How much do extremely wealthy people owe to the society that gave them the chance to prosper so much?

[progressive hunter]

at your age its more important to listen to others that have been there and done that,,,

I have plenty of mentors in my life. You're just somebody I'm disagreeing with online. I come here to sharpen my perspective through debate. You're the opposition, a stress test for my beliefs. I don't think I'm better or smarter than you. I just see things differently. It's actually other posters that have been posturing like that towards me.

you cant sharpen it if you dont listen to others when they prove how wrong you are,,

 

[Cecilie1200]

We do. You'll stop wondering when YOU understand them from the perspective of experience, rather than the perspective of "I've sat in my room and thought a whole bunch about this." It's very easy to say, "Evil is just subjective, it doesn't really exist" as a theoretical abstract; it's impossible once you encounter it.

I don't think evil doesn't exist just because it's subjective.

You don't know much about subjectivity OR evil. If evil were simply a matter of perspective, it wouldn't be evil. By definition, evil must be an absolute, or it doesn't exist at all.

 

[Orangecat]

I don't think so. I think the vast majority of people aren't born with the kind of discipline or perspective necessary to figure out and conquer life all on their own. Most people benefit a lot from the help they receive from others, even if they're incapable of seeing how much others have helped them.

I was referring to internet access, not genetic predisposition.

 

[Anomalism]

you cant sharpen it if you dont listen to others when they prove how wrong you are,,

You didn't change my mind; that doesn't mean I didn't gain anything.

 

[Anomalism]

By definition, evil must be an absolute, or it doesn't exist at all.

Whose definition is that?

 

[Cecilie1200]

Right back atcha, Junior. Difference remains that I actually have something real to congratulate myself about.

I'm not even in the same universe as you when it comes to arrogance and hostility.

Possibly because you're not talking about anything real, and I am. You're running your gums about theoretical abstracts in order to preen yourself on how "smart" you are; to me, your theoretical abstracts are MY paycheck, MY bills, MY family.

People who have worked for something and have something to lose tend to be extremely hostile when those things are threatened by snot-nosed children out to "change the world" based on their theories. We're funny that way.

 

[Slade3200]

Each person can choose to live at whatever standards they want. That’s not the point I was making. If you don’t get it then I’m sorry I don’t feel like explaining it to you

Your marxist views are obvious without explanation: From each, to each. You know, the thing.

I’m not a Marxist

Progs keep saying that as we keep moving "forward" to the left. We are about to waste a lot of resources and cost the common citizen a lot of his/her family or personal wealth for grandoise projects.

Such as? What would be an example of a protect we are about to waste money on?

 

[Orangecat]

Have you not benefited in any way from society and the people around you?

Did I claim to have no use for society? No.
There are degrees of liberty one gives up to live amongst others. I just believe in surrendering a lesser degree of liberty to alleviate the shortcomings of others than you do, obviously.

 

[Cecilie1200]

at your age its more important to listen to others that have been there and done that,,,

I have plenty of mentors in my life. You're just somebody I'm disagreeing with online. I come here to sharpen my perspective through debate. You're the opposition, a stress test for my beliefs. I don't think I'm better or smarter than you. I just see things differently. It's actually other posters that have been posturing like they're better and have more weighty opinions.

Add lack of self-awareness to the list of your childish flaws.

 

[Slade3200]

That’s because you’re only looking at the economy from a micro level and thinking yourself and the individual

You have to create a straw man and tell me what perspective is? You haven't a clue about how I'm looking at this issue..
And "thinking myself and the individual'? At least try to sound coherent in your BS.

You really didn’t understand what I was saying because I left out the word “about”?? I guess that explains a lot

 

[Anomalism]

Possibly because you're not talking about anything real, and I am. You're running your gums about theoretical abstracts in order to preen yourself on how "smart" you are; to me, your theoretical abstracts are MY paycheck, MY bills, MY family.

People who have worked for something and have something to lose tend to be extremely hostile when those things are threatened by snot-nosed children out to "change the world" based on their theories. We're funny that way.

You're just trying to justify being a jerk. Condescension and extreme hostility are signs of your own immaturity.

 

[Slade3200]

I’m not a Marxist

I didn't say you were. I said you espouse marxist views, like wealth redistribution, which are easily verifiable by reading your posts. Own it.

Haha, and you try and accuse me of bringing in the strawman. That’s rich

 

[Anomalism]

Add lack of self-awareness to the list of your childish flaws.

On this forum I act more like a grownup than you do.

 

[Cecilie1200]

By definition, evil must be an absolute, or it doesn't exist at all.

Whose definition is that?

That would be the English language. Actually, that would be just about every language, since they all contain that concept. What, did your vaunted tutors take any time to teach you the basic concept that words mean things?

Go look it up, Mr. I'm-So-Educated. I'm not going to do the work your tutors neglected, nor the homework they should have assigned you.

 

[Orangecat]

Haha, and you try and accuse me of bringing in the strawman. That’s rich

No, I didn't "try", I did. You attempting to tell me what my perspective is to bolster your failed argument is the epitome of a straw man. Tighten up, kid.

 

[Anomalism]

By definition, evil must be an absolute, or it doesn't exist at all.

Whose definition is that?

That would be the English language. Actually, that would be just about every language, since they all contain that concept. What, did your vaunted tutors take any time to teach you the basic concept that words mean things?

Go look it up, Mr. I'm-So-Educated. I'm not going to do the work your tutors neglected, nor the homework they should have assigned you.

Definition of EVIL

morally reprehensible : sinful, wicked; arising from actual or imputed bad character or conduct; inferior… See the full definition

www.merriam-webster.com

It doesn't say anything about evil having to be absolute.

 

[Orangecat]

You really didn’t understand what I was saying because I left out the word “about”?? I guess that explains a lot

English is more legible when you use all the words, dummy.

 

[Cecilie1200]

Possibly because you're not talking about anything real, and I am. You're running your gums about theoretical abstracts in order to preen yourself on how "smart" you are; to me, your theoretical abstracts are MY paycheck, MY bills, MY family.

People who have worked for something and have something to lose tend to be extremely hostile when those things are threatened by snot-nosed children out to "change the world" based on their theories. We're funny that way.

You're just trying to justify being a jerk. Condescension and extreme hostility are signs of your own immaturity.

Justify? Don't flatter yourself, Junior. Why would I feel the need to justify anything to you? Because your uber-woke "mentors" told you that the whole world wants your approval? Not.

I'm explaining my perspective, same as you. And you're dismissing it because you think you're smarter than everyone else, same as you accuse others of doing.

And I'll get right on worrying about maturity as defined by someone whose brain isn't even fully formed yet. I'm all kinds of anxious to be mature by YOUR standards, boychik.

 

[Papageorgio]

"Very bright" is an opinion. Depending on the environment, the situation and timing, "very bright" people could be considered dumb and people that you may consider dumb, could be "very bright".

You aren't dealing in facts, you are dealing with opinions and perception, which are very fluid.

Reality is subjective. This seems like a pointless observation in this context,

Your pointless observation noted.

 

[Anomalism]

Justify? Don't flatter yourself, Junior. Why would I feel the need to justify anything to you? Because your uber-woke "mentors" told you that the whole world wants your approval? Not.

I'm explaining my perspective, same as you. And you're dismissing it because you think you're smarter than everyone else, same as you accuse others of doing.

And I'll get right on worrying about maturity as defined by someone whose brain isn't even fully formed yet. I'm all kinds of anxious to be mature by YOUR standards, boychik.

Look how toxic and childish your posts are. It's clear that you're the one that thinks they're better and smarter than everybody else.