Zone1 Communism and Religion

[The Irish Ram]

Exactly! The Constitution says nothing about the non-belief in God. Nor does it say anything about “Church and State.” It’s simply the right of the people can worship freely in God.

And that our rights are God given:
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.

 

[buttercup]

“Within the philosophical system of Marx and Lenin, and at the heart of their psychology, hatred of God is the principal driving force, more fundamental than all their political and economic pretensions. Militant atheism is not merely incidental or marginal to Communist policy; it is not a side effect, but the central pivot. To achieve its diabolical ends, Communism needs to control a population devoid of religious and national feeling, and this entails the destruction of faith and nationhood. Communists proclaim both of these objectives openly, and just as openly go about carrying them out.”​

Alexsandr Solzhenitsyn1

What's interesting is that Karl Marx not only hated God (even though he came from a nominally christian background) but reportedly, he was practically a satanist. Richard Wurmbrand wrote a book on that topic. I think I read part of it a long time ago, but I wish I still had that book because if true I think it makes perfect sense... considering how evil and murderous communist regimes have been historically.

 

[Picaro]

What's interesting is that Karl Marx not only hated God (even though he came from a nominally christian background) but reportedly, he was practically a satanist. Richard Wurmbrand wrote a book on that topic. I think I read part of it a long time ago, but I wish I still had that book because if true I think it makes perfect sense... considering how evil and murderous communist regimes have been historically.

Most 'Marxists' eventually out themselves as perverts and sociopaths of one stripe or another. Babbling about Marx is just a cover veneer.

 

[ReinyDays]

What we did in 1776 was insure that the government didn't encroach on religion, not the other way around. Our government relied heavily on religion in 1776.
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I'm afraid you're mistaken ... to this very day, the English Monarch is both Head-of-State and Head-of-Church de jure ... and this was the norm for the day across Europe ... Jesus is the King of Kings, so all mortal Kings must bow their knees to Him or His Earthly representative, who is the Pope under the RCC, King Charles III for the Church of England and the Tzar for the Russian Orthodox Church ... again, de jure ...

It's a well documented fact that England purged herself of non-Angelicans and shipped the Blasphermers to the American Colonies ... so obviously, the new American State allowed for blasphemy in all it's forms ... "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof ..." we have no National Church established here in the United States ...

In Zone 1 discussions ... we never expect the Spanish Inquisition ...

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c.f. Whitehouse v Gay News Ltd [sic](1979) AC 617 at 635, HL [United Kingdom]

 

[The Irish Ram]

Our founding fathers knew that we got our start by a group of people who were forced to flee to a veritable wilderness in order to practice their faith in peace, and insured that no American would have to do the same.
Nowhere in the Bible does Jesus tell us to bow to an earthly representative/Pope. Nor does the King of England represent Christ. Just the opposite. He backs the New World Order 100%. They are the enemy of Christ. The Bible tells us that Satan is the Prince behind the Kings until Christ returns.

 

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Our founding fathers knew that we got our start by a group of people who were forced to flee to a veritable wilderness in order to practice their faith in peace, and insured that no American would have to do the same.
Nowhere in the Bible does Jesus tell us to bow to an earthly representative/Pope. Nor does the King of England represent Christ. Just the opposite. He backs the New World Order 100%. They are the enemy of Christ. The Bible tells us that Satan is the Prince behind the Kings until Christ returns.

Do you have pastors and deacons in your church?

 

[The Irish Ram]

Yes.

 

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Yes.

Do they help lead you in your spiritual discovery and journey with Christ?

 

[ReinyDays]

Marxism in a nutshell:

 

[The Irish Ram]

Do they help lead you in your spiritual discovery and journey with Christ?

No.

 

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No.

No help at all. Got it.

 

[surada]

Most 'Marxists' eventually out themselves as perverts and sociopaths of one stripe or another. Babbling about Marx is just a cover veneer.

Bolshevism was also “evangelistic” in its godlessness, attempting to spread atheism worldwide through the doctrines and propaganda of the international Communist Party. The Bolsheviks weren't merely atheists but militant atheists, who created a state that was actively anti-religious in all of its policies.

 

[The Irish Ram]

No help at all. Got it.

None. But they would help if I needed it. I help them.

 

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None. But they would help if I needed it. I help them.

And you never hear them preach.

 

[The Irish Ram]

And you never hear them preach.

Sure, I can't tell you how many times that man has taken us around Mt. Sinai. Does his preaching have any impact on my relationship with Christ? No. That is between me and Christ.

 

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Sure, I can't tell you how many times that man has taken us around Mt. Sinai. Does his preaching have any impact on my relationship with Christ? No. That is between me and Christ.

And yet I am somehow different than you. Amazing.

 

[The Irish Ram]

And yet I am somehow different than you. Amazing.

We are all unique.

 

[Picaro]

Bolshevism was also “evangelistic” in its godlessness, attempting to spread atheism worldwide through the doctrines and propaganda of the international Communist Party. The Bolsheviks weren't merely atheists but militant atheists, who created a state that was actively anti-religious in all of its policies.

Yes, but Russians have also been imperialistic for hundreds of years; Marxism was just another cover for 'same old stuff, different day' for the Soviets. They continue to be so today.

 

[Picaro]

we have no National Church established here in the United States ...

The Anglicans, essentially Catholics, were campaigning to become exactly that before the war and after, hence the evangelicals getting behind the Baptists' platform of keeping govt. out of religion. They voted for Jefferson almost 100%, according to Forrest MacDonald's book.

The Presidency of Thomas Jefferson

Thomas Jefferson occupies a special niche in the hagiology of American Founding Fathers. His name is invoked for a staggering range of causes; statists and l...

kansaspress.ku.edu

 

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We are all unique.

Except Catholics.