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How The Democrats Created Red China

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1. For all of his many faults, Progressive Democrat President Woodrow Wilson was strongly opposed to communism. He understood it to be antithetical to American values and direction. “Wilson dubbed the Bolsheviks "barbarians," "terrorists" and "tyrants." He said they were engaged in a "brutal" campaign of "mass terrorism," of "blood and terror," of "indiscriminate slaughter" through "cunning" and "savage oppression." The "violent and tyrannical" Bolsheviks were "the most consummate sneaks in the world," and Bolshevism was an "ugly, poisonous thing." Wilson warned that the Bolsheviks were pushing an "expansionist" ideology that they wanted to export "throughout the world," including into the United States.” The Wilson you never knew - USATODAY.com



2. “Containment was a United States policy using numerous strategies to prevent the spread of communism abroad. A component of the Cold War, this policy was a response to a series of moves by the Soviet Union to enlarge communist influence in Eastern Europe, China, Korea, and Vietnam. It represented a middle-ground position between détente and rollback.

The basis of the doctrine was articulated in a 1946 cable by U.S. diplomat George F. Kennan. As a description of U.S. foreign policy, the word originated in a report Kennan submitted to U.S. Defense SecretaryJames Forrestal in 1947, a report that was later used in a magazine article. It is a translation of the Frenchcordon sanitaire, used to describe Western policy toward the Soviet Union in the 1920s” . Containment - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia




3. Then the World War found the United States and the USSR with the same interests. “While American presence in Russia was modest and equivocal, Russian presence in wartime America was so large that they had to set up a corporate headquarters on Sixteenth Street in Washington. One of the executives in th huge staff was Victor Kravchenko, metallurgist, engineer, executive, and captain in the Red Army. And the first Soviet “defector.”
John V. Fleming, “The Anti-Communist Manifestos”

4. Unlike Wilson, FDR was completely taken in by the communists and ‘Uncle Joe’ Stalin.” He laughed when warned of spy networks. ‘Moreover, it is obvious that a penetration so complete would have been impossible if the Communists had not been able to depend on the blindness or indifference of many of the far larger number of ordinary liberals who dominated the Roosevelt Administration. As early as the late 1930s, even known Communists in government were often regarded by their colleagues as merely "liberals in a hurry." And during the war, of course, they could be excused as simply enthusiasts for America's doughty ally, "good old Joe." Small wonder, then, that liberals, after the onset of the Cold War with the Soviet Union in 1946, dreaded so profoundly the disclosure of the appalling degree of governmental penetration that they now began to suspect the Communists had achieved on their watch in the 1930s and the first half of the 1940s.’
The Claremont Institute - A Closer Look Under The Bed

a. Whittaker Chambers wrote in his book “WITNESS” that liberals are/were incapable of ever effectively fighting Communism because they did not see anything in Communism that was antithetical to their own beliefs. In short, Liberals are Communists and Communists are Liberals.

b."Senator Joseph McCarthy of Wisconsin repeatedly criticized IPR [Institute of Pacific Relations] and its former chairman Philip Jessup. McCarthy observed that Frederick V. Field, T.A. Bisson, and Owen Lattimore were active in IPR and claimed that they had worked to turn American China policy in favor of the Communist Party of China."
Institute of Pacific Relations - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia




5. From the book “Blacklisted From History,” by M. Stanton Evans: Soviet agents in the U.S. State department (and Treasury) worked actively to damage confidence of our government, in the (Nationalist) Chinese fighting in their own country, as our allies against the Japanese, and in favor of the Communist unsurgency of Mao Tse-Tung and Chou En-Lai.
While Chiang Kai-Shek was busy as our ally fighting the Japanese, White, Currie, Coe, Glasser, and Hiss were doing all they could to undermine him in favor of Mao and the communists.

a. “Another example of [Harry Dexter] White acting as an agent of influence for the Soviet Union was his obstruction of a proposed $200 million loan to Nationalist China in 1943, which he had been officially instructed to execute,[52] at a time when inflation was spiraling out of control.”
Harry Dexter White - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia




