How to Slow Climate Change With a Fake Volcano

Stephanie

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good grief, these people are more dangerous to us than a little warming and cooling something the earth has been doing for MILLIONS OF YEARS NOW

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There’s a cheap, quick, dirty, and controversial way to combat global warming that isn’t on the agenda of the United Nations climate summit in Paris, which runs from Nov. 30 to Dec. 11. It involves replicating the planet-cooling effect of a volcanic eruption. When Mount Pinatubo in the Philippines blew in 1991, its emissions briefly reversed most of the global warming that had occurred since the start of the Industrial Revolution. The idea is to mimic Pinatubo by using a fleet of modified business jets to inject fine droplets of sulfuric acid into the stratosphere, where they would combine with water vapor to form fine sulfate particles that reflect sunlight away from the earth.

Scientists estimate that a few grams of sulfate would be enough to counteract the warming effect of a ton of carbon dioxide. The cost of this planetary protection? Perhaps 0.01 percent of the annual world gross domestic product. In other words, almost nothing. The cost of stopping the entire planet from warming would be not much more per decade than the $6 billion the Italian government is spending to protect one city, Venice, from rising sea levels. That’s the calculation of a leading figure in the debate over so-called geoengineering, David Keith, a professor of applied physics at Harvard and of public policy at Harvard’s Kennedy School of Government.

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Naturally, there’s a catch. Several, in fact. The sun shield would merely mask the rising concentration of greenhouse gases, like perfuming a skunk. It adds one pollutant to counteract another. It could reverse progress toward closing the hole in the ozone layer by ripping apart ozone molecules. Sulfate particles falling from the sky could cause air pollution deaths. It would leave fertile coral reefs exposed to deadly bleaching because it wouldn’t do anything about ocean acidification. It could even become a cause for war if one country decided it was harmed by another’s climate meddling. Even Keith allows that it’s a “brutally ugly technical fix.”


Critics’ biggest worry: It would be perceived as a get-out-of-jail-free card for the planet. If pausing global warming is as easy as sending a fleet of modified Gulfstream G650s into the stratosphere with payloads of sulfuric acid, the weak pressure to cut back on emissions of greenhouse gases might get even weaker. That’s why you won’t find it mentioned on the agenda of the Paris summit, a major event that’s expected to draw 45,000 people from more than 190 countries.

This leaves humanity in a strange place. An effective but flawed technique for stopping global warming is shunted aside while negotiators try to fix the problem the right way, through cutting emissions. In Paris, China and India will point fingers at the wealthier nations, which will point right back. Meanwhile, temperatures keep going up. As the Parisian philosopher Voltaire might have reminded the UN: The perfect is the enemy of the good.

Every few years, geoengineering, the umbrella term for ideas such as volcano replication, gets rediscovered—and promptly beaten back down. Edward Teller, the father of the hydrogen bomb and an inspiration for Stanley Kubrick’s Dr. Strangelove, was an early enthusiast of what backers ambitiously call solar radiation management. That pedigree hasn’t exactly won over environmentalists. Steven Levitt and Stephen Dubner were castigated for hyping it in their 2009 best-seller, SuperFreakonomics. Advocates have been accused of playing God, committing chemical terrorism, weaponizing weather, even risking the collapse of civilization. Climate scientist Raymond Pierrehumbert of the University of Chicago calls the acid-spraying idea “barking mad.”


all of the barking Mad article here:
How to Slow Climate Change With a Fake Volcano
 
First, it's a very bad idea. Second, we put ourselves in the position where we find it necessary to use some very bad ideas to get ourselves out of an even worse fix. You people are doing your very best to create that situation.
 
Volcanic winter effects aren't permanent. Climate change is. So any 'fix' is only temporary.

This kind of hairbrained idea reminds me of my own for military attacks disguised as natural disasters. :) Could use conventional explosives and drilling through the 'plug' of think it's Mt. Etna which is preventing another eruption and actually cause one. Or similarly, use drilling and nuclear explosives to make Yellowstone cook off.

Have also considered whether naval submarines could do something like this for faultlines to cause earthquakes and tsunamis. Drill down through a faultline, place explosives to destablize it, earthquake ensues causing a tsunami.

