Zincwarrior
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Unless they go after the employers this is the same joke for cameras it always is.
How Trump's plan to deport undocumented immigrants threatens the U.S. farm workforce
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‘Farmers are facing several challenges in keeping their businesses running, including climate change, bird flu outbreaks and higher costs for feed and fertilizer. Now, many of America's farmers must face the possibility of the Trump administration uprooting a huge part of the workforce with its threat of deporting millions of undocumented immigrants. "It's a lot of hands to hand-harvest fruits and vegetables," New Jersey farmer Kurt Alstede said.
More than two-thirds of U.S. crop workers are foreign born, according to the USDA. Many of them came to the country through the H-2A visas, but officials estimate that 42% of the workers are undocumented migrants. Since his first day in office, President Trump has already issued a slew of executive actions to start reshaping federal immigration and border policies. Many of them are expected to face significant legal challenges, but the administration has created fear and uncertainty in the community.’
How Trump's plan to deport undocumented immigrants threatens the workforce for U.S. farm workforce
About 42% of U.S. farm workers are undocumented, and Trump's plan to deport millions of migrants could uproot the industry's workforce.www.cbsnews.com
Most farmers have only themselves to blame, having voted for Trump, against their own interests.
And the threat to the U.S. farm workforce is completely unnecessary, the consequence of Trump voters’ racism, bigotry, and hate, and their unwarranted obsession with the non-issue of immigration.
Didn't Progressives tell us that the way to prevent Illegal Immigration was to punish the employers?
The Irish Ram
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...for hiring cheap illegal pickers instead of those with legal work visas...
EvilCat Breath
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Yep. Climate change is usually a give away.
Mac-7
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Are any libs open to an agricultural guest worker program after trump has successfully closed the border?‘Farmers are facing several challenges in keeping their businesses running, including climate change, bird flu outbreaks and higher costs for feed and fertilizer. Now, many of America's farmers must face the possibility of the Trump administration uprooting a huge part of the workforce with its threat of deporting millions of undocumented immigrants. "It's a lot of hands to hand-harvest fruits and vegetables," New Jersey farmer Kurt Alstede said.
More than two-thirds of U.S. crop workers are foreign born, according to the USDA. Many of them came to the country through the H-2A visas, but officials estimate that 42% of the workers are undocumented migrants. Since his first day in office, President Trump has already issued a slew of executive actions to start reshaping federal immigration and border policies. Many of them are expected to face significant legal challenges, but the administration has created fear and uncertainty in the community.’
How Trump's plan to deport undocumented immigrants threatens the workforce for U.S. farm workforce
About 42% of U.S. farm workers are undocumented, and Trump's plan to deport millions of migrants could uproot the industry's workforce.
Most farmers have only themselves to blame, having voted for Trump, against their own interests.
And the threat to the U.S. farm workforce is completely unnecessary, the consequence of Trump voters’ racism, bigotry, and hate, and their unwarranted obsession with the non-issue of immigration.
Mac-7
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No individual farmer or big corporate grower is going to hire more expensive labor unless they have to
JoeB131
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We were for that before Trump pretended he closed the border.
the problem is, those visas are very hard to get, while sneaking under a fence is still free.
It should be pointed out that 41% of undocumented immigrants didn't sneak under a fence, they got legitimate visas they overstayed.
We have to assume a lot of those were H2A Visas.
JoeB131
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Wow, you are starting to get it, aren't you?
The problem is ALWAYS going to be the white people who hire them.
Seymour Flops
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This OP shows a complete misunderstanding of how economics works.
You really think the farmers are going to sit around lamenting that their illegal pickers are gone and watch their fruit and cukes rot? When there is a labor shortage in any industry or enterprise, the owner raises wages until the labor shortage is filled.
You really think the farmers are going to sit around lamenting that their illegal pickers are gone and watch their fruit and cukes rot? When there is a labor shortage in any industry or enterprise, the owner raises wages until the labor shortage is filled.
Seymour Flops
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Among the thousands of rapists, drug dealers, murderers and shoplifters deported so far, how many farm workers were mixed in?
eagle1462010
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Mexico's president says he won't fight drug cartels on US orders, calls it a 'Mexico First' policy
But on Friday, while discussing his refusal to go after the cartels, he made it clear he viewed it as part of what he called a “Mexico First” policy.
“We are not going to act as policemen for any foreign government,” López Obrador said at his daily news briefing. “Mexico First. Our home comes first.”
But on Friday, while discussing his refusal to go after the cartels, he made it clear he viewed it as part of what he called a “Mexico First” policy.
“We are not going to act as policemen for any foreign government,” López Obrador said at his daily news briefing. “Mexico First. Our home comes first.”
Mac-7
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Now is the time for everyone to swallow their pride and compromise with the other side
An unaccompanied guest worker program for farm workers would be a good place to start
Mac-7
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She’s being stupid
Her government is under threat from the drug cartels
Yes, trump has hurt her pride
But Mexico is in deep doodoo and needs US assistance
eagle1462010
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It already exists.
H1-2A & H1-2B
They have to pay fees....have to guarantee minimum wages.......have to pay per diem or provide housing.....OSHA rules apply.....and the Workers have to pay TAXES.
eagle1462010
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Drug Cartels OWN MEXICO. They have their own armies and Own a third of all land in Mexico
Mac-7
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But its not universal.
Farmer A would be at a severe disadvantage if he’s the only one doing it
Mac-7
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That means we may never get mexico to cooperate with us in a war against the narco terrorists
eagle1462010
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Exactly. And farmers in America who play by the rules get FUCKED NOW.
By bringing in illegals business can lower pay, and violate the fuck out of OSHA
eagle1462010
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Politucians there are the Cartel
Mac-7
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I’m afraid so
But the Cartel has to be crushed
I hope we can do so with Mexican government cooperation, but either way it must be done
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