6. Consider the damage done by Leftist academics influencing Liberal politicians- Owen Lattimore: “…influential scholar ofCentral Asia, especially Mongolia. In the 1930s, he was editor of Pacific Affairs, a journal published by the Institute of Pacific Relations, and then taught at Johns Hopkins University from 1938 to 1963. During World War II, he was an advisor to Chiang Kai-shek and the American government and contributed extensively to the public debate.”
Owen Lattimore - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

a. Lattimore was leaking information to the Soviets while he was an advisor to Chiang Kai-shek and that the Soviets considered Lattimore to be "working for them". http://foia.fbi.gov/owenlatt/owenlatt1a.pdf

b. Lattimore was found to be a “conscious, articulate instrument of the Soviet conspiracy” by a unanimous Senate committee (William F. Buckley and Brent Bozell, McCarty and His Enemies, p. 274, quoting the Congressional Record)





7. Had it not been for communist academics and sympathetic Liberals public officials like FDR…..
“China poses the greatest threat to the economic independence and social freedom of the United States. As it begins to expand its economic strength and exerts greater and greater influence over other nations, China is carving a path straight towards knocking the U.S. out of position as the world’s leading and most prosperous nation and in doing so, if past history of rising and declining nations holds true, we are headed towards a military conflict with China in the next several years. This research paper will highlight the threats posed by the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) who runs the government in hopes of eliciting change at the citizen-level to re-ignite the torch of liberty for America and the world.” The China Threat Analysis | | TAP AmericaTAP America


Democrats, Liberal, Communists worked together to give the world the Red Chinese threat we have today.


Vote accordingly.
 

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Yes you read it right: The US helped put Mao in power!

Now the US is working to put Al Qaida and the Muslim Brotherhood in power in the Middle East.

Think about that when some TSA Agent is "keeping you safe against Al Qaida" by feeling your balls.
 
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Yes you read it right: The US helped put Mao in power!

Now the US is working to put Al Qaida and the Muslim Brotherhood in power in the Middle East.

Think about that when some TSA Agent is "keeping you safe against Al Qaida" by feeling your balls.



Actually, I don't quite see the TSA problem that you do.....but.....


When I started out I intended to include LBJ in Vietnam, Carter and Iran, releasing Islamofascism, and then exactly what you suggest re: the Middle East......
 

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Yes you read it right: The US helped put Mao in power!

Now the US is working to put Al Qaida and the Muslim Brotherhood in power in the Middle East.

Think about that when some TSA Agent is "keeping you safe against Al Qaida" by feeling your balls.



Actually, I don't quite see the TSA problem that you do.....but.....


When I started out I intended to include LBJ in Vietnam, Carter and Iran, releasing Islamofascism, and then exactly what you suggest re: the Middle East......
An actual Police Officer (not the TSA) cannot put his hands on you unless he is detaining or arresting you. All TSA hands-on searches are violations of the 4th Amendment.

I got a BIG problem with that.
 

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Yes you read it right: The US helped put Mao in power!

Now the US is working to put Al Qaida and the Muslim Brotherhood in power in the Middle East.

Think about that when some TSA Agent is "keeping you safe against Al Qaida" by feeling your balls.



Actually, I don't quite see the TSA problem that you do.....but.....


When I started out I intended to include LBJ in Vietnam, Carter and Iran, releasing Islamofascism, and then exactly what you suggest re: the Middle East......
An actual Police Officer (not the TSA) cannot put his hands on you unless he is detaining or arresting you. All TSA hands-on searches are violations of the 4th Amendment.

I got a BIG problem with that.

I do too. It is just another item in a long list of unconstitutional acts, committed by our out-of-control statist government.

The USA is not ruled by law. It is ruled by the elites. And a nation ruled by man, is destined for disaster.
 

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I get it. The Chinese are too dumb to do things on their own. :tinfoil:
 
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Yes you read it right: The US helped put Mao in power!

Now the US is working to put Al Qaida and the Muslim Brotherhood in power in the Middle East.

Think about that when some TSA Agent is "keeping you safe against Al Qaida" by feeling your balls.



Actually, I don't quite see the TSA problem that you do.....but.....


