How far is the US from Fascism ?


It took Hitler less than 6 months to tighten his grip on power. As I watched this programme I was struck by the similarities between Germany and the US. Hitler and Trump.

Hitler waged war on German institutions. Its government, its press and of course its court system. When he had finished there was nothing left.He burned fown the Reichstag. Trump lanched an invasion of Congress.

Hitler told Germans that he was the only answer to the problems of the state. Trump is doing that right now.

Hitlers followers had a violent core of street thugs who beat and murdered anybody that Hitler didnt like, They were paramilitary and wore their own uniforms. A bit like the proud boys and oath keepers. Violent thugs.

The threats of violence to prosecutors, judges and juries is something that they both share.

Hitler took his revenge on those who opposed him. Check out the story of Hans Litten. He was murdered in a camp for the crime of humiliating Hitler in court.

Of course Trump is threatening revenge on everyone who gets in his way.

Hitler and his group despised democracy. So do Trump and his chums. They just want power and too many "wrong" people vote. Election denying is pure fascism when it does not present any evidence. Its not just that trump is a narcissist. He is a deeply evil man.Like Hitler.

Hitler hated minorities. So does trump and trumpism. The nazis told women to get back in the home. So do trumpists. The nazis murdered gay folk. Trump vilifies them and works to remove them from society.

The nazis burned books, so does trumpism. Intellectuals were murdered by nazis. Check out trumpism and climate change.

This is not controversial. The biggest eye opener was the way that German society backed down at every opportunity. They thought that they were being clever. But Hitler just took the concession and moved on to the next level.

Those GOP politicians who have facilitated the rise of trump, looked the other way and swallowed their pride will have blood on their hands.

Trumpism isnt new. There is a long history of fascism in the US. If trump is elected then a noisy minority may see all their dreams come true.
Seriously? I think you have lost it, I live here and it was much closer to fascism when Biden was having social media ban speech, when the Biden administration tried their political opponents. People lost their jobs by not conforming to the agenda of Biden, the difference between then and now is you liked when Biden AP was a dictator but now you don’t like Trump, that’s it. It is old and silly.
 
Agreed. But you're still sticking with "It's different when we do it!" ?
I wasn't aware Biden played anywhere near all the stupid games trump plays. I know politicians don't always tell the truth but in the past we could trust most of what they said , with trump it's mostly BS. Biden was an asset. Trump is not , unfortunately he's still in the picture. I don't address past issues , just the current problems.
 
At least Joe's policies were based on common sense and not personal hatreds like trump's decisions WERE and still ARE unfortunately for ALL of US.
Yeah... that's too bad... unfortunately for Dems, their Border and Immigration and LGBTQ stance drove Mainstream America away.
 
Seriously? I think you have lost it, I live here and it was much closer to fascism when Biden was having social media ban speech, when the Biden administration tried their political opponents. People lost their jobs by not conforming to the agenda of Biden, the difference between then and now is you liked when Biden AP was a dictator but now you don’t like Trump, that’s it. It is old and silly.
Who lived in fear when Biden was president ? Who worried about irresponsible actions that endanger Medicate for our seniors , etc. etc. Fascism has threats and uses the element of fear and manipulated the people hatreds. Who does that - trump of course. So many more indicators , abuse of power , condemnation of the courts , abusing the military , it's endless.
 
Who lived in fear when Biden was president ? Who worried about irresponsible actions that endanger Medicate for our seniors , etc. etc. Fascism has threats and uses the element of fear and manipulated the people hatreds. Who does that - trump of course. So many more indicators , abuse of power , condemnation of the courts , abusing the military , it's endless.
I knew people that the Biden Administration forced social media to block, they were silenced by government efforts. Millions of people had their jobs threatened. Biden went after his political enemies .

I don’t live in fear now.
 
I knew people that the Biden Administration forced social media to block, they were silenced by government efforts. Millions of people had their jobs threatened. Biden went after his political enemies .

