How much do extremely wealthy people owe to the society that gave them the chance to prosper so much?

[progressive hunter]

Hmm, well different generations have different expectations and points of view. You can't expect everyone to see it your way. And, this is a forum. You can't expect everyone to act with the same decorum as you or I. I let it go. No need in trying to control the compulsions of others. It's a bore and in some ways it's intrusive.

I don't expect to change her. She came into the thread full of hostility and then started calling me childish and stupid. I just think she's a hypocrite for that. You disagree?

youre the only one showing hostility,,

 

[Slade3200]

Well shit happens when typing on my phone and i throw out many typos. if you’re not smart enough to work through that and understand what I’m saying then I don’t know why I’m wasting my time talking to you about economic issues.

Your illiteracy isn't my problem, son.

You’ve apparently made it your problem. Im srory yuo aer havnig a hrad tmie undrestnading me. I wlil tyr to do bteter.

 

[Anomalism]

youre the only one showing hostility,,

You have got to be kidding me. You don't think she's hostile? She admitted that she's hostile and condescending in one of her earlier posts.

 

[progressive hunter]

youre the only one showing hostility,,

You have got to be kidding me. You don't think she's hostile? She admitted that she's hostile and condescending in one of her earlier posts.

youre the one that started a thread with the intent to steal other peoples property,, shes just standing in defense of it,,, thats not hostile unless youre the one threatening to take what is hers,,

 

[Anomalism]

youre the one that started a thread with the intent to steal other peoples property,, shes just standing in defense of it,,, thats not hostile unless youre the one threatening to take what is hers,,

Ah, gotcha. That's a clever deflection and justification.

I just want to add that telling people they're stupid and that none of their opinions matter is a terrible way to teach. Y'all act like you're here trying to impart some great wisdom while you're flinging insults and trying to belittle me as much as possible. Maybe you should work on your approach if you want to teach me something. Maybe you grownups should be setting the standard for cordiality rather than me.

 

[TemplarKormac]

Hmm, well different generations have different expectations and points of view. You can't expect everyone to see it your way. And, this is a forum. You can't expect everyone to act with the same decorum as you or I. I let it go. No need in trying to control the compulsions of others. It's a bore and in some ways it's intrusive.

I don't expect to change her. She came into the thread full of hostility and then started calling me childish and stupid. I just think she's a hypocrite for that. You disagree?

I'm not in the business of actively judging people. However, I've corresponded with her on this forum for a few years now, she's not as bad as you think.

But I can see both sides.

I'm not saying you don't have nuanced views, but if you're going to step into the ring, expect the kid gloves to come off instantly.

 

[progressive hunter]

youre the one that started a thread with the intent to steal other peoples property,, shes just standing in defense of it,,, thats not hostile unless youre the one threatening to take what is hers,,

Ah, gotcha. That's a clever deflection and justification.

I just want to add that telling people they're stupid and that none of their opinions matter is a terrible way to teach. Y'all act like you're here trying to impart some great wisdom while you're flinging insults and trying to belittle me as much as possible. If you want to teach me something maybe you should work on your approach. Maybe you grownups should be setting the example rather than letting me set the standard for cordiality.

we've been trying to give you wisdom based on experience but you keep ignoring it and pushing your communist ideology,,,

like I said come back after a few yrs of providing for yourself and others and then we can have a productive discussion,,

 

[Anomalism]

I'm not in the business of actively judging people. However, I've corresponded with her on this forum for a few years now, she's not as bad as you think.

But I can see both sides.

I'm not saying you don't have nuanced views, but if you're going to step into the ring, expect the kid gloves to come off instantly.

I have no expectations. My feeling aren't hurt. I just think it's hypocritical to call somebody childish while simultaneously calling them and anybody else that disagrees with you stupid. She can act however she wants; it's no skin off my nose. I will respond by saying it like it is, though.

 

[TemplarKormac]

Well, are you interested in listening to their point of view and seeing anything from their perspective? Or are you merely interested in being the victim? I'm not trying to be antagonistic or anything, but this is one question I asked myself when I was about your age.

Feel free to reject my reasoning. But being objective is one of the stepping stones to gaining the respect of your "elders".

Did you read the whole thread? The poster in question came in guns blazing shooting insults left and right. She never gave anybody the chance to have a good or constructive conversation. From the start she was insulting and condescending. Do you think they're interested in seeing anything from my perspective, or do they assume I'm too stupid and childish to have anything worth saying? Have they even seen some of the other "adults" on this forum?

You expect too much if you come to the board expecting politeness and decorum. To gauge interest, you ask questions, not make direct assertions. Set your expectations low. Set no standards.

In short... gird thy loins.

 

[Anomalism]

we've been trying to give you wisdom based on experience but you keep ignoring it and pushing your communist ideology,,,

like I said come back after a few yrs of providing for yourself and others and then we can have a productive discussion,,

I didn't ignore you. You just didn't change my mind.

 

[Anomalism]

You expect too much if you come to the board expecting politeness and decorum.

I don't expect that at all. I'm just calling out hypocrisy when I see it.

 

[TemplarKormac]

I will respond by saying it like it is, though.

That is well within your rights to do so.

 

[progressive hunter]

we've been trying to give you wisdom based on experience but you keep ignoring it and pushing your communist ideology,,,

like I said come back after a few yrs of providing for yourself and others and then we can have a productive discussion,,

I didn't ignore you. You just didn't change my mind.

because you think your right and we are wrong,,,

like I said come back after a few yrs of providing for yourself and others and then we can have a productive discussion,,

 

[Anomalism]

That is well within your rights to do so.

That's really all it is. I don't take any of this personally.

 

[Anomalism]

because you think your right and we are wrong,,,

No, that's not true and I tried to explain that already. I think you have different values and a different perspective. At an intellectual level I don't think politics is about one side being correct and the other being incorrect. I think it's a disagreement about values and ethics, good and evil. Some of the people I learned from were extremely conservative and I respect their views a lot.

 

[progressive hunter]

because you think your right and we are wrong,,,

No, that's not true and I tried to explain that already. I think you have different values and a different perspective. At an intellectual level I don't think politics is about one side being right and the other being wrong. I think it's a disagreement about values and ethics, right and wrong, good and evil.

thats culture not politics,,, this is the USA not communist china or any of the other socialist countries,,,

if you were older and had yrs of experience of providing for yourself and others you would know that

 

[Anomalism]

thats culture not politics,,, this is the USA not communist china or any of the other socialist countries,,,

if you were older and had yrs of experience of providing for yourself and others you would know that

You seem to be under the impression that further dialogue between us is a waste of time. I agree.

 

[TemplarKormac]

That is well within your rights to do so.

That's really all it is. I don't take any of this personally.

That's a great approach. You'll need stone skin in here. Seems you are prepared.

 

[progressive hunter]

thats culture not politics,,, this is the USA not communist china or any of the other socialist countries,,,

if you were older and had yrs of experience of providing for yourself and others you would know that

You seem to be under the impression that further dialogue between us is a waste of time. I agree.

if you say so,,

 

[westwall]

He was abandoned as a child. That was one of the motivations that drove him.

He still didn't do everything without any help. He's also quite an outlier. Do you not think he could have done even better with more opportunities?

I agree he is indeed an outlier. Amazingly enough, it is those outliers who have, in general, had the greatest impact on the world. I think he did what he did in spite of what others did.