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I'm sure you wish there wasn't but there it is. 110.7 tWh is the amount of energy that needs to be stored by batteries to eliminate burning gasoline and diesel.
Didn't say you did. It's based off of kWh.I don't get your point?
If a person is on a long trip with an ICE engine, and refills with gas 3 times a day, that does not mean you need 3 engines a day.
The lithium batteries of an EV can be recharged multiple times daily, so the energy consumption does not necessarily equate to how many batteries you need.
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Didn't say you did. It's based off of kWh.
And that is totally wrong.
There is an exact formal definition of socialism.
Any time people decide to jointly pool funds for a common resource, that is socialism.
The most common example are public schools.
Socialism does not seek equality at all, through uniformity or any other means.
There are no defeats or incongruities with socialism.
Socialism does not require or desire big government.
Since it is done by the people in the community, it has to be local. small, and democratic.
Socialism has never failed, and constantly is more common and growing, as countries get bigger and resources more scarce.
That is because socialism is vastly more efficient.
You do not have third parties skimming off layers of profit.
Socialism does NOT AT ALL inhibit private property in any way, at all.
Socialism just recognized the obvious fact that shared property can sometimes be the most efficient and cost effective.
For example, all other oil producing countries, except the US, has a socialized petroleum company, in order to provide cheaper gasoline.
What could possibly be bad about that, and why is the US about the only oil producing country that does not do that?
It's the only way to make that calculation because that is the energy that is being used from fossil fuels that you want to replace.The point is energy consumption is a bad way to estimate battery needs, because you need the same number of batteries whether you rarely take short trips or if you often take very long trips.
The energy consumption of rare and short trips will be tiny compared to the energy consumption of lots of long trips, but the battery needs are the same.
Seriously?How would a Russian know anything at all about socialism
It's the only way to make that calculation because that is the energy that is being used from fossil fuels that you want to replace.
Actually the energy equivalence of the fossil fuels we burn in internal combustion engines on a daily basis is the single most relevant fact when it comes to replacing the fossil fuels we burn in internal combustion engines on a daily basis.I disagree because the amount of energy is not relevant.
If we all time shared a few vehicles, we could use the same energy, but have very little battery production.
Seriously?
So the fact that the author grew up in Communist USSR has no bearing?Russia is about the most anti-socialist country on the planet.
Socialism is where people locally share some resources in order to have more local control over it, instead of being at the mercy of some distant profiteer.
Russia is all distant profiteers, and the exact opposite of socialism.
If Russia was not profit motivated, then there would be no wealthy oligarchs.
Russia has always been wealthy oligarchs ever since Stalin murdered all the socialists.
Actually the energy equivalence of the fossil fuels we burn in internal combustion engines on a daily basis is the single most relevant fact when it comes to replacing the fossil fuels we burn in internal combustion engines on a daily basis.
This isn't about battery production. Batteries can be manufactured for different kWh's. This is about replacing fossil fuels. And to replace fossil fuels you have to start with the energy of the fossil fuels you use on a daily basis because that is the energy you need to provide on a daily basis.Not when it comes to battery production.
You do not know how many batteries you need from the amount of gasoline we currently use.
If very few ICE engines are run almost constantly, then the energy consumption would be high, but the same energy consumption could be created with very many ICE engines hardly ever being used.
But clearly few ICE constantly running would need far fewer batteries if replace by EVs, than very many rarely used ICE.
This isn't about battery production. Batteries can be manufactured for different kWh's. This is about replacing fossil fuels. And to replace fossil fuels you have to start with the energy of the fossil fuels you use on a daily basis because that is the energy you need to provide on a daily basis.
Internal combustion engines run on fossil fuels. It's the fossil fuels which have people's panties all wadded up.No, this thread premise is only about battery production and the amount of lithium needed.
Here is the thread opening again:
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How much lithium is needed to replace all internal combustion engines in the world?
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And this is NOT at all about replacing fossil fuels because all EVs are run by using the same fossil fuels that ICE engine now use. The only difference is that with EVs, the fossil fuels are burned at the electrical power plant instead of at the vehicle.
EVs get the same emissions from burning fossil fuels as an ICE vehicle getting 29 mpg.
Both EVs and ICE vehicles run by burning fossil fuels.
There is no other source of energy.
The only advantage of EVs is that the burning of fossil fuels can be done more efficiently at a large remote power plant.
It's the only way to make that calculation because that is the energy that is being used from fossil fuels that you want to replace.
Internal combustion engines run on fossil fuels. It's the fossil fuels which have people's panties all wadded up.
Does it bother you that it will take 17 trillion kg of lithium to replace gasoline and diesel?
Yes, but in Utopia all of the electricity will be generated from solar and wind.Sorry, but that makes no sense.
Sure it is the energy of current fossil fuel burning that you want to replace, but using lithium battery EVs does not at all reduce the need or amount of fossil fuel burning.
You still have to burn the same amount of fossil fuel, in order to charge the lithium batteries.
Its a wash.
Some would argue you have to even burn more fossil fuel, due to all that extra battery weight you have to cart around.
I know. I can't help you figure this out.Lithium does not replace gasoline or diesel.
You have to still burn the fossil fuel in order to charge the lithium.
Lithium is not an energy source.
Its just for energy storage.
