Has the United States surrendered to anthropogenic climate change?

[schmidlap]

Who gives a ****. AGW is now about power. It has NOTHING to do with science, and everything to do with giving government power over its people.

I await the comprehensive analysis by Trump that has resulted in the discrediting of the scientific consensus that had confirmed that spewing millions of tons of industrial greenhouse gases into the atmosphere over the past couple of centuries has impacted and continues to impact the climate as had been predicted.

Where is the required revisionist data?

 

[Hafar1014]

I am in no way promoting China's energy policies.

I am conforming the expanding global market for clean energy technologies that the retrograde U.S. has surrendered.

There is no viable market for renewable energy. Solar and wind will never meet the demand for AI. Economies will be dependent on AI in the near future and only nuclear and fossil fuels can meet that demand. Add EV car mandates and you will have nationwide shutdown that will last for months if not years.
Thats why America has stopped subsidies for renewables and are shifting to LNG oil Coal and nuclear. Low cost reliable, doesnt need backup, lasts longer, and creates secure energy grid. Europe keeps building renewables and manufacturing will leave.

 

[schmidlap]

There is no viable market for renewable energy. Solar and wind will never meet the demand for AI. Economies will be dependent on AI in the near future and only nuclear and fossil fuels can meet that demand. Add EV car mandates and you will have nationwide shutdown that will last for months if not years.
Thats why America has stopped subsidies for renewables and are shifting to LNG oil Coal and nuclear. Low cost reliable, doesnt need backup, lasts longer, and creates secure energy grid. Europe keeps building renewables and manufacturing will leave.

The global market for clean energy technology is a demonstrable reality, and China is benefiting from from Trump's irrational reversion to dirty fuels.

China's clean energy exports have reached record levels, with a total of $120 billion in clean energy-related products exported through July 2025. This figure surpasses the $80 billion exported by the U.S. during the same period. The growth in clean tech exports is driven by the increasing demand for renewable power globally, which is cheaper and faster to install than traditional sources of electricity. China's dominance in the clean energy market is evident, with the country being the world's largest supplier of clean tech products. However, the U.S. has faced challenges due to policies and programs that have reversed and are expected to continue reversing, impacting the U.S. ability to keep pace with China's clean energy exports. 2025.

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[schmidlap]

Consensus is a political term, not a scientific one. And, like I said, the only thing the AGW fraudsters produce is computer derived fiction.

There is no actual science at all.

A consensus is formed in every scientific discipline when corroborative data accrues.

Deniers whining that the empirical data is fraudulent because they don't like the science is intellectually wanting, and surrenders the growing global market for clean energy technology to China.

Global market for key clean technologies set to triple to more than $2 trillion over the coming decade

Global market for key clean technologies set to triple to more than $2 trillion over the coming decade as energy transitions advance - News - IEA

Global market for key clean technologies set to triple to more than $2 trillion over the coming decade as energy transitions advance - News from the International Energy Agency

www.iea.org

 

[westwall]

The global market for clean energy technology is a demonstrable reality, and China is benefiting from from Trump's irrational reversion to dirty fuels.

China's clean energy exports have reached record levels, with a total of $120 billion in clean energy-related products exported through July 2025. This figure surpasses the $80 billion exported by the U.S. during the same period. The growth in clean tech exports is driven by the increasing demand for renewable power globally, which is cheaper and faster to install than traditional sources of electricity. China's dominance in the clean energy market is evident, with the country being the world's largest supplier of clean tech products. However, the U.S. has faced challenges due to policies and programs that have reversed and are expected to continue reversing, impacting the U.S. ability to keep pace with China's clean energy exports. 2025.

china clean energy export - Bing

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It's a demonstrable failure you meant to say. Incapable of meating base load needs, so always requires a fossil fuel back up. Which is why "clean" energy claims are both a lie, and more expensive than any other energy system.

Your continuing spewing of propaganda doesn't negate the fact that it is a failure.

 

[EMH]

A consensus is formed in every scientific discipline when corroborative data accrues

LOL!!!

Science is not about parroting a "consensus." Science starts with ACTUAL DATA and THEORY, not FUDGED FRAUD to "validate" a bogus "theory."

The ACTUAL DATA is as follows

1. NO WARMING in the ATMOSPHERE
2. NO WARMING in the OCEANS
3. NO BREAKOUT in CANE Activity
4. NO OCEAN RISE
5. NO ONGOING NET ICE MELT
6. NO RISE in SURFACE AIR PRESSURE


= EARTH NOT WARMING

 

[schmidlap]

It's a demonstrable failure you meant to say. Incapable of meating base load needs, so always requires a fossil fuel back up. Which is why "clean" energy claims are both a lie, and more expensive than any other energy system.