When I started out I intended to include LBJ in Vietnam, Carter and Iran, releasing Islamofascism, and then exactly what you suggest re: the Middle East......
An actual Police Officer (not the TSA) cannot put his hands on you unless he is detaining or arresting you. All TSA hands-on searches are violations of the 4th Amendment.

I got a BIG problem with that.

My reference was to the specific area you mentioned.....I've never had that particular prob, doc.
 
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I get it. The Chinese are too dumb to do things on their own. :tinfoil:


Actually.....once again you've proven that you don't get it.


1. Soviet spies not only passed information to Moskow....Stalin knew about the Atomic Bomb before VP Truman did.....

...but directed US foreign policy.

a. “On September 2, 1939, the day after the outbreak of war in Europe, Whittaker Chambers had told much of what he knew about Soviet espionage in the United States to Adolph Berle, Assistant Secretary of State and President’s Roosevelt’s advisor on internal security. Immediately afterwards, Berle drew up a memorandum for the President which listed Alger Hiss, Harry Dexter White and the other leading communists for whom Chambers acted as courier. One was a leading presidential aide, Lauchlin Currie….Roosevelt, however, was not interested. He seems to have dismissed the whole idea of espionage rings within his administration as absurd.”
‘The Sword and the Shield: The Mitrokhin Archives, the History of the KGB,” by Christopher Andrew and Vasili Mitrokhin, p.107


2. Because of how lax and/or sympatico Roosevelt and Liberals were about the Russian spies, they actually took the advice of Soviet agents as to how to carry out foreign policy. Russia wanted the Nationalists to lose in the Chinese civil war. They aided Mao, against Sun Yat Sen's successor, Chang Kai Chek.

From the OP:

"While Chiang Kai-Shek was busy as our ally fighting the Japanese, White, Currie, Coe, Glasser, and Hiss were doing all they could to undermine him in favor of Mao and the communists.

a. “Another example of [Harry Dexter] White acting as an agent of influence for the Soviet Union was his obstruction of a proposed $200 million loan to Nationalist China in 1943, which he had been officially instructed to execute,[52] at a time when inflation was spiraling out of control.”
Harry Dexter White - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Lattimore was the accepted expert to whom Roosevelt listened.....see the OP: he was a Soviet agent.


3. Not only did communist infiltration doom China to the madman, Mao...who was responsible for up to 75 million deaths in China....but the inaction of Roosevelt put us on a collision course with that nation.
 

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Good Lord. Where did you lift that from? The John Birch website...er, uh....I mean the Koch brothers website?

That's an awfully simplistic, slanted and revisionist look at history. Believe it or not, but liberals really aren't responsible for everything bad and Communism is dead: Dick Cheney and G.H.W. Bush said so.

They're not liars, are they?
 

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Good Lord. Where did you lift that from? The John Birch website...er, uh....I mean the Koch brothers website?

That's an awfully simplistic, slanted and revisionist look at history. Believe it or not, but liberals really aren't responsible for everything bad and Communism is dead: Dick Cheney and G.H.W. Bush said so.

They're not liars, are they?

Funny thing about the wikipedia reference in the OP is that it says none of the charges were ever proven and the chief Russian informant said he never considered Latimore to be a Communist. Way to go PC! :lol::lol::lol:
 

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Good Lord. Where did you lift that from? The John Birch website...er, uh....I mean the Koch brothers website?

That's an awfully simplistic, slanted and revisionist look at history. Believe it or not, but liberals really aren't responsible for everything bad and Communism is dead: Dick Cheney and G.H.W. Bush said so.

They're not liars, are they?

that's the chunky monkey's bread and butter

her southern strategy posts are classic
 

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Good Lord. Where did you lift that from? The John Birch website...er, uh....I mean the Koch brothers website?

That's an awfully simplistic, slanted and revisionist look at history. Believe it or not, but liberals really aren't responsible for everything bad and Communism is dead: Dick Cheney and G.H.W. Bush said so.

They're not liars, are they?
Do yourself a favor old man. Go do a little research on who financed Adolf Hitler in pre-war Germany then get back to us.

