How long will hardcore MAGAs stomach Trump's Forever War in the Middle East?

[HikerGuy83]

I have documented why Trump is a failure, and why most Americans disapprove of him.

There is no common standard for failure in this instance.

You think he's a failure, so he's a failure.

Nobody has to agree with you.

And many Americans, thanks to the partisanship of people like you and Maxine Waters, would disapprove of Trump if we walked on water to Europe.

 

[HikerGuy83]

At least 40,000 American were shoot in 2025 (mostly by other Americans). Plus significant number of killed by cars, knifes, poisoned by drugs and so on...
Does it really means that Russia and China should invade the USA? I very doubt that you would like it, at least because Russian-Chines invasion will cause much more deaths than Americans do by themselves.

You can spare me the apples to F-18's comparisons.

Nobody gets up in the morning intending to kill someone with their car (or shall we say 99.99% don't).

I don't think that guy was hanged by accident.

No more of the deflection.

We are degenerate society.

You never were generate.

You are barbarians.

 

[Mac-7]

C'mon, as anywhere else, everyone up to first lieutenant work by themselves, Captains can organise work, Majors can write a report, Lt. Colonens can find the place where to sign this report, Colonel should be able to sign where they put a mark for him, and General should be where they delivered him.

Any person has as much power over other person, as it allows it. And if a man follow an order of other man, it mostly because it's his own choice. Those who give orders should never give an order that won't be followed.

Anyone in command of anything in Iran is a jihadi

 

[schmidlap]

Who criticizes Trump for attacking Iran? Leftists who hate Trump no matter what he does but love democrats no matter what they do. That is why we should not value much of what leftists complain about. Was attacking Iran universally rejected by Americans? I don't think so.

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Hillary Clinton: Obliterate Iran if I Were President, April 2008 [Courtesy Fox News]

The Trump cult is alienated from and relentlessly negative toward most Americans - Democrats, Independents, and non-cult Republicans.

Trump's initiating his surprise attack Middle East war drove away some of his most fanatical media cheerleaders - Tucker Carlson, Joe Rogan, Candace Owens, Alex Jones, Marjorie Taylor Greene, etc - all die hard conservatives. It was seen as a betrayal.

The fact is that the Islamofascist regime remains in power, and in possession of its nuclear materials stockpile, after Trump has spent over $75 billion of taxpayer money, has driven the price of a gallon of gasoline up, and up, and up, wreaking havoc with the global economy,

Trump's cult lashes out rather than honestly confront the irrefutable reality.

 

[schmidlap]

The war resolves long before NOV. The economy takes off the DOW hits record highs and democrats look like the failures we all know they are. Redistricting is also a big loss for democrats. It doesnt look good for them

Pleasure yourself : Also imagine that Trump makes the taxpayer build him a big, glitzy ballroom, a gigantic triumphal monstrosity with a big, big bird on top, tags public memorials with his name in huge letters, and erects gold-plated statues aplenty.

 

[MarathonMike]

There is no credible evidence that Iran had reactivated its nuclear weapon development program.

This statement reflects either complete ignorance or shilling for the Iranian Regime. The fact that they created over 1000 pounds of highly enriched uranium is proof of their nuclear weapons ambitions. In the future, learn your subject before you embark on another pompous lecture mocking Trump supporters who know more than you do.

 

[schmidlap]

This statement reflects either complete ignorance or shilling for the Iranian Regime. The fact that they created over 1000 pounds of highly enriched uranium is proof of their nuclear weapons ambitions. In the future, learn your subject before you embark on another pompous lecture mocking Trump supporters who know more than you do.

So, you can cite no credible intelligence agency that determined that Iran had revived its nuclear weapons program.

I'm still surprised that Trump is allowing it to keep its

• 60% enriched uranium: 182 kg (close to weapons-grade, no practical civilian use)
• 20% enriched uranium: 840 kg (suitable for reactor fuel, but can be further enriched)
• 5% enriched uranium: 2,595 kg (low-enriched uranium for reactor fuel)

 

[MarathonMike]

I'm still surprised that Trump is allowing it to keep its

What do you suggest that Trump do to extract the 1000 pounds of HEU stored several hundred feet below ground ? Quit making a fool of yourself.

