How much do extremely wealthy people owe to the society that gave them the chance to prosper so much?

[TemplarKormac]

Justify? Don't flatter yourself, Junior. Why would I feel the need to justify anything to you? Because your uber-woke "mentors" told you that the whole world wants your approval? Not.

I'm explaining my perspective, same as you. And you're dismissing it because you think you're smarter than everyone else, same as you accuse others of doing.

And I'll get right on worrying about maturity as defined by someone whose brain isn't even fully formed yet. I'm all kinds of anxious to be mature by YOUR standards, boychik.

Look how toxic and childish your posts are. It's clear that you're the one that thinks they're better and smarter than everybody else.

People who have lived longer and have had more life experience rightly have the expectation of knowing more than those who haven't.

Why, I remember when I was a wee little lad...

 

[Anomalism]

Actually, you've claimed it many times, but I can see you're well-schooled in the leftist-idiot technique of "If I don't use the specific words, then I didn't say it."

I can't control the way you perceive my words. It's in your head.

 

[Anomalism]

People who have lived longer and had more life experience rightly have the expectation of knowing more than those who haven't.

Why, I remember when I was a wee little lad...

It's hard to respect the wisdom of somebody that flames me like that and acts like I'm incapable of having nuanced views.

 

[Slade3200]

Haha, and you try and accuse me of bringing in the strawman. That’s rich

No, I didn't "try", I did. You attempting to tell me what my perspective is to bolster your failed argument is the epitome of a straw man. Tighten up, kid.

I didn’t attempt to tell you, I did tell you. The arguments you present are from a micro/individual perspective. That’s not my opinion it’s what you’ve done. I then presented my argument which addresses the health of our economy as a whole from a macro level. You’ve avoided responding to those points and instead bring in the strawman to hypocritically try and make the conversation about that. It was a fine attempt but you’re not fooling anybody

 

[Orangecat]

Does your lifestyle depend on society?

I'm certainly adult enough not to need other people's money to feed myself, educate myself, pay for my healthcare, or subsidize my other personal expenses. How about you? Adult enough to be paying your own way in life?

 

[Cecilie1200]

Very bright people figure out how to get what they need. Education included.

People also do better when they don't have to do everything themselves and/or the hard way. You make it sound like ideal situations have no impact on the end product. That's ridiculous. Saying "Smart people will figure it out." kind of misses the point entirely.

Well, I'm certain that's what it seems like from your perspective of never doing anything for yourself. I don't doubt that you've thought many long, deep thoughts on how much better you are than all those poor fools who didn't have rich parents to spoil them.

Reality shows us that pampered little princes and princesses tend to be useless creatures, while people who have to work for everything they have tend to both accomplish more and value it more. You'll recognize this once you grow up enough to have some actual skin the game with a job and a family, rather than simply daydreaming about theory.

In the meantime, here's another thing you should learn but won't because you think you know it all and invented most of it.

Rich & Powerful

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Nearly 68% of the world's richest people are 'self-made,' says new report

A new report from Wealth-X says only 8.5% of the world's ultra-high-net-worth population — individuals with $30 million or more in net worth — inherited their money.

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Why Inheritance Is Mostly Overrated As A Reason For Wealth

Most of the world’s richest people are self-made—and many rich heirs lose their money.

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You seem deeply invested in putting me down and believing you're better than me.

As I seem to say to you so often, don't flatter yourself, Punkin. You think this is "deep investment"? This is something I'm doing to kill time while I'm waiting for my printer and scanner to finish.

 

[Orangecat]

I didn’t attempt to tell you, I did tell you.

And thusly created a straw man. Tighten up, kid. You're not very good at this, tbh.

 

[Slade3200]

You really didn’t understand what I was saying because I left out the word “about”?? I guess that explains a lot

English is more legible when you use all the words, dummy.

Well shit happens when typing on my phone and i throw out many typos. if you’re not smart enough to work through that and understand what I’m saying then I don’t know why I’m wasting my time talking to you about economic issues.

 

[TemplarKormac]

Uh oh, he poked the bear.

Apparently I'm just a stupid kid that should sit down and listen to the omnipotence of my elders.

