How will the anti God crowd act if Jesus comes soon.

[SillyWabbit]

God told some of them to do it.

Well, now I'm being a smart ass: some of them thought God told them to do it (whatever it was they thought God told them to do).
Is there a difference?
Really?

As a side note: I'm just guessing plenty of people do things--supposedly in the name of whatever the popular lord is--simply for their own gain.

Just a thought

Yeah, well Moses was told by God, according to his books, to kill people. Simple as that.

Am I missing my own point?

 

[Skull Pilot]

Yes i did in another thread.

Pro choice,so you are ok with women aborting defenseless children but you're not ok with God handing down punishment to those that he warned before hand.

Really,you see the importance of the sacrifice of Christ because he no longer has to take that action until the end.

An embryo is not a defenseless child.

A living breathing first born son who your god killed was an innocent defenseless child.

jesus christ didn't sacrifice anything. in fact he never really died. he was tortured for a while then supposedly given everlasting life as one of gods split personalities.

Whoa, whoa, whoa.

An embryo it is a living breathing human in the womb if that were not true why did God give that child an umbilical cord if you don't mind answering please ?

Face it skull, you support women to commit murder.

A fetus in the womb does not breathe. The umbilical cord connects the fetus to the mother because the fetus in incapable of breathing on its own

It's not murder as defined by the laws of the land. And I neither support nor condemn abortion. It's none of my business what another chooses to do insofar as their own body is concerned.

Talk about a double standard.

I am however against killing people who have actually been born unlike you and your god.

Psa 22:10 I was cast on You from the womb; You are My God from My mother's belly.

Psa 58:3 The wicked are estranged from the womb; they go astray from the womb, speaking lies.

Isa 44:2 So says Jehovah who made you, and formed you from the womb, who will help you; Fear not, O Jacob My servant, and you, Jeshurun, whom I have chosen.

Isa 44:24 So says Jehovah, your Redeemer, and He who formed you from the womb, I am Jehovah who makes all things; who stretches out the heavens alone; who spreads out the earth; who was with Me?

Hos 9:11 Ephraim is like a bird; their glory shall fly away from birth, and from the womb, and from conception.

If God is creating us from the womb anyone who kills the child in the womb is commiting murder. The only one has the right and the ability to judge a child through the parents is Almighty God.

He came to this planet and sacrficed himself so this no longer takes place but yet you still support what you claim God commited.

None of those passages define when life begins.

And the only two people that god actually created were adam and eve, if you believe in such nonsense

All the rest of us were born the old fashioned way.

 

[Skull Pilot]

How do you figure ? i do not know how many persons truly represent God. But they all make up the Alimighty and have a role.

Rev 3:1 And to the angel of the church in Sardis write: He who has the seven Spirits of God and the seven stars says these things. I know your works, that you have a name that you live, and are dead.

Rev 4:5 And out of the throne came lightnings and thunderings and voices. And seven lamps of fire were burning in front of the throne, which are the seven spirits of God.

Rev 5:6 And I looked, and lo, in the midst of the throne and of the four living creatures, amidst the elders, a Lamb stood, as if it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth.

I also believe the that "the Angel of the LORD" represents the Almighty and is another person of God.

But anyways to show you why would take a major study to show.

I am just using your own words here.

You said that jesus was a person who represented god and then not a few posts later said that jesus was god incarnate.

He was either one or the other but not both.

All i was saying is Jesus is God in the flesh man could not see God in his full glory.

so you have finally made up your mind?

 

[LoVE]

I am just using your own words here.

You said that jesus was a person who represented god and then not a few posts later said that jesus was god incarnate.

He was either one or the other but not both.

All i was saying is Jesus is God in the flesh man could not see God in his full glory.

so you have finally made up your mind?

and just think you are going to get to meet him someday..

whether it is as your savior or your judge is for you to make up your mind about.

 

[Youwerecreated]

so nobody knows ,some who think it may be soon others who think it may be never what gives you the inside scoop that makes you the only correct translations of the scriptures .....

Following the words of the prophets Daniel and Ezekiel also Jesus gave us a chronology of the prophecies that have to be fulfilled before the end comes.

I am off to the Dr i will post what Jesus said so you can get a better Picture of what Christ was saying In a little while.

assuming of course that (if he existed ) is what he actually said
the books were written yrs after his death do you think they had files int those days to record conversations years before .?
more bullshit from the believers
people have a job remembering what was said to them or by them hours after the event when it is recorded by modern technics ( this has been proven )
do you think folks were any more observant in those days ??

Some of it was written after his death that is correct but they were still written before the fulfillment of the prophecies.

They believe the book of acts could have been started before his death which is the history of the Christian movement.

 

[Youwerecreated]

The inquisition was just one example of religious(Christian) genocide.

Once again chalk it up to mans religions not God.

God told some of them to do it.