 

[Zavulon]

This statement reflects either complete ignorance or shilling for the Iranian Regime. The fact that they created over 1000 pounds of highly enriched uranium is proof of their nuclear weapons ambitions.

And what about Brazil, that has much more significant amounts of more enriched Uranium?

In the future, learn your subject before you embark on another pompous lecture mocking Trump supporters who know more than you do.

Ok. What do you know about Brazilian nuclear program?

 

[Zavulon]

So, you can cite no credible intelligence agency that determined that Iran had revived its nuclear weapons program.

I'm still surprised that Trump is allowing it to keep its

• 60% enriched uranium: 182 kg (close to weapons-grade, no practical civilian use)

Really? And how enriched is uranium for US Navy reactor fuel? And guesses?

 

[jacksonlamb]

And what about Brazil, that has much more significant amounts of more enriched Uranium?


Ok. What do you know about Brazilian nuclear program?

Much more than you.

 

[schmidlap]

What do you suggest that Trump do to extract the 1000 pounds of HEU stored several hundred feet below ground ? Quit making a fool of yourself.

Obviously, Trump should have sought expert advice before he ordered his Pearl Harbor attack. It's not as if it weren't foreseen.

But then, military intelligence was well aware of how Iran would use its control of the Strait of Hormuz, and Trump was not prepared for it.

Why seizing Iran's nuclear stockpile would be "one of the riskiest" missions in history

Seizing the highly enriched uranium would be more difficult and complex than anything U.S. Special Operations forces have ever attempted, military experts told CBS News.

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... Secretary of State Marco Rubio does not typically offer operational intelligence assessments during congressional briefings. So when he declared, simply, that regarding Iran’s enriched uranium stockpile “people are going to have to go and get it,” those eight words deserved far more attention than they received. They contained a mission brief in miniature.​

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The destruction of Iran’s nuclear facilities from the air will not eliminate the strategic problem of its enriched uranium stockpile. If that material survives the bombing campaign, a small US special operations force will almost certainly be tasked with locating and securing it on the ground. ​

 

[toobfreak]

Yep. And if you don't understand something you usually prefer either to stay away from it, or kill it. That's why America is losing allies.

We are losing no one. Anyone we are losing was never an ally but a fair weather friend who only knew us when they needed us and GOT SOMETHING for their need. We are tired of people using us and all these great allies will soon miss us and regret it. We are quickly finding out who our real friends are.

And look at that--- finally, both France and the UK are both sending warships to the Persian Gulf now finally forced to do something to get involved in protecting their oil interests. Russia? Nowhere to be found as usual.

We have The Reputation,

Yes, Russia has a reputation just as the USSR, that of being a blight upon the world, its own people and the region. The russian people are a poor, backward people suffering under soviet oppression and control, whose only survival depends on trying to attack and take back former Soviet satellites like Ukraine and /everyone/ opposes and condemns you for attacking Ukraine instead of simply working out a peaceful coexistence.

No country on this planet has a worse reputation and history than Russia except maybe Iran and N. Korea, so it is funny getting lectured on reputation by a Russian. You might not like America, but it is because you envy us, we use our power mostly for the betterment of others and world peace, and sometimes that involves taking out bad actors like Iran and doing things to protect our own position and interests so we can continue to support human rights and democracy around the planet.

Oh, BTW, we know how you cowards are trying to support Iran now through the back-channels using the Caspian Sea. The USA will soon stop that, and Russia will pay a price.

 

[markef]

Democrats were fully on board with Hillary when she said she would bomb Iran to ashes.

The Trump cult is alienated from and relentlessly negative toward most Americans - Democrats, Independents, and non-cult Republicans.

Trump's initiating his surprise attack Middle East war drove away some of his most fanatical media cheerleaders - Tucker Carlson, Joe Rogan, Candace Owens, Alex Jones, Marjorie Taylor Greene, etc - all die hard conservatives. It was seen as a betrayal.

