WRONG.
That is a picture showing the SPANISH INQUISITION.
1478
Almost 600 years ago. TRY AGAIN.
SINNER.
Zone1 Pray for the Iranian people, many comparisons right now to the Book of Esther.
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WRONG.
That is a picture showing the SPANISH INQUISITION.
1478
Almost 600 years ago. TRY AGAIN.
SINNER.
JoeB131
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You can do that all day, but it still doesn't take away from the fact that the US is being manipulated into a war we didn't need against people who are no threat to us.
JoeB131
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The vast majority of people in Judah were never taken into captivity.
The real significance of the "Babylonian Captivity" is that in Babylon, Judaism became more defined because people had time to sit down and write about how much their lives sucked likea bunch of Emo teenagers.
God is always pruning us.
Sometimes people do the right thing for the wrong reasons. Iran needed to know their actions have consequences. Iran WAS a threat to everyone. That threat is being removed.
JoeB131
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Well, except they've been an "imminent threat" for the last 47 years. Except when we asked their help to deal with Saddam, or ISIS.
Apparently they were but not anymore.
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really,
provide any time in history ...
the desert religions, christianity are not at the forefront of self adulation to persecute and victimize the innocent - sinner.
or ever attempted to bring to justice the crucifiers for their crimes against humanity including writing their dreadful 4th century christian bible using the events victim for their own selfish purposes..
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Exactly!
Over the next decade the number of Iranians murdered by the leadership of Iran is almost certain to decrease.
Considering the massive number of Iranians who have been tortured and murdered by their leaders over the past decades.....
it is pretty obvious that those same people would have used a nuclear device against the little nation of Israel.....
if they had had a nuclear weapon at their disposal.
Crimes against humanity?
"Humanity" as we understand it, was founded on the principles, teachings and "laws" that were established during the dawn of civilization - beginning in Ancient Sumer and Egypt - later Canaan - Greek/Roman/European Pagan Religions in Europe - Judaism/Babylonian religions in the middle east - Hinduism, Taoism, Buddhism, Confucianism, Shinto, in the far East.
Christianity and then Islam, came thousands of years later - further outlining "principles, teachings, laws" within themselves.
Do you know what "human beings" were doing before the advent of civilization?
They were following the rules of nature:
When a pride of lions stalks a herd of gazelles - the likelihood is that they will kill the slowest or youngest. Why? Because that is natural law.
Many humans did the same thing - they would follow the rules of nature and hunt whatever was available to them - including other human beings.
The teachings, principles and laws established by the ancient religions at the dawn of civilization is what turned "homo- sapiens" into "human beings".
The very terms you use: "Persecution of the innocent, victimization of the innocent" did not exist (as we currently understand them) prior to the advent of civilization - and the ancient religions that helped establish them - including Judaism - because "Persecution and victimization of the innocent" is a basic requirement of nature and natural law.
On one hand, you honor the "Sabbath - Earth" by "keeping it clean, holy and according to natural law" but on the other hand, you condemn humanity for "following natural law" when they resort to the "lowest common denominator" - FOLLOWING NATURAL LAW - INSTEAD OF - the principles and teachings that were established by the ancient religions - that makes people "human"?
If you judge humanity, you can judge them by EITHER natural law OR the laws established by civilization/religion "human law" - NOT BOTH - because if you attempt to judge them by both - then you too will be judged by both.
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So....
would you say that the Being of Ligth of near death experience fame was judging Adolf Hitler in an unjust or excessively cruel manner to have Adolf Hitler, in 1982, having a Life Review where he did something of a "Vulcan Mind Meld" with all of his victims?
By your reasoning Adolf Hitler was "obeying the laws of nature?"
Or did I understand you incorrectly?
He Died & Saw HITLER in Hell. What Came Next Will Shock You
The post was a specific response to BreezeWood - he tends to judge on a very "macro level" - but uses "micro level" evidence.
In terms of Hitler - if someone judges him according to the "rules of nature" and comes to the conclusion that he was "obeying the rules of nature" (For arguments sake) - although it can be difficult to accept - it's fine.
But that would make him no different than a "Wild Animal" - which would not only destroy everything he lived for "Master/Superior Human" race - but would demote him to the level of a wild animal - taking away all of his "humanity". So in a sense, you would be judging him to "his version of hell".
Imagine this scenario:
Hitler dies - goes to judgement in the afterlife and is given a choice - you can be judged by the laws of nature or by the laws of humanity. He thinks deeply to himself, "If I get judged by the laws of humanity I'll burn in hell." So he chooses to be judged by the rules of nature.
He is then told that since he is judged by the rules of nature, he will not go to hell but will spend the rest of eternity reincarnating as a wild animal - starting as a plankton in the sea - to thousands of years later as a Chimp - and at several points in between was a chicken and a cow - slaughtered and eaten by the very same people he tried to eradicate.