According to who ?

 

[Youwerecreated]

You back up your beliefs but you cant back up your facts.

Please point out the facts you say i don't back up please ?

Here is an example.

That was one guys opinion.

No not true,many evolutionist believed this because that is what they were taught, the same things are still happening to our children.

Completely an utterly baseless. No facts presented. Its a statement which lacks any credibility.

You're being asked to believe things from the science text books that has never been tested or observed but it is taught as fact.

Young people don't have a clue but trust what's written in the text books.

 

[Youwerecreated]

2 Kings 2: 23* And he went up from thence unto Bethel: and as he was going up by the way, there came forth little children out of the city, and mocked him, and said unto him, Go up, thou bald head; go up, thou bald head.
24 And he turned back, and looked on them, and cursed them in the name of the LORD. And there came forth two she bears out of the wood, and tare forty and two children of them.

23, 24. there came forth little children out of the city--that is, the idolatrous, or infidel young men of the place, who affecting to disbelieve the report of his master's translation, sarcastically urged him to follow in the glorious career.
bald head--an epithet of contempt in the East, applied to a person even with a bushy head of hair. The appalling judgment that befell them was God's interference to uphold his newly invested prophet.

God does not put to death anyone who is considered righteous or in other words innocent.

He has got a bit of a temper though!

Yes he does.

 

[Youwerecreated]

This is pretty simple. You dont know what God thinks. Thats a fact written in your holy book.

And what exactly is preventing a all powerful, all knowing God from revealing His thoughts to YWC? I'm not saying whether He did or not. I don't know YWC's experiences. But it seems alittle silly to cite the Bible to support your position when the Bible expressly teaches that God communicates with man.

So do you believe God communicated with YWC and told him some of his secrets for the world? Im thinking he did not. Im pretty sure you know he didnt.

Im thinking hes making a judgement. I believe he thinks he knows what God thinks. Thats my opinion.

Let me speak for myself.

No,i have never heard the voice of God, but i have felt his presence and felt what i was writing was correct at the time. I continue to pray for the truth and for help to keep his words in context. so i am not turing and twisting his words as many do.

 

[Youwerecreated]

The inquisition was just one example of religious(Christian) genocide.

While I'm not terribly shocked that you ignored everything I said, I'm still a bit disappointed.

I dont see how you could think I ignored anything you said. I just made a statement.

How about you tell me what really happened if the history books are so wrong? Instead of burning people on the stake did they slow roast them or what? Whats missing?

Again religion is to blame, not God.

 

[Youwerecreated]

this much I would venture to say.

there are not any athiests in a grave.

That is where all the dead wind up no ?

 

[Youwerecreated]

I defended my position with fact, you defended yours with fantasy.

There are alot of people who say they defend themselves with fact. I suppose it's a way to bolster their argument. I mean what honest person thinks they don't defend themselves with facts?

Sadly, It's not as common as is professed. If it was, everyone would agree pretty easily.

I can tell you as a fact that I know by the power of the Holy Spirit that God exists and Jesus lives. This certainly is a fact. I doubt you'd believe me though. It wouldn't change that I do know. And I know that God knows that because for whatever reason He shared this knowledge with me. I don't know why exactly. But I am grateful for the knowledge and the joy it's brought me since I learned.

But will you believe my real experience and the knowledge I've learned from the Lord? Probably not. And quite honestly, I wouldn't expect you to. I'm not sure Id believe it if I didn't experience it myself. That's why the scriptures teach us that we need to learn for ourselves. We have to call upon God. We have to have our own experiences with the Lord if we are to know the things of God.

If you refuse to seek the Lord for yourself. If you expect others to prove it to you rather than learning for yourself, you will never learn. Because it is something that must be learned by the Spirit. And if it's learned some other way, it's not of God.

People want to learn the things of God with no study or personal effort. They want someone to hand it to them. You can't learn the things of God except by doing them any more than you can learn mathematics and never do any equations. It simply doesn't work that way.

You have me completely wrong. I dont hate religion. I think its beneficial to many people. Its just not for me.

What I do have a problem with is people like YWC who try to convince people of untrue things. People who discombobulate facts to fit an agenda. People who say scientists are pea brains and then deny it, on their computers which run on electricity all created by scientists. We owe our lives to scientists.

Thats what I have a problem with. If you are a Christian thats fine. Jesus had some good ideas as did Muhammad as did Buddha. It doesnt matter to me what religion you are. Live long and prosper.

If you're gonna refer to me please be specific and stop with the rhetoric.

You have not shown one thing i said to be false if you do i will admit the mistake.

I can't stand people that make blanket statements that they can't back up with anything.

That shows me what a true liar is out to purposely try and make someone look bad because they can't debate in a rational way.

 

[Youwerecreated]

You are no man of legitimate science.

My classes were taken from an accredited school.