Go find out who sold the special gasoline additive that was required by the Nazi Luftwaffe. Go ahead man, I dare ya'!
 

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:lol:

Oh so now it's democrats that "created Red China" and not centuries of poverty, famine and pestilance wrought by corrupt and selfish monarchies and dynasties..

Man you gotta love it.
 

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Good Lord. Where did you lift that from? The John Birch website...er, uh....I mean the Koch brothers website?

That's an awfully simplistic, slanted and revisionist look at history. Believe it or not, but liberals really aren't responsible for everything bad and Communism is dead: Dick Cheney and G.H.W. Bush said so.

They're not liars, are they?
Do yourself a favor old man. Go do a little research on who financed Adolf Hitler in pre-war Germany then get back to us.
Go find out who sold the special gasoline additive that was required by the Nazi Luftwaffe. Go ahead man, I dare ya'!

I'll take Prescott Bush for 250..
 
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Good Lord. Where did you lift that from? The John Birch website...er, uh....I mean the Koch brothers website?

That's an awfully simplistic, slanted and revisionist look at history. Believe it or not, but liberals really aren't responsible for everything bad and Communism is dead: Dick Cheney and G.H.W. Bush said so.

They're not liars, are they?

Old guy?

That's "Ignorant Guy."


Have a library card? Use it.
 
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Good Lord. Where did you lift that from? The John Birch website...er, uh....I mean the Koch brothers website?

That's an awfully simplistic, slanted and revisionist look at history. Believe it or not, but liberals really aren't responsible for everything bad and Communism is dead: Dick Cheney and G.H.W. Bush said so.

They're not liars, are they?

Funny thing about the wikipedia reference in the OP is that it says none of the charges were ever proven and the chief Russian informant said he never considered Latimore to be a Communist. Way to go PC! :lol::lol::lol:


Pay attention....

Lattimore was found to be a “conscious, articulate instrument of the Soviet conspiracy” by a unanimous Senate committee (William F. Buckley and Brent Bozell, McCarty and His Enemies, p. 274, quoting the Congressional Record)
 
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:lol:

Oh so now it's democrats that "created Red China" and not centuries of poverty, famine and pestilance wrought by corrupt and selfish monarchies and dynasties..

Man you gotta love it.


Have someone with an education greater than fifth grade explain the OP to you....


....then see if you can find any errors in what has been presented.
 

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Good Lord. Where did you lift that from? The John Birch website...er, uh....I mean the Koch brothers website?

That's an awfully simplistic, slanted and revisionist look at history. Believe it or not, but liberals really aren't responsible for everything bad and Communism is dead: Dick Cheney and G.H.W. Bush said so.

They're not liars, are they?

Funny thing about the wikipedia reference in the OP is that it says none of the charges were ever proven and the chief Russian informant said he never considered Latimore to be a Communist. Way to go PC! :lol::lol::lol:


Pay attention....

Lattimore was found to be a “conscious, articulate instrument of the Soviet conspiracy” by a unanimous Senate committee (William F. Buckley and Brent Bozell, McCarty and His Enemies, p. 274, quoting the Congressional Record)

Pay attention. NOTHING stood up in court.
 
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Funny thing about the wikipedia reference in the OP is that it says none of the charges were ever proven and the chief Russian informant said he never considered Latimore to be a Communist. Way to go PC! :lol::lol::lol:


Pay attention....

Lattimore was found to be a “conscious, articulate instrument of the Soviet conspiracy” by a unanimous Senate committee (William F. Buckley and Brent Bozell, McCarty and His Enemies, p. 274, quoting the Congressional Record)

Pay attention. NOTHING stood up in court.

Right....

....and Bill Clinton isn't a rapist.
 

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Pay attention....

Lattimore was found to be a “conscious, articulate instrument of the Soviet conspiracy” by a unanimous Senate committee (William F. Buckley and Brent Bozell, McCarty and His Enemies, p. 274, quoting the Congressional Record)

Pay attention. NOTHING stood up in court.

Right....

....and Bill Clinton isn't a rapist.

Non-sequitur, the hallmark of someone who just lost an argument.
 

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