How many of you favoring EVs understand the cost in this massive migration?

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Simple facts folks
FACT a EV car uses .346 kilowatts per hour(kWh) to go 1 mile... 100 miles takes 34.6 kWh... and that means the battery has to be recharged. Average Electric Car kWh Per Mile [Results From 231 EVs]
Altogether, American drivers traveled 2.9 trillion miles on rural and urban roadways in 2020,
So if all the drivers that drove the 2.9 trillion miles used .346 kWh total kWh required: 1,107,200,000,000 kWh.
Well ok the USA uses 4,165,030,000,000 kWH Total electricity generated in USA in 2021
So that's 26% of the current total electricity generated by 11,070 total electric plants in the USA. Frequently Asked Questions (FAQs) - U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA)
This would mean black outs folks... unless there are 2,943 new power plants come on line.

Now for EV TRUCKS
Today Trucks Approximately 3.2 trillion miles are driven in the United States each year.
Based on 3.2 trillion miles and the average EV truck uses 4.3 kWh/ mile kWh per truck...https://www.osti.gov/pages/servlets/purl/1342660
So if all the above miles were driven by EV trucks that would be more than 744,186,046,512 kWh additional power required.
Unless another 1,977 power stations are built.
So what's the cost to build a power station and how long?
1 gas power station costs an average of $5,318,957 Power Plant Construction: How Much Does It Cost? | ProEst

So added to every one of EV car/truck users is the cost of building 4,920 power plants to provide 14,867,200,000,000 kWh needed or
356% more electricity than is generated today.
 
Simple facts folks
FACT a EV car uses .346 kilowatts per hour(kWh) to go 1 mile... 100 miles takes 34.6 kWh... and that means the battery has to be recharged. Average Electric Car kWh Per Mile [Results From 231 EVs]
Altogether, American drivers traveled 2.9 trillion miles on rural and urban roadways in 2020,
So if all the drivers that drove the 2.9 trillion miles used .346 kWh total kWh required: 1,107,200,000,000 kWh.
Well ok the USA uses 4,165,030,000,000 kWH Total electricity generated in USA in 2021
So that's 26% of the current total electricity generated by 11,070 total electric plants in the USA. Frequently Asked Questions (FAQs) - U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA)
This would mean black outs folks... unless there are 2,943 new power plants come on line.

Now for EV TRUCKS
Today Trucks Approximately 3.2 trillion miles are driven in the United States each year.
Based on 3.2 trillion miles and the average EV truck uses 4.3 kWh/ mile kWh per truck...https://www.osti.gov/pages/servlets/purl/1342660
So if all the above miles were driven by EV trucks that would be more than 744,186,046,512 kWh additional power required.
Unless another 1,977 power stations are built.
So what's the cost to build a power station and how long?
1 gas power station costs an average of $5,318,957 Power Plant Construction: How Much Does It Cost? | ProEst

So added to every one of EV car/truck users is the cost of building 4,920 power plants to provide 14,867,200,000,000 kWh needed or
356% more electricity than is generated today.
There were complaints when we made the transition from horses to cars too. Just think of all the unemployed buggy whip makers, and farriers.
 
If we stopped because of the cost we would have never made it to the Moon.

What is the economic benefit of the change to EV's?

1. Oil doesn't need to be imported.
 
Simple facts folks
FACT a EV car uses .346 kilowatts per hour(kWh) to go 1 mile... 100 miles takes 34.6 kWh... and that means the battery has to be recharged. Average Electric Car kWh Per Mile [Results From 231 EVs]
Altogether, American drivers traveled 2.9 trillion miles on rural and urban roadways in 2020,
So if all the drivers that drove the 2.9 trillion miles used .346 kWh total kWh required: 1,107,200,000,000 kWh.
Well ok the USA uses 4,165,030,000,000 kWH Total electricity generated in USA in 2021
So that's 26% of the current total electricity generated by 11,070 total electric plants in the USA. Frequently Asked Questions (FAQs) - U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA)
This would mean black outs folks... unless there are 2,943 new power plants come on line.

Now for EV TRUCKS
Today Trucks Approximately 3.2 trillion miles are driven in the United States each year.
Based on 3.2 trillion miles and the average EV truck uses 4.3 kWh/ mile kWh per truck...https://www.osti.gov/pages/servlets/purl/1342660
So if all the above miles were driven by EV trucks that would be more than 744,186,046,512 kWh additional power required.
Unless another 1,977 power stations are built.
So what's the cost to build a power station and how long?
1 gas power station costs an average of $5,318,957 Power Plant Construction: How Much Does It Cost? | ProEst

So added to every one of EV car/truck users is the cost of building 4,920 power plants to provide 14,867,200,000,000 kWh needed or
356% more electricity than is generated today.
Last week you were swearing we would need 1191 new Nuke plants. Now its 1,977?

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What changed in a week?
 
Last week you were swearing we would need 1191 new Nuke plants. Now its 1,977?

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What changed in a week?
The GDP.... oh jeez... are you so weak in experiences to know the world is not CONSTANT! It changes just as the numbers can
change but the principle is the same. Idiots support EVs don't seem to look at ALL the costs that will be involved.
For example you idiots want to do as Biden guaranteed to rid fossil fuels. But what will you idiots do when oil prices are so high
that tires that use 300 million barrels of oil a year to make 2.5 billion tires, raise prices tires by 50% or more!
Or when your taxes increase simply because asphalt which uses 1.3 billion barrels of oil a year go sky high!
 
There were complaints when we made the transition from horses to cars too. Just think of all the unemployed buggy whip makers, and farriers.
Was the Government pushing it or did the Market push it? Big difference.
 