I don’t live in fear now.
Going after political enemies , you have to be talking about trump.
 
The charges in NY were bogus and were strictly political as most people figured out easily.
LOL , everything against your criminal is bogus according to you guys. Wake up already !!! It's not just one instance , we are talking about a lifetime of criminality when we are talking about trump. And as one great president said , " The buck stops here. " Before he destroys the country he has to be stopped , it's as simple as that.
 
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LOL , everything against your criminal is bogus according to you guys. Wake up already !!! It's not just one instance , we are talking about a lifetime of criminality when we are talking about trump. And as one great president said , " The buck stops here. " Before he destroys the country he has to be stopped , it's as simple as that.
Not my guy, I also think the current situation with the judge in NY that the DOJ is investigating is also bogus, it is against the law but it is a law rarely used but this is how stupid Republicans and Democrats have become.
 
Not my guy, I also think the current situation with the judge in NY that the DOJ is investigating is also bogus, it is against the law but it is a law rarely used but this is how stupid Republicans and Democrats have become.
As we all know the law can be bent. trump still being a free man out of prison is the ultimate proof of that. As far as using the law for political motives , trump is the only one who talked about vengeance and retaliation using the courts. But he is limited you have to have at least some evidence in order to prosecute people , he only has his hatred towards others.
 
As we all know the law can be bent. trump still being a free man out of prison is the ultimate proof of that. As far as using the law for political motives , trump is the only one who talked about vengeance and retaliation using the courts. But he is limited you have to have at least some evidence in order to prosecute people , he only has his hatred towards others.
Biden did it, that is pretty obvious but I think Trump is just as bad as Biden in most everything. Biden just lies better about his intentions.
 
Biden did it, that is pretty obvious but I think Trump is just as bad as Biden in most everything. Biden just lies better about his intentions.
The only thing that is obvious is trump was investigated because of his wrongdoings , Biden may have been president at the time but he was no part of trump's prosecution. That is the jurisdiction of the legal departments. trump , on the other hand , has had many people investigated without a shred of evidence. Ironically trump accused Biden of weaponiziing the justice department something he did himself. It's another carnie trick. At least one thing trump is good at.
 
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Not my guy, I also think the current situation with the judge in NY that the DOJ is investigating is also bogus, it is against the law but it is a law rarely used but this is how stupid Republicans and Democrats have become.
Thanks , I felt like I was talking to a trumper. People who see nothing wrong with trump or his tactics. By the way , Biden is not my guy either. He's just way better than the alternative. I am an Independent. I'm hoping Klobaucher will run in 2028. She's about perfect in my book. Maybe sooner than 2028 the way things are going we might have to have a special election.
 
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Thanks , I felt like I was talking to a trumper. People who see nothing wrong with trump or his tactics. By the way , Biden is not my guy either. He's just way better than the alternative. I am an Independent. I'm hoping Klobaucher will run in 2028. She's about perfect in my book. Maybe sooner than 2028 the way things are going we might have to have a special election.
I don’t like either party, they are both corrupt to the core and if you aren’t rich…neither party won’t waste their time with you, unless they can get votes from you.
 
A frigin Felon is about to insert us into a ME war. I feel like I did when GW Bush was whining about WMDs in Iraq. That turned out to be a disaster. We spent trillions and now Iraq is an Iran ally.
 
I don’t like either party, they are both corrupt to the core and if you aren’t rich…neither party won’t waste their time with you, unless they can get votes from you.
In the end you have to choose somebody , I prefer someone who isn't a crazy newbie or a lifelong fixture in Washington, D.C. I strongly believe in term limits. No one should have that much power for very long because the temptation for corruption is there and probably only gets worse with time. As I was saying Klobaucher is the sensible younger person I could easily support. I hope she runs again. No one on the republican side appeals to me. Seems like they've all lost their minds over trump.
 
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