Zone1 How do you "love others as yourself"?

[Woodznutz]

You learn to love yourself first, caring for your own needs. After those needs are satisfied you can help others with their needs. Sacrificing your own needs for others is a zero-sum game.

 

[1srelluc]

That was very poorly written. The magic book is full of such poorly written stuff.

 

[Carl in Michigan]

You learn to love yourself first, caring for your own needs. After those needs are satisfied you can help others with their needs. Sacrificing your own needs for others is a zero-sum game.

Self focus is where you fail.
Just do no harm to others -- ALL CREATURES --you wouldn't do to yourself.

You don't have to "sacrifice yourself" neither do you "satisfy your needs first"

Is it cold, and you know someone who doesn't have a coat? You don't have to go out and buy him one, but if you have another, give it to them
It ain't that hard

Spend time actually reading what He said. We are without excuse

 

[Woodznutz]

Self focus is where you fail.
Just do no harm to others -- ALL CREATURES --you wouldn't do to yourself.

You don't have to "sacrifice yourself" neither do you "satisfy your needs first"

Spend time actually reading what He said. We are without excuse

Self-focus is absolutely necessary for spiritual growth.

 

[Carl in Michigan]

LSelf-focus is absolutely necessary for spiritual growth.

Not in the self centered context you're using it.

To "find yourself ' you must "lose yourself". To LIVE, the SELF must DIE

“Whoever loves his life loses it, whoever hates his life in this world will keep it for eternal life.”

 

[Woodznutz]

Not in the self centered context you're using it.

To "find yourself ' you must "lose yourself". To LIVE, the SELF must DIE

Everyone is "self-centered". Sadly, it's usually misguided and destructive.

God exhorts us to prepare ourselves for good works. He doesn't say prepare your neighbor. This requires careful attention to oneself. We are very valuable to God. We should reflect this in the way we treat ourselves.

 

[Woodznutz]

“Whoever loves his life loses it, whoever hates his life in this world will keep it for eternal life.”

The word for love in this verse is phileo. In the verses stating "love your neighbor as yourself" the word is agapeo.

 

[Woodznutz]

Self focus is where you fail.
Just do no harm to others -- ALL CREATURES --you wouldn't do to yourself.

You don't have to "sacrifice yourself" neither do you "satisfy your needs first"

Is it cold, and you know someone who doesn't have a coat? You don't have to go out and buy him one, but if you have another, give it to them
It ain't that hard

Spend time actually reading what He said. We are without excuse

You don't give another your only coat as that still leaves one in the cold, a zero-sum game. However, if you have "prepared yourself for good works" you will have the resources to provide a coat.

 

[Votto]

That was very poorly written. The magic book is full of such poorly written stuff.

Actually, it was poorly read

The Good Samaritan is the example Christ gave regarding loving others. Here we had a man dying on the side of the road and lifeless. Passers by did not move to help the man, except the one person that was his natural enemy, which was a Samaritan from the Northern Kingdom.

There is no relationship between the two even, except for the Samaritan seeing that a man made in the image of God needed help and he helped them. Not one word was spoken between these two strangers.

God is telling us that love in not a feeling, it is a choice.

 

[Carl in Michigan]

Everyone is "self-centered". Sadly, it's usually misguided and destructive.

God exhorts us to prepare ourselves for good works. He doesn't say prepare your neighbor. This requires careful attention to oneself. We are very valuable to God. We should reflect this in the way we treat ourselves.

You do. What don't you understand and how does that relate to you topic

 

[Carl in Michigan]

The word for love in this verse is phileo, not agape.

Your point being....
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[Carl in Michigan]

Actually, it was poorