How far is the US from Fascism ?

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

I didn't vote for the dementia patient.

You know you vote for Don Dementiac.

 

[DonGlock26]

You know you vote for Don Dementiac.

Trump got a second term and Biden got sent to the group home.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Trump got a second term and Biden got sent to the group home.

You voted for the dementiac wrecking our economy.

 

[Concerned American]

You are gaslighting.

You just broke the irony meter. Gaslighting is your middle name donkey.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

You just broke the irony meter. Gaslighting is your middle name donkey.

Says the gaslighter.

You are such a lightweight.

 

[Concerned American]

Says the gaslighter.

You are such a lightweight.

Sure troll, project all you want. You're not fooling anyone.

 

[Clipper]

Rise of the Nazis (TV Series 2019–2023) ⭐ 8.1 | Documentary, History, War

1h

www.imdb.com

It took Hitler less than 6 months to tighten his grip on power. As I watched this programme I was struck by the similarities between Germany and the US. Hitler and Trump.

Hitler waged war on German institutions. Its government, its press and of course its court system. When he had finished there was nothing left.He burned fown the Reichstag. Trump lanched an invasion of Congress.

Hitler told Germans that he was the only answer to the problems of the state. Trump is doing that right now.

Hitlers followers had a violent core of street thugs who beat and murdered anybody that Hitler didnt like, They were paramilitary and wore their own uniforms. A bit like the proud boys and oath keepers. Violent thugs.

The threats of violence to prosecutors, judges and juries is something that they both share.

Hitler took his revenge on those who opposed him. Check out the story of Hans Litten. He was murdered in a camp for the crime of humiliating Hitler in court.

Of course Trump is threatening revenge on everyone who gets in his way.

Hitler and his group despised democracy. So do Trump and his chums. They just want power and too many "wrong" people vote. Election denying is pure fascism when it does not present any evidence. Its not just that trump is a narcissist. He is a deeply evil man.Like Hitler.

Hitler hated minorities. So does trump and trumpism. The nazis told women to get back in the home. So do trumpists. The nazis murdered gay folk. Trump vilifies them and works to remove them from society.

The nazis burned books, so does trumpism. Intellectuals were murdered by nazis. Check out trumpism and climate change.

This is not controversial. The biggest eye opener was the way that German society backed down at every opportunity. They thought that they were being clever. But Hitler just took the concession and moved on to the next level.

Those GOP politicians who have facilitated the rise of trump, looked the other way and swallowed their pride will have blood on their hands.

Trumpism isnt new. There is a long history of fascism in the US. If trump is elected then a noisy minority may see all their dreams come true.

How far? We're already there.

 

[Correll]

Sure troll, project all you want. You're not fooling anyone.

He's really not. None of them are at this point.


Yet, they have nothing else to offer.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

I was watching this programme again last night.
It was focussing on the disastrous Russian campaign that hitlar lost.
One of the themes of the debacle was the choices that hitler made in his key people.
All rubbish.
He appointed on image and loyalty. Forcing totally inadequate people into roles that they couldnt fulfil.
These people were prized for their loyalty so they got a pass for being shit at their jobs.
Very often these inadequates could phone it in but on occasion where they had to show leadership it all came tumbling down.The Siege of Stalingrad being a prime example.

Of coursse hitler was a psychopath and these lackeys were terrified of him. So they tended to just tell adolf things that he wanted to hear.
There was no value in pointing out the truth because you would be cancelled at best and shot at worst.

Of course these things could not happen again in modern democratic countries. The world has learned its lesson.

But when you look at a low grade character like "Pete" Hegseth. A drunken rapist. You cannt visualise him speaking truth to power.

But that isnt his job.He isnt there to run the defence department. He is there to blow smoke up trumps vast ass. He is very good at it.

But as I said the world has moved on since hitler.

 

[Sunni Man]

I was watching this programme again last night.
It was focussing on the disastrous Russian campaign that Hitler lost.
One of the themes of the debacle was the choices that Hitler made in his key people.
All rubbish.
He appointed on image and loyalty. Forcing totally inadequate people into roles that they couldnt fulfil.
These people were prized for their loyalty so they got a pass for being shit at their jobs.
Very often these inadequates could phone it in but on occasion where they had to show leadership it all came tumbling down.The Siege of Stalingrad being a prime example.

Of coursse hitler was a psychopath and these lackeys were terrified of him. So they tended to just tell adolf things that he wanted to hear.
There was no value in pointing out the truth because you would be cancelled at best and shot at worst.

Of course these things could not happen again in modern democratic countries. The world has learned its lesson.

