Zone1 I am prepared to call Protestantism a cult

[surada]

Don't you know that if it weren't for the Catholic Church, there's be no protestant "churches" so called? The CC is the Original founded by Christ. All the others (anyone who knows history will see) were founded AFTER the 16th century, starting with the "Father of Prostestantism" Martin Luther, an excommunicated heretic. Few people here know Church history. That's why they stay in the fake Christian religion Protestantism.

You never heard of the French Huguenots, have you? Catholics slaughtered them by the thousands in the 15th century.

 

[forkintheroad7]

You never heard of the French Huguenots, have you? Catholics slaughtered them by the thousands in the 15th century.

stop trying to change the subject. And no, I do not know aabout Huguenots. Only God knows everything.. just a reminder..

 

[SweetSue92]

Don't you know that if it weren't for the Catholic Church, there's be no protestant "churches" so called? The CC is the Original founded by Christ. All the others (anyone who knows history will see) were founded AFTER the 16th century, starting with the "Father of Prostestantism" Martin Luther, an excommunicated heretic. Few people here know Church history. That's why they stay in the fake Christian religion Protestantism.

You realize Martin Luther left because of the deep, deep corruption of the church, right?

You know what Indulgences were?

 

[forkintheroad7]

You realize Martin Luther left because of the deep, deep corruption of the church, right?

You know what Indulgences were?

That's not the point I brought up and you are dodging bc you know history is NOT on the side of Prostantantism.

that's all protestants ever do.. When a Catholic brings up a valid point.. say, about HISTORY, which cannot be denied, it's always what the Catholic Church did or allegedly did.. that's the only answer they give. But the Church never acted in doing all the evils they bring up or alleged evils. It was a Catholic INDIVIDUAL or group of them who did .. whatever..

Address the issue I brought up.. How the CC is the one Christ founded and that no other "christian churches" were on the scene until the 16th century.

 

[surada]

stop trying to change the subject. And no, I do not know aabout Huguenots. Only God knows everything.. just a reminder..

You should learn about the Huguenots. Your education is very poor.

 

[JustAGuy1]

How Many Serious Sins Do Protestants Think A “True Believer” Can Commit?

endtimes.video

This video says it all as to what I and other Traditional Catholics believe (know)

We don't care what you think whack job. We rest comfortably in the arms of Jesus.

 

[JustAGuy1]

You should probably understand what it is you don't like about someone b4 spouting off malice

not too Christian

Projection.

 

[The Irish Ram]

You are no different than the OP.

And you have a lot of nerve. You abuse the posters here, unless you consider shit stain a compliment.
Sweep your own porch...

 

[Meriweather]

You know what Indulgences were?

“The pope does very well when he grants remission to souls in purgatory ... by way of intercession for them." (Martin Luther, 95 Theses, # 26)

The sale of indulgences (never a part of Catholic doctrine) had been condemned by the Sorbonne in 1482 and again in 1518. Many Catholic priests spoke out against these sales, and Luther joined in when Dominican friar John Tetzel (already known and criticized for his abusive sale of indulgences) began this sale where Luther lived.

Indulgences were for earthly reparations after sins had been forgiven. The resulting power of sins has been likened to feathers in a pillow being released in the wind which are impossible to be gathered up. In the same way, actions that are good can also be seen as feathers that blow away in the wind, but have positive results in the world. (An imperfect analogy, but is the reason the Catholic Church condemned the sale of indulgences. Friar John Tetzel, by all reports (although roundly criticized by Luther and others for his sale of Indulgences), was a great speaker. He died in disgrace, but before his death he and Luther met, and Luther noted he did not disagree with everything Tetzel preached. They parted peaceably.

 

[ding]

And you have a lot of nerve. You abuse the posters here, unless you consider shit stain a compliment.
Sweep your own porch...

It takes two to tango, dear. The question is always who is on the offensive and who is on the defensive. Just because my defensive is better than their offensive is no reason not to continue defending myself.

So the next time you write one of your posts ask yourself who is throwing the first punch and who is defending themselves from it.

 

[The Irish Ram]

It takes two to tango, dear. The question is always who is on the offensive and who is on the defensive. Just because my defensive is better than their offensive is no reason not to continue defending myself.