The fact is that the Islamofascist regime remains in power, and in possession of its nuclear materials stockpile, after Trump has spent over $75 billion of taxpayer money, has driven the price of a gallon of gasoline up, and up, and up, wreaking havoc with the global economy,

Trump's cult lashes out rather than honestly confront the irrefutable reality.

 

[Zavulon]

We are losing no one. Anyone we are losing was never an ally but a fair weather friend who only knew us when they needed us and GOT SOMETHING for their need. We are tired of people using us and all these great allies will soon miss us and regret it. We are quickly finding out who our real friends are.

And look at that--- finally, both France and the UK are both sending warships to the Persian Gulf now finally forced to do something to get involved in protecting their oil interests. Russia? Nowhere to be found as usual.


Yes, Russia has a reputation just as the USSR, that of being a blight upon the world, its own people and the region. The russian people are a poor, backward people suffering under soviet oppression and control, whose only survival depends on trying to attack and take back former Soviet satellites like Ukraine and /everyone/ opposes and condemns you for attacking Ukraine instead of simply working out a peaceful coexistence.

No country on this planet has a worse reputation and history than Russia except maybe Iran and N. Korea, so it is funny getting lectured on reputation by a Russian. You might not like America, but it is because you envy us, we use our power mostly for the betterment of others and world peace, and sometimes that involves taking out bad actors like Iran and doing things to protect our own position and interests so we can continue to support human rights and democracy around the planet.

You are hysterical, therefore you are wrong.

Oh, BTW, we know how you cowards are trying to support Iran now through the back-channels using the Caspian Sea. The USA will soon stop that, and Russia will pay a price.

Hey, I wrote about it long ago. By the way, here in Russia we have a fictional (but based on the true stories) archetypical folklore hero, Li Xi-Qing, AKA Lisitsyn. A heroical figher-pilot Ivan, who fight against evil Americans in skies over Taiwan strait, Korea, Vietnam, etc... There is a nice song, "Phantom", known for everyone and there are a lot of covers.
For example, in English:




The fresh one, by Tina Klofellin, in the last verse mentioned the Mountains of Southern Iran, in which US plane as "a bunch of junk" was left.



So yes, may be soon your pilots will face Su-57s on the regular basis, not as in "Top Gun:Maverick" movie, in a single mission.

 

[Zavulon]

Much more than you.

Really? Enlight me, plz. Tell me something I don't know.

 

[schmidlap]

Democrats were fully on board with Hillary when she said she would bomb Iran to ashes.

I don't know how you determine when a political party is "fully on board," but Iran did not launch "a nuclear attack on Israel," and has never had nuclear weapons.

During the 2008 Democratic primary, then‑Senator Hillary Clinton warned that the United States would use overwhelming force if Iran launched a nuclear attack on Israel, saying “if I’m the president, we will attack Iran” and that Iran could be “totally obliterate[d]” in response to such an attack ​

How is that supposed to relate to Trump allowing Iran to keep its nuclear materials stockpile?

 

[Rawley]

At least 40,000 American were shoot in 2025

2/3 were suicides

 

[Zavulon]

2/3 were suicides

It's still Americans killing Americans. And, looks like working for the incompetent imbeciles from CIA, in attempt to overwhelm the legal government, is a form of suicide, too.

 

[toobfreak]

You are hysterical, therefore you are wrong.

Just bring it on, Fat Boy, the USA will have you in stitches fast.

So yes, may be soon your pilots will face Su-57s on the regular basis,

Can't wait to start shooting them down. Your whole fleet of 20 of them! So few and so valuable that Russia is afraid to fly them deep into Ukraine for fear of losing one.

Bring it on, let's shoot down at least ten of them. Russia is nothing without a ton of old nukes. We own you. Even China is surpassing Russia now. And very soon, we will be cutting off your Caspian Sea resupply route to Iran.

Iran be going down hard. Save yourself, Russia, give up Iran--- maybe if President Trump lets you suck his ass, Putin can make a deal with the USA. But your window of opportunity is closing fast.