But when you look at a low grade character like "Pete" Hegseth. A drunken rapist. You cannt visualise him speaking truth to power.

But that isnt his job.He isnt there to run the defence department. He is there to blow smoke up trumps vast ass. He is very good at it.

But as I said the world has moved on since hitler.

Mein Fuhrer was just misunderstood

 

[ReinyDays]

Mein Fuhrer was just misunderstood

He only killed white people ... so what's everybody's problem? ...

 

[Delldude]

Of course Trump is threatening revenge on everyone who gets in his way.

Trump isn't pushing a Muslim theocracy on our country.

How's that working out in the new Muslim Kingdom?

 

[Stann]

He only killed white people ... so what's everybody's problem? ...

Not true.

 

[Mac1958]

I was watching this programme again last night.
It was focussing on the disastrous Russian campaign that hitlar lost.
One of the themes of the debacle was the choices that hitler made in his key people.
All rubbish.
He appointed on image and loyalty. Forcing totally inadequate people into roles that they couldnt fulfil.
These people were prized for their loyalty so they got a pass for being shit at their jobs.
Very often these inadequates could phone it in but on occasion where they had to show leadership it all came tumbling down.The Siege of Stalingrad being a prime example.

Of coursse hitler was a psychopath and these lackeys were terrified of him. So they tended to just tell adolf things that he wanted to hear.
There was no value in pointing out the truth because you would be cancelled at best and shot at worst.

Of course these things could not happen again in modern democratic countries. The world has learned its lesson.

But when you look at a low grade character like "Pete" Hegseth. A drunken rapist. You cannt visualise him speaking truth to power.

But that isnt his job.He isnt there to run the defence department. He is there to blow smoke up trumps vast ass. He is very good at it.

But as I said the world has moved on since hitler.

This has been quite a history lesson, these last six months. One thing that is clear is that it's a process, not an overnight change. And one tactic that works INCREDIBLY well is simple, old fashioned intimidation. Threaten and punish one media outlet, or one company, or one legislator, and the rest know immediately that they have to get in line or else. You keep waiting for someone to say "**** you, no", but it just doesn't happen.

I think I had underestimated the effect and efficacy of that.

 

[dblack]

This has been quite a history lesson, these last six months. One thing that is clear is that it's a process, not an overnight change. And one tactic that works INCREDIBLY well is simple, old fashioned intimidation. Threaten and punish one media outlet, or one company, or one legislator, and the rest know immediately that they have to get in line or else. You keep waiting for someone to say "**** you, no", but it just doesn't happen.

I think I had underestimated the effect and efficacy of that.

And the eagerness of people to roll over for it. But our elections are primarily driven by fear-mongering. We're conditioned to respond to it.

 

[ReinyDays]

Not true.

Whoosh ...

 

[Stann]

Whoosh ...

Nazi Ideology was racist , antisemitic and ultra-nationalist. Their primary target was Jews ( not white ) and blacks in Germany. Definitely not white. As well as Roma people's or Gypsies - arguably not white. The whites who were attacked were social misfits , people with disabilities , both mental and physical , gays , freedom fighters and a significant number of Poles. For some reason they also targeted Jehovah's Witnesses. Maybe Hitler didn't like them knocking at his door.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

This has been quite a history lesson, these last six months. One thing that is clear is that it's a process, not an overnight change. And one tactic that works INCREDIBLY well is simple, old fashioned intimidation. Threaten and punish one media outlet, or one company, or one legislator, and the rest know immediately that they have to get in line or else. You keep waiting for someone to say "**** you, no", but it just doesn't happen.

I think I had underestimated the effect and efficacy of that.

Trump willbe gone soon and people will be able to restore the US quite qwickly. The way his govt be decree works it can be overturned by another single decree on day one.
But this episode has been sobering and a reminder how close the world is to the jungle. The craven response to trumpism has been shocking.
Not least by congress.

 

[hadit]

Trump willbe gone soon and people will be able to restore the US quite qwickly. The way his govt be decree works it can be overturned by another single decree on day one.
But this episode has been sobering and a reminder how close the world is to the jungle. The craven response to trumpism has been shocking.
Not least by congress.

Yeah, we saw how well that worked when Quid Pro Joe undid everything he could get his hands on his first day in office, good idea or not.

 

[Mac1958]

Trump willbe gone soon and people will be able to restore the US quite qwickly. The way his govt be decree works it can be overturned by another single decree on day one.
But this episode has been sobering and a reminder how close the world is to the jungle. The craven response to trumpism has been shocking.
Not least by congress.

Well, we'll see. I'm done making any assumptions about the American voter. And I don't know how much long term damage is being done.