Lots of theoretically possible 'James Bondian villian' stuff out there. Only real question is have any natural disasters actually come about because of human direction?
 
Now wait a minute...the hairball just said the other day that volcanoes are what brought the earth out of a very deep ice age....which is it? Do volcanoes cause cooling or do they cause warming....or are they like magic CO2 and cause both depending on what the AGW hoax requires of them?
 
just ran across this. people need to ask themselves this question and then wake up

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Why Is Government Involved In The Global Warming Religion?
Dec 1st, 2015 Environment, Government, Regulation
by Bill B. May

Today, I’ve posted two articles about global warming, coinciding with the big conference in Paris. The first, Paris In the Fall: COP-21 vs Climate Evidence, shatters most of the evidence about human-caused global warming. The second is NASA’s arguments attempting to justify the conclusion that man is the culprit, Climate change: How do we know?.

I’ve been convinced for a long time that the global warming issue is a religion. There are believers and non-believers and they both have their arguments. They try to use science to justify their positions. But basically, they believe no matter what evidence is presented. For example, a basic scientific fact is that the poles on Mars have been melting over the last decades, coinciding with that of Earth. There is NO man-made carbon on Mars so the believers in global warming must answer the question, is this just a coincidence or is it possible that the sun is influencing things on Mars and Earth in a similar fashion? Believers ignore this question and keep believing in their models which are invariably wrong because they don’t even predict accurately the history of temperatures.


all of it here:
http://www.newsbalance.com/why-is-government-involved-in-the-global-warming-religion/
 
It does appear that global warming is a religion...so why is the government so heavily involved in promoting a religion?

Clearly they are ignoring the First Amendment.
 
It appears to be a very strong scientific consensus based on overwhelming evidence. Unless you also think gravity, relativity, physics and chemistry to be religions as well.
 
Now wait a minute...the hairball just said the other day that volcanoes are what brought the earth out of a very deep ice age....which is it? Do volcanoes cause cooling or do they cause warming....or are they like magic CO2 and cause both depending on what the AGW hoax requires of them?
Now wait a minute, have you ever engaged your brain before putting your mouth in motion? The immediate effects of the aerosols that a volcano put up are two to five years of more reflected sunlight. Then most of the sulphates settle out of the atmosphere, but the CO2 put into the atmosphere stays there for hundreds to thousands of years. And, with ice covering the rock, to normal weathering processes that remove CO2 from the atmosphere were not happening, so the CO2 from the volcanoes accumulated until the atmosphere was warm enough to melt the ice.
 
It does appear that global warming is a religion...so why is the government so heavily involved in promoting a religion?

Clearly they are ignoring the First Amendment.
Hey buddy boy, ever consider doing something other than trolling with ignorance?

Geo-engineering is a last resort, and I hope it does not come to that.
 
It does appear that global warming is a religion...so why is the government so heavily involved in promoting a religion?

Clearly they are ignoring the First Amendment.
Hey buddy boy, ever consider doing something other than trolling with ignorance?

Geo-engineering is a last resort, and I hope it does not come to that.
Hey old fuck, ever consider explaining why my post is trolling with ignorance?
 
First of all, AGW is hardly a religion. It is science backed up by physics. Absorption spectra of GHGs are real, as is the resultant warming of the atmosphere, and melting of the cryosphere. Our, and all the other governments are involved because, unlike fools like you, they realize that the scientists are not making things up, they are reporting real observations.
 
Now wait a minute...the hairball just said the other day that volcanoes are what brought the earth out of a very deep ice age....which is it? Do volcanoes cause cooling or do they cause warming....or are they like magic CO2 and cause both depending on what the AGW hoax requires of them?

I explained it well. You threw some insults, didn't address it, and ran off crying like the sweet little bitch that everyone knows you to be. You know, same thing you always do.

Here, let me repost it. Watching you wet yourself and run, that never gets old.

GLOBAL WARMING? NASA says Antarctic has been COOLING for past | Page 12 | US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum

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The intelligent people understand that a small outgassing of CO2 over millions of years on a planet without CO2 sinks will slowly raise CO2 levels over those millions of years. That same rate of outgassing on a planet with active CO2 sinks won't raise CO2 levels at all, being the CO2 gets absorbed by the sinks.
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