Your continuing spewing of propaganda doesn't negate the fact that it is a failure.

Even if you could concoct empirical data to refute the scientific consensus, you are still unable to deny the growing clean energy technology market that Trump has ceded to China.

China's Cleantech Exports Overtake US Fossil Fuel Energy​

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China's clean technology exports have surpassed those of the US, with a record-breaking $20 billion in August alone. This growth is driven by the demand for electric vehicles, solar panels, and batteries, which are now the fastest-growing source of electricity generation globally. The US, on the other hand, has been focusing on fossil fuel exports, which have been valued at $80 billion through July 2025. This divergence in export strategies highlights the changing dynamics of global trade and energy consumption. ​

 

[schmidlap]

LOL!!!

Science is not about parroting a "consensus." Science starts with ACTUAL DATA and THEORY, not FUDGED FRAUD to "validate" a bogus "theory."

The ACTUAL DATA is as follows

1. NO WARMING in the ATMOSPHERE
2. NO WARMING in the OCEANS
3. NO BREAKOUT in CANE Activity
4. NO OCEAN RISE
5. NO ONGOING NET ICE MELT
6. NO RISE in SURFACE AIR PRESSURE


= EARTH NOT WARMING

Parroting science deniers' aberrant denial dogma does not refute the science.

China has captured the multi-billion dollar clean energy technology market, but Trump has jumped all over the international glitzy sneaker demand.

 

[Hafar1014]

A consensus is formed in every scientific discipline when corroborative data accrues.

Deniers whining that the empirical data is fraudulent because they don't like the science is intellectually wanting, and surrenders the growing global market for clean energy technology to China.

Global market for key clean technologies set to triple to more than $2 trillion over the coming decade

Global market for key clean technologies set to triple to more than $2 trillion over the coming decade as energy transitions advance - News - IEA

Global market for key clean technologies set to triple to more than $2 trillion over the coming decade as energy transitions advance - News from the International Energy Agency

www.iea.org

There is no consensus in science. There is no research that shows CO2 makes the earth warm or that human activity does.

 

[westwall]

Even if you could concoct empirical data to refute the scientific consensus, you are still unable to deny the growing clean energy technology market that Trump has ceded to China.

China's Cleantech Exports Overtake US Fossil Fuel Energy​

​

China's clean technology exports have surpassed those of the US, with a record-breaking $20 billion in August alone. This growth is driven by the demand for electric vehicles, solar panels, and batteries, which are now the fastest-growing source of electricity generation globally. The US, on the other hand, has been focusing on fossil fuel exports, which have been valued at $80 billion through July 2025. This divergence in export strategies highlights the changing dynamics of global trade and energy consumption. ​

Yeah, it's easy to surpass everyone else when your business model includes the use of slave labor, the wanton pollution of the countryside which the production of solar modules entails.

The USA will never be able to compete against China because we actually fight pollution and don't use slave labor.

Funny that.

So, your claims, while accurate in terms of sales, are a lie as regards actual cleanliness.

 

[schmidlap]

There is no consensus in science. There is no research that shows CO2 makes the earth warm or that human activity does.

False. You can pretend that, say, cardiologists have not formed a consistent and coherent understanding of cardiology, but, while modifications and refinements are inevitable, they are in agreement concerning the basics of their discipline.

There is a wealth of data to confirm that human activity has and will continue to impact climate. You cannot irresponsibly spew 50 million tons of greenhouse gases into the atmosphere every year and fancy that it all just goes, "Poof!"

 

[westwall]

False. You can pretend that, say, cardiologists have not formed a consistent and coherent understanding of cardiology, but, while modifications and refinements are inevitable, they are in agreement concerning the basics of their discipline.

There is a wealth of data to confirm that human activity has and will continue to impact climate. You cannot irresponsibly spew 50 million tons of greenhouse gases into the atmosphere every year and fancy that it all just goes, "Poof!"

There is ZERO empirical data supporting AGW. None. There are only computer models that are proven to be wildly inaccurate.

That's a fact.

 

[Hafar1014]

False. You can pretend that, say, cardiologists have not formed a consistent and coherent understanding of cardiology, but, while modifications and refinements are inevitable, they are in agreement concerning the basics of their discipline.

There is a wealth of data to confirm that human activity has and will continue to impact climate. You cannot irresponsibly spew 50 million tons of greenhouse gases into the atmosphere every year and fancy that it all just goes, "Poof!"

