How much have U.S. farmers been affected by illegal immigrants being deported?

[Luckyone]

A problem created by career useless politicians.

They love their slave labor.

Again, more complaining and blaming but offering no solution. That is called negative stupidity

 

[eagle1462010]

You are assuming a lot but even then you are making my point. Who is going to pay for deporting those illegal aliens tilling the fields? We are, in the form of paying higher prices.

Bottom line, Trump is supposed to make our lives better and help bring inflation down so we have more money for other things and he is doing the opposite

Again you refuse to look past we need these slaves to get cheap food.

Same as you defend China slave labor.

Where are your Career politicians fixing this?

They dont GAF about them.

 

[Zincwarrior]

How are those soybean sales to China now? Its got to suck to vote for Trump, then get your ass kicked by Trump.

 

[Luckyone]

Again you refuse to look past we need these slaves to get cheap food.

Same as you defend China slave labor.

Where are your Career politicians fixing this?

They dont GAF about them.

that is not part of the OP but when you say "slaves', you are wrong, Slaves are people that are forced to work without choice. These people came here by choice, chose those jobs and at that pay. That is not slavery but Capitalism. Ask McDonald’s, Walmart and Target why their profits have risen but they pay their employees only the minimum hourly wage. Is that slavery?

 

[Paradoxical#1]

You are assuming a lot but even then you are making my point. Who is going to pay for deporting those illegal aliens tilling the fields? We are, in the form of paying higher prices.

Bottom line, Trump is supposed to make our lives better and help bring inflation down so we have more money for other things and he is doing the opposite

I am eager to pay higher prices to get rid of the scourge that are illegal aliens. You?

 

[Luckyone]

I am eager to pay higher prices to get rid of the scourge that are illegal aliens. You?

You must then not be poor or middle class. Only the rich can do that. A poor or middleclass person has to choose between food or paying rent, health insurance, school, etc. It is one or the other.

 

[eagle1462010]

that is not part of the OP but when you say "slaves', you are wrong, Slaves are people that are forced to work without choice. These people came here by choice, chose those jobs and at that pay. That is not slavery but Capitalism. Ask McDonald’s, Walmart and Target why their profits have risen but they pay their employees only the minimum hourly wage. Is that slavery?

They came because our laws ARE NOT ENFORCED

There is a legal way in. Your party is ESPECIALLY gifted at letting millions in and IGNORING OUR LAWS

Both sides of career caused this and refuse to fix it

 

[Luckyone]

They came because our laws ARE NOT ENFORCED

There is a legal way in. Your party is ESPECIALLY gifted at letting millions in and IGNORING OUR LAWS

Both sides of career caused this and refuse to fix it

Having said that, this is a problem that has been around for 30 years and is now a part of our lives (who to blame is meaningless). The problem needs to be solved (not make worse as Trump is doing). The whole OP is about Trump using a hack axe to do what he believes needs to be done but his incompetency is going hurt us all more than if he had done nothing.

What needs to happen is to have both sides work together with an intelligent plan.

 

[Paradoxical#1]

You must then not be poor or middle class. Only the rich can do that. A poor or middleclass person has to choose between food or paying rent, health insurance, school, etc. It is one or the other.

I grew up more poor than most blacks of today did. From a very large family, and my parents moved a lot because they couldn't pay rent. We got some charity from the nuns and it was mortifying. The problem of there being a lot of poor people is entirely left-wing created by importing the world's poverty. But, when people are very poor and can't afford food or health care there is welfare, snap, food stamps, and free health care at "county". IF we didn't import slave labor who take jobs citizens would do we wouldn't have so many poor people.

 

[eagle1462010]

Having said that, this is a problem that has been around for 30 years and is now a part of our lives (who to blame is meaningless). The problem needs to be solved (not make worse as Trump is doing). The whole OP is about Trump using a hack axe to do what he believes needs to be done but his incompetency is going hurt us all more than if he had done nothing.

What needs to happen is to have both sides work together with an intelligent plan.

Hasnt happened in 30 years.

Suddenly they fix it????

BS

 

[Luckyone]

I grew up more poor than most blacks of today did. From a very large family, and my parents moved a lot because they couldn't pay rent. We got some charity from the nuns and it was mortifying. The problem of there being a lot of poor people is entirely left-wing created by importing the world's poverty. But, when people are very poor and can't afford food or health care there is welfare, snap, food stamps, and free health care at "county". IF we didn't import slave labor who take jobs citizens would do we wouldn't have so many poor people.

