ways - if you truly believe in SELF DETERMINATION - you have the right to NOT "like" the photo you posted...

BUT YOU HAVE NO RIGHT TO USE IT AGAINST A SOVEREIGN NATION AS AN ACCUSATORY JUDGEMENT - it is quite LITERALLY SELF DETERMINATION IN ACTION - AMONG A FREE SOCIETY.

 

[BreezeWood]

It's not real in 2026.

really,

that's what you claimed in the 50's - sinner.