Why Most Published Research Findings Are False - PMC

There is increasing concern that most current published research findings are false. The probability that a research claim is true may depend on study power and bias, the number of other studies on the same question, and, importantly, the ratio of ...

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Why Most Published Research Findings Are False​

John P A Ioannidis

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PMCID: PMC1182327 PMID: 16060722
See "Power, Reliability, and Heterogeneous Results", e386.
See "The Clinical Interpretation of Research", e395.
See "Author's Reply", e398.
See "Truth, Probability, and Frameworks", e361.
See "Why Most Published Research Findings Are False: Problems in the Analysis" in volume 4, e168.
See "Why Most Published Research Findings Are False: Author's Reply to Goodman and Greenland" in volume 4, e215.
See "Why Current Publication Practices May Distort Science" in volume 5, e201.
This article has been corrected. See PLoS Med. 2022 Aug 25;19(8):e1004085.
See "Minimizing Mistakes and Embracing Uncertainty", e272.
There is increasing concern that most current published research findings are false. The probability that a research claim is true may depend on study power and bias, the number of other studies on the same question, and, importantly, the ratio of true to no relationships among the relationships probed in each scientific field. In this framework, a research finding is less likely to be true when the studies conducted in a field are smaller; when effect sizes are smaller; when there is a greater number and lesser preselection of tested relationships; where there is greater flexibility in designs, definitions, outcomes, and analytical modes; when there is greater financial and other interest and prejudice; and when more teams are involved in a scientific field in chase of statistical significance. Simulations show that for most study designs and settings, it is more likely for a research claim to be false than true. Moreover, for many current scientific fields, claimed research findings may often be simply accurate measures of the prevailing bias. In this essay, I discuss the implications of these problems for the conduct and interpretation of research.

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Published research findings are sometimes refuted by subsequent evidence, says Ioannidis, with ensuing confusion and disappointment.

 

[EMH]

Parroting science deniers' aberrant denial dogma does not refute the science

Who is EMH parroting???


LMFAO!!!

PARROTS assume that because they are too stupid to think for themselves, everyone else also must be that stupid too...



USMB Environment Section has been asked repeatedly to find one single source that has "Land Near The Poles" Theory.

There is only one source = EMH.

The cause of this... 2 full years of "silence" from homO, that's how long the DOJ and FBI have known CO2 FRAUD is/was always 100% bullshit...

The Silence of US President Obama on Climate Change-A Serious Ethical Lapse?

Editor’s note on the following entry. On the very day that the following entry was posted, President Obama mentioned climate change for the first time in a long time in a speech at the Unive…

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Challenged By MTV On His Climate Silence, Obama Says It's A 'Critical Issue' And Is 'Surprised It Didn't Come Up' | Hill Heat

Today, after the history-making silence on global warming during the national debates, MTV’s Sway Williams challenged President Barack Obama to address his clim...

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Climate silence will cost the United States

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YOU were asked to find one single "climate scientist" who can refute anything EMH says. You can't. They can't.

THEY COULDN'T IN 2010 EITHER.....

 

[schmidlap]

Just to save climate change deniers posting their nonsense, I respect corroborating experts in scientific disciplines who base their conclusions on the study of empirical data that they compile and analyze.

I disregard all convicted felons with no expertise or data whatever who express aberrant notions in any scientific field.

The deniers are free to imagine Black immigrants eating pet cats and dogs in Ohio and that sort of thing, of course.

 

[EMH]

that they compile and analyze.

That's not what they do. They get data showing no warming and FUDGE IT.


It would be like having the highest respect for accounting by honoring Andrew Fastow...

 

[EMH]

free to imagine Black immigrants eating pet cats

never been to the Caribbean, have you...

They DO eat cats there...

You use the term BLACK. The real term is Caribbean, like Haitian and others...

 

[westwall]

Just to save climate change deniers posting their nonsense, I respect corroborating experts in scientific disciplines who base their conclusions on the study of empirical data that they compile and analyze.

I disregard all convicted felons with no expertise or data whatever who express aberrant notions in any scientific field.

The deniers are free to imagine Black immigrants eating pet cats and dogs in Ohio and that sort of thing, of course.

We disregard "science" based entirely on computer derived fiction.

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

It's about time, most are tired of chasing a hoax.

Do you have children? Grand children? Talk to them, Ask them what the think . Ask them what they fear. Ask them what kind of world they want as they and their children move through life. You political bias and bullshit is endangering them and the rest of us. Wake the **** up.

 

[westwall]

Do you have children? Grand children? Talk to them

I'm a geologist, I will talk with fellow scientists. We all know it's a fraud.