The work i did was from the same evidence your evolutionist observed.

You can't even explain the engine of evolution so why go down this road again ?

Natural selection is how it works and always has.

How about you tell me how the origins of life fit into evolution?

Now impress me by explaining how it works according to your views ?

What is the engine for evolution ?

 

[rightwinger]

When Jesus comes, I will buy him a beer

Let him know for me

 

[Youwerecreated]

I defended my position with fact, you defended yours with fantasy.

Ok are you ready to answer where the new information comes from to promote evolution ?

If most mutations or harmful or neutral how can Natural selection allow them to take over a population ?

The key word is "most".

Most what ?

 

[Youwerecreated]

You have no expertise in science. Darwinism does not exist. Its a creationist creation...heh...funny.

The meaning of "Darwinism" has changed over time, and varies depending on who is using the term.[4] In the United States, the term "Darwinism" is often used by creationists as a pejorative term, but in the United Kingdom the term has no negative connotations, being freely used as a short hand for the body of theory dealing with evolution, and in particular, evolution by natural selection.
Darwinism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

You are very ignorant,Neo darwinism is the preferred theory of evolution.

You better stay away from google til you understand the theory a little better

The theory of evolution is just that, the theory of evolution.

Darwinism is just a title creationists like to spread around to sound special.

You should learn to use google a little more efficiently.

Darwin was not even the one who started the theory he is just the one that got the attention.

What is the theory that is accepted by most evolutionist ?

How does it work ?

 

[Youwerecreated]

Why did God give us a tail?

If you're gonna quote me answer the question i asked don't try and ask a question that is dreamed up from your theorists.

You asked a stupid question about why God gave babies an umbilical cord. Why did he give us a tail? Simple question.

While we are on the subject, why did he give us an appendix?

Let me answer the question for you.

The umbilical cord is the source of oxygen and nourishment to your baby while they are in the womb. As long as the umbilical cord is working properly, then your baby should be able to get enough nourishment to continue to grow.

The umbilical cord is attached to the placenta which is attached to the uterine wall and working fully to sustain your baby. The umbilical cord is attached to your baby through a hole in your baby’s stomach which later becomes your baby’s belly button.


So the baby is a living,breathing,growing human being even in the womb.

 

[Youwerecreated]

An embryo is not a defenseless child.

A living breathing first born son who your god killed was an innocent defenseless child.

jesus christ didn't sacrifice anything. in fact he never really died. he was tortured for a while then supposedly given everlasting life as one of gods split personalities.

Whoa, whoa, whoa.

An embryo it is a living breathing human in the womb if that were not true why did God give that child an umbilical cord if you don't mind answering please ?

Face it skull, you support women to commit murder.

A fetus in the womb does not breathe. The umbilical cord connects the fetus to the mother because the fetus in incapable of breathing on its own

It's not murder as defined by the laws of the land. And I neither support nor condemn abortion. It's none of my business what another chooses to do insofar as their own body is concerned.

Talk about a double standard.

I am however against killing people who have actually been born unlike you and your god.

Psa 22:10 I was cast on You from the womb; You are My God from My mother's belly.

Psa 58:3 The wicked are estranged from the womb; they go astray from the womb, speaking lies.

Isa 44:2 So says Jehovah who made you, and formed you from the womb, who will help you; Fear not, O Jacob My servant, and you, Jeshurun, whom I have chosen.

Isa 44:24 So says Jehovah, your Redeemer, and He who formed you from the womb, I am Jehovah who makes all things; who stretches out the heavens alone; who spreads out the earth; who was with Me?

Hos 9:11 Ephraim is like a bird; their glory shall fly away from birth, and from the womb, and from conception.

If God is creating us from the womb anyone who kills the child in the womb is commiting murder. The only one has the right and the ability to judge a child through the parents is Almighty God.

He came to this planet and sacrficed himself so this no longer takes place but yet you still support what you claim God commited.

None of those passages define when life begins.

And the only two people that god actually created were adam and eve, if you believe in such nonsense

All the rest of us were born the old fashioned way.

Nonsense is what you just posted.

Refer to my response to jscooter to understand what the umbilical cord is and does for the child. It is not an embryo or fetus as you refer the proper term is human being.

What do you call a person in the state of the coma that needs aid to survive ?

 

[Youwerecreated]

I am just using your own words here.

You said that jesus was a person who represented god and then not a few posts later said that jesus was god incarnate.

He was either one or the other but not both.

All i was saying is Jesus is God in the flesh man could not see God in his full glory.

so you have finally made up your mind?

Jesus Christ is one of many persons that represent God.

 

[SillyWabbit]

All i was saying is Jesus is God in the flesh man could not see God in his full glory.

so you have finally made up your mind?

Jesus Christ is one of many persons that represent God.

Look. There's no god. That about sums it up. Thanks. Don't kill anyone on your way out.