Well, are you interested in listening to their point of view and seeing anything from their perspective? Or are you merely interested in being the victim? I'm not trying to be antagonistic or anything, but this is one question I asked myself when I was about your age.

Feel free to reject my reasoning. But being objective is one of the stepping stones to gaining the respect of your "elders".

 

[Anomalism]

I'm certainly adult enough not to need other people's money to feed myself, educate myself, pay for my healthcare, or subsidize my other personal expenses. How about you? Adult enough to be paying your own way in life?

That's not what I asked you.

 

[Orangecat]

Well shit happens when typing on my phone and i throw out many typos. if you’re not smart enough to work through that and understand what I’m saying then I don’t know why I’m wasting my time talking to you about economic issues.

Your illiteracy isn't my problem, son.

 

[Anomalism]

Well, are you interested in listening to their point of view and seeing anything from their perspective? Or are you merely interested in being the victim? I'm not trying to be antagonistic or anything, but this is one question I asked myself when I was about your age.

Feel free to reject my reasoning. But being objective is one of the stepping stones to gaining the respect of your "elders".

Did you read the whole thread? The poster in question came in guns blazing shooting insults left and right. She never gave anybody the chance to have a good or constructive conversation. From the start she was insulting and condescending. Do you think they're interested in seeing anything from my perspective, or do they assume I'm too stupid and childish to have anything worth saying? Have they even seen some of the other "adults" on this forum?

 

[westwall]

And sometimes NOT having help causes a better outcome. Steve Jobs being an example.

You think Steve Jobs is a shining example of somebody that achieved without any help from others?

He was abandoned as a child. That was one of the motivations that drove him.

 

[Orangecat]

That's not what I asked you.

You've answered my question by dodging it. When you grow up and pay your own way, your perspective will change. I don't need to fight a battle that time will win for me.

 

[TemplarKormac]

People who have lived longer and had more life experience rightly have the expectation of knowing more than those who haven't.

Why, I remember when I was a wee little lad...

It's hard to respect the wisdom of somebody that flames me like that and acts like I'm incapable of having nuanced views.

Hmm, well different generations have different expectations and points of view. You can't expect everyone to see it your way. And, this is a forum. You can't expect everyone to act with the same decorum as you or I. I let it go. No need in trying to control the compulsions of others. It's a bore and in some ways it's intrusive.

 

[Anomalism]

He was abandoned as a child. That was one of the motivations that drove him.

He still didn't do everything without any help. He's also quite an outlier. Do you not think he could have done even better with more opportunities?

 

[Anomalism]

Hmm, well different generations have different expectations and points of view. You can't expect everyone to see it your way. And, this is a forum. You can't expect everyone to act with the same decorum as you or I. I let it go. No need in trying to control the compulsions of others. It's a bore and in some ways it's intrusive.

I don't expect to change her. She came into the thread full of hostility and then started calling me childish and stupid. I just think she's a hypocrite for that. You disagree?

 

[progressive hunter]

Yeah, that's why every other post is whining about how mean I am, and explaining how I can become the person you've decided I should be, as though I asked.

Write this down somewhere, Junior, so I don't have to keep repeating myself: I know exactly who and what I am, and I'm good with it. I don't care, and never will, about your approval or disapproval. I'm not your mommy, and this ain't your woke safe space. Adapt to this environment, and stop trying to demand it adapt to you.

You spend a lot of time picking other people apart. It's funny that you feel the need to tell me how much you don't care about my perception of you.

well you are still a child while shes an adult that has actually experienced the things you are talking about,,

 

[Slade3200]

I didn’t attempt to tell you, I did tell you.

And thusly created a straw man. Tighten up, kid. You're not very good at this, tbh.

That’s not a strawman, it’s a hole in your argument that I pointed out. I provided the counter argument. You’ve avoided addressing the counter argument to argue about a strawman. That’s literally what a strawman is. You’re a total hypocrite.

 

[progressive hunter]

Uh oh, he poked the bear.

Apparently I'm just a stupid kid that should sit down and listen to the omnipotence of my elders.

to a degree youre exactly right,,