Was the Government pushing it or did the Market push it? Big difference.
The government pushed it big tme. Somebody had to build all those new hard top roads that cars needed. Horse people hated them. A horse couldn't get good footing .
 
The government pushed it big tme. Somebody had to build all those new hard top roads that cars needed. Horse people hated them. A horse couldn't get good footing .
Bullshit. To this day, there are horse people and their horses are using the roads and no complaints.
 
The GDP.... oh jeez... are you so weak in experiences to know the world is not CONSTANT! It changes just as the numbers can
change but the principle is the same. Idiots support EVs don't seem to look at ALL the costs that will be involved.
For example you idiots want to do as Biden guaranteed to rid fossil fuels. But what will you idiots do when oil prices are so high
that tires that use 300 million barrels of oil a year to make 2.5 billion tires, raise prices tires by 50% or more!
Or when your taxes increase simply because asphalt which uses 1.3 billion barrels of oil a year go sky high!
So between Wednesday of last week and Monday--5 days, you forecast that we now need 800 more power plants?

You said it was 1,191 on Wednesday
You now say it is 1,977 on Monday.

Am I mis-reading this? A simple yes or no please.
 
Simple facts folks
FACT a EV car uses .346 kilowatts per hour(kWh) to go 1 mile... 100 miles takes 34.6 kWh... and that means the battery has to be recharged. Average Electric Car kWh Per Mile [Results From 231 EVs]
Altogether, American drivers traveled 2.9 trillion miles on rural and urban roadways in 2020,
So if all the drivers that drove the 2.9 trillion miles used .346 kWh total kWh required: 1,107,200,000,000 kWh.
Well ok the USA uses 4,165,030,000,000 kWH Total electricity generated in USA in 2021
So that's 26% of the current total electricity generated by 11,070 total electric plants in the USA. Frequently Asked Questions (FAQs) - U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA)
This would mean black outs folks... unless there are 2,943 new power plants come on line.

Now for EV TRUCKS
Today Trucks Approximately 3.2 trillion miles are driven in the United States each year.
Based on 3.2 trillion miles and the average EV truck uses 4.3 kWh/ mile kWh per truck...https://www.osti.gov/pages/servlets/purl/1342660
So if all the above miles were driven by EV trucks that would be more than 744,186,046,512 kWh additional power required.
Unless another 1,977 power stations are built.
So what's the cost to build a power station and how long?
1 gas power station costs an average of $5,318,957 Power Plant Construction: How Much Does It Cost? | ProEst

So added to every one of EV car/truck users is the cost of building 4,920 power plants to provide 14,867,200,000,000 kWh needed or
356% more electricity than is generated today.
This effort to go all EV is crazy. It is a good example of how the market and government fails the people. EVs aren’t green. They are the opposite of green. They aren’t affordable either for the vast majority of Americans. Plus they are ineffective due to limited range.
 
Simple facts folks
FACT a EV car uses .346 kilowatts per hour(kWh) to go 1 mile... 100 miles takes 34.6 kWh... and that means the battery has to be recharged. Average Electric Car kWh Per Mile [Results From 231 EVs]
Altogether, American drivers traveled 2.9 trillion miles on rural and urban roadways in 2020,
So if all the drivers that drove the 2.9 trillion miles used .346 kWh total kWh required: 1,107,200,000,000 kWh.
Well ok the USA uses 4,165,030,000,000 kWH Total electricity generated in USA in 2021
So that's 26% of the current total electricity generated by 11,070 total electric plants in the USA. Frequently Asked Questions (FAQs) - U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA)
This would mean black outs folks... unless there are 2,943 new power plants come on line.

Now for EV TRUCKS
Today Trucks Approximately 3.2 trillion miles are driven in the United States each year.
Based on 3.2 trillion miles and the average EV truck uses 4.3 kWh/ mile kWh per truck...https://www.osti.gov/pages/servlets/purl/1342660
So if all the above miles were driven by EV trucks that would be more than 744,186,046,512 kWh additional power required.
Unless another 1,977 power stations are built.
So what's the cost to build a power station and how long?
1 gas power station costs an average of $5,318,957 Power Plant Construction: How Much Does It Cost? | ProEst

So added to every one of EV car/truck users is the cost of building 4,920 power plants to provide 14,867,200,000,000 kWh needed or
356% more electricity than is generated today.

YES, WE ARE AWARE OF THE COSTS. IT'S STILL CHEAPER THAN THE WILDFIRES, FLOODS, AND CATASTROPHIC WEATHER EVENTS EVERY YEAR. 50 BILLION LAST YEAR ALONE.
 
YES, WE ARE AWARE OF THE COSTS. IT'S STILL CHEAPER THAN THE WILDFIRES, FLOODS, AND CATASTROPHIC WEATHER EVENTS EVERY YEAR. 50 BILLION LAST YEAR ALONE.
A Canadian selling that heap of shit to the working American with a mandate to his head to buy a car that is 25 percent more vs. a fossil fuel car is hysterical.
 
YES, WE ARE AWARE OF THE COSTS. IT'S STILL CHEAPER THAN THE WILDFIRES, FLOODS, AND CATASTROPHIC WEATHER EVENTS EVERY YEAR. 50 BILLION LAST YEAR ALONE.
You do know that those events have been going on longer than the human race has been on the planet ?
 
You do know that those events have been going on longer than the human race has been on the planet ?
Thunder, please give us a comprehensive list of everything the Leftists and socialists expect big government to give them. Be thorough.

I'll start

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Abortions
Elementary education
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