You are imagining a fantasy world where humans do not act as humans. The kind of a world that has never existed and will never exist unless people are forced to work together to survive, which can only happen in a major catastrophe.

You think that the Republicans have the recipe for such a thing occurring? History has shown the exact opposite

What needs to happen is to be faithful to the Constitution and let the "of the people, by the people and for the people" be the guideline. Is that perfection? No, but it has worked the best in the world since time began.

The "my way or the highway" mentality of the Republicans is the exact opposite.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

I'm in farm country. I see one or two white guys operating machines in the fields.

 

[Paradoxical#1]

You are imagining a fantasy world where humans do not act as humans. The kind of a world that has never existed and will never exist unless people are forced to work together to survive, which can only happen in a major catastrophe.

You think that the Republicans have the recipe for such a thing occurring? History has shown the exact opposite

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What needs to happen is to be faithful to the Constitution and let the "of the people, by the people and for the people" be the guideline. Is that perfection? No, but it has worked the best in the world since time began.

The "my way or the highway" mentality of the Republicans is the exact opposite.

Straw man. Who says what you posted?

 

[Luckyone]

Straw man. Who says what you posted?

Common sense, of which you have none.

 

[Paradoxical#1]

Common sense, of which you have none.

So, you cannot point to anyone who said that. No surprise there.

 

[Luckyone]

So, you cannot point to anyone who said that. No surprise there.

Common sense is not something that you can point to as it is "COMMON" sense.

Common sense is like watching this picture and without "anyone who said that" being involved, determining who of the two is likely to be the most dangerous.

Seeing your response, you would probably say "I have no idea. Let me see who comments and then check their credentials to see if they are not biased".

 

[Paradoxical#1]

Common sense is not something that you can point to as it is "COMMON" sense.

Common sense is like watching this picture and without "anyone who said that" being involved, determining who of the two is likely to be the most dangerous.

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Seeing your response, you would probably say "I have no idea. Let me see who comments and then check their credentials to see if they are not biased".

When you acquire common sense, get back to me.

 

[Luckyone]

When you acquire common sense, get back to me.

You do not know what that is, so "getting back to you" is useless

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

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American farmers are heavily reliant on migrant workers. While not all farm labor is migrant, a significant portion is. Studies suggest that over 70% of the US agricultural workforce are immigrants, and a substantial portion of those are undocumented. This reliance is particularly pronounced in crop farming and dairy, where immigrant workers often fill labor-intensive roles.

Here's a more detailed look:

• High Dependence:
  Immigrant workers are essential for harvesting crops and working on dairy farms. Many farmers struggle to find enough native-born workers, leading to increased reliance on immigrants.
  
  
• Immigrant Share:
  A significant percentage of farm workers are foreign-born, including those who have naturalized and those who are undocumented.
  
  
• Impact on Food Supply:
  Reductions in the immigrant workforce could lead to higher food costs and potential shortages.
  
  
• Labor-Intensive Roles:
  Tasks like hand-picking crops, tending to livestock, and milking cows are often performed by immigrant workers.
  
  
• Economic Considerations:
  The agricultural sector is a major employer, and immigrant workers play a crucial role in its operation.

What Is Isn't What Has to Be

What was it like before this became an issue? In Of Mice and Men, the migrant workers were White, and they were paid enough to talk about having their own farm some day.

Also, there were many family farms. Maybe farms got too big for their britches.

Thug-hugging legislation may be part of the problem, as it is elsewhere. Convicts should pay their debt to society; they shouldn't cost the taxpayer anything. Bring back chain gangs.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

You are an asshole critic. You can find the information yourself, if that was truly what you really want. What you want is to discredit the messenger that brings negative information about Trump

Here, to shut your mouth. This information comes from the Center of Immigration Studies

A Profile of Undocumented Agricultural Workers in the United States​

Agricultural workers in the United States not only support the US economy, but are also responsible for keeping people across the country and the globe fed. The agricultural sector contributed $1.055 trillion to the US GDP in 2020, with $134.7 billion coming just from farms. [1] US agricultural exports were worth $139.6 billion in 2018. [2]

The agricultural sector in the United States relies on foreign workers; 86 percent of agricultural workers in the United States are foreign-born and 45 percent of all US agricultural workers are undocumented.

The Farmer's Doubter

Do other agricultural exporters rely on cheap foreign labor? Did America before this Peon Invasion?

Also, technology constantly produces more at less cost. So there should have been less need for migrant labor. The actual increase must really be a demand for higher profits.