And although that may seem like "Divine Judgement" to some - it was purely 'Tongue in Cheek". I have no idea nor would I dare to guess someone's judgement - for "God's ways are higher than our ways."
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Hitler spoke of a master race, a Nazi white Christian German culture, and his antisemitism was supported by your church. His genocidal madness was inspired by a literal interpretation of "But as for those enemies of mine who would not have me for their king, bring them here and slaughter them in my presence." Luke 19:27. Thats why he said people DIDN'T HAVE THE STOMACH to fight "his struggle". He was referring to the slaughter of Jews.
He ordered the "Entjudungsinstitut", Institute for the cleansing of Judaism from Christianity
How is any of that fine?
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Ok fake News.
Do you work for MSNBC?
You, out of all people - I would think would have the intelligence to read my entire quote.
Now pay attention, dummy:
But that would make him no different than a "Wild Animal" - which would not only destroy everything he lived for "Master/Superior Human" race - but would demote him to the level of a wild animal - taking away all of his "humanity". So in a sense, you would be judging him to "his version of hell".
Imagine this scenario:
Hitler dies - goes to judgement in the afterlife and is given a choice - you can be judged by the laws of nature or by the laws of humanity. He thinks deeply to himself, "If I get judged by the laws of humanity I'll burn in hell." So he chooses to be judged by the rules of nature.
He is then told that since he is judged by the rules of nature, he will not go to hell but will spend the rest of eternity reincarnating as a wild animal - starting as a plankton in the sea - to thousands of years later as a Chimp - and at several points in between was a chicken and a cow - slaughtered and eaten by the very same people he tried to eradicate.
And although that may seem like "Divine Judgement" to some - it was purely 'Tongue in Cheek". I have no idea nor would I dare to guess someone's judgement - for "God's ways are higher than our ways."
The females do the hunting FOR THE MALES, THE LAZY BASTARDS, and even so, or because so, Kings like to compare themselves to lions but, note this, lions are not kosher.
ITS THE LAW
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I did, but I thought it was a good place to interject something not so tongue in cheek
YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT HITLER AFTER ALL.
Forgive me if I offended your fragile ego, delicate ears, and very distinguished pretensions.
Exactly.
Thats why I said that lions are not kosher revealing what Jesus meant by saying eat my flesh.
Then let me help you. You don't have to guess. You have to do better to get into Hebbin.
Open your blind eyes and you will see Gods judgments enforced. The Judgements of God and his opinions of the variety of human archetypes have been revealed from the beginning. KNOW THIS; a person who practices idolatry died and descended into hell in the same day they do it, already If God is God. You will know them by their fruit. Either blessed or cursed.
If you don't believe me look at ding's latest posted gems. His tongue is rotting in his mouth.
Swine are vile and loathsome creature whose "flesh" defiles and contaminates [the mind] according to the divine menu. Every mythological creature in scripture from angels to demons and all the animals in between reflect the heights and depths of human potential.
This is the kingdom of God.
It seems God doesn't think much of humans. Bottom feeders, maggots, cattle, sheep, goats, wolves, serpents, vultures, teeming vermin, swine that do not ruminate, worms, creepy things that creep etc, and I am in complete agreement with his judgments so don't freak out and accuse me of blasphemy or claiming to be God when I say "the Father and I are one".
Of one accord.
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Wow - I don't remember you being so petty. You're the one that is "Bringing the light and deeper meanings of ancient texts to light. Something no one knew until NOW"
Toughen up, cub scout.
As far as egos go - I respect many of your insights - and a lot of what you state as "Deeper thinking" may seem offensive to fragile egos - but when it comes to Ancient Texts/Biblical Texts my heart was turned to stone by the relentless (Dead) insults and brain-dead/spiritually-dead knuckleheads who quote the same 3 verses of of 30,000+ verses as evidence that God or Ancient texts are either false or come from a "Lesser/Evil God".
It's the equivalent of someone telling you they were struck by lighting. You find it hard to believe. You go outside during the next 3 thunder/lightning storms but "somehow" you don't get struck by lightning.
The next time you see that person you tell them that on this day and this day and on that day I went outside during a lighting storm and did not get struck by lightning.
Then, you firmly tell them they were never hit by lightning and that they imagined it like some sort of fairy tale. And since they're "fools for thinking that" you set them straight by telling them that they will never get struck by lightning because you went outside 3 times during a thunderstorm and didn't get struck.
And the entire time you already know the chances of getting struck by lightning are between 10,000 - 1 and 15,000 - 1 - meaning it would have been a "miracle" had they been struck by lightning.
Had they survived it - the true miracle would have been opening their hearts to faith, sprouting the tree of knowledge, awakening their minds - producing the fruit of wisdom, opening their eyes and finally realizing how naked they were when quoting 3 verses out of 30,000 verses.
In lion prides, the females tend to do (most) of the hunting - but not all. When it involves the "bigger/more challenging" targets - males get involved. And males protect the pride - to death, if need be. If a male does not protect the pride he will lose his position to another male.
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