So the next time you write one of your posts ask yourself who is throwing the first punch and who is defending themselves from it.

Bullshit. It appears that you just like to tango with everyone.

 

[ding]

Bullshit. It appears that you just tango with everyone.

Sure. It's not my preference though. But again... go back and see who threw the first punch.

 

[DakotaKai_fan20]

Sure, chameleon. But when you take a look at your skin then you should perhaps ask yourselve what the empty phrases on your skin really should show.



Oh by the way ding: 'Catholic' is not another word for "Trump -supporter" - although I could understand when the US-American conference of bishops - if it is existing - whould warn Catholics to vote for Donald Trump. This man tried to keep the power in an illegal way and as far as I can see he will try to overtake the USA in a coup by replacing 50,000 loyal officers of the USA with 50,000 slaves of Donald Trump. The worldwide worrying question in this context is "Quo vadis USA?"

A real Catholic wouldn't talk like this.

 

[forkintheroad7]

You should learn about the Huguenots. Your education is very poor.

You should face the music
answer the post I wrote, not the one you wanted to talk about. But oh well.

I thought u were on Ignore.. hmmm... probably should be

 

[forkintheroad7]

A real Catholic wouldn't talk like this.

Only the Sedevacantists and maybe a few others who were victimized by Vatican II but managed to stay faithful to true Catholicism nonetheless..
are the real Catholics

 

[forkintheroad7]

“The pope does very well when he grants remission to souls in purgatory ... by way of intercession for them." (Martin Luther, 95 Theses, # 26)

The sale of indulgences (never a part of Catholic doctrine) had been condemned by the Sorbonne in 1482 and again in 1518. Many Catholic priests spoke out against these sales, and Luther joined in when Dominican friar John Tetzel (already known and criticized for his abusive sale of indulgences) began this sale where Luther lived.

Indulgences were for earthly reparations after sins had been forgiven. The resulting power of sins has been likened to feathers in a pillow being released in the wind which are impossible to be gathered up. In the same way, actions that are good can also be seen as feathers that blow away in the wind, but have positive results in the world. (An imperfect analogy, but is the reason the Catholic Church condemned the sale of indulgences. Friar John Tetzel, by all reports (although roundly criticized by Luther and others for his sale of Indulgences), was a great speaker. He died in disgrace, but before his death he and Luther met, and Luther noted he did not disagree with everything Tetzel preached. They parted peaceably.

I didn't know that, esp the last part.

However, Luther was a vile person who used atrocious language and said that if a person commits adultery 20 times a day, he can still get to Heaven..

I don't recall him ever retracting that insane statement either.. (Jesus said Sin No More)
probably went to his death defying the Church

The book The Facts About Luther is quite informative. But protestants here likely won't read it because it paints their leader in a bad bad way.. Like I said elsewhere, most people don't care about objective truth.. esp if it ruins their preferred narrative

 

[The Irish Ram]

Don't you know that if it weren't for the Catholic Church, there's be no protestant "churches" so called? The CC is the Original founded by Christ. All the others (anyone who knows history will see) were founded AFTER the 16th century, starting with the "Father of Prostestantism" Martin Luther, an excommunicated heretic. Few people here know Church history. That's why they stay in the fake Christian religion Protestantism.

Simply not true.

 

[The Irish Ram]

Address the issue I brought up.. How the CC is the one Christ founded and that no other "christian churches" were on the scene until the 16th century

Christ never went to Rome to start a church.
None of the churches mentioned in the Bible are Catholic.
Peter started Christ's church in Jerusalem and preached their for 15 years until his arrest.
Christ is a Rabbi, not a Pope.

 

[DakotaKai_fan20]

Simply not true.

Yes, the Catholic church was founded hundreds of years after Jesus died and was resurrected.

 

[Meriweather]

However, Luther was a vile person who used atrocious language and said that if a person commits adultery 20 times a day, he can still get to Heaven..

My point is that Martin Luther was a Catholic priest who opposed the sale of indulgences--but...Martin Luther was not the only priest who opposed the sale of indulgences. In fact, the Church is on record, shortly before Martin Luther was born, and again about twenty years later, saying indulgences were not to be sold. In opposing Friar Tetzler's sale of indulgences (along with other priests who opposed this), Martin Luther was upholding Catholic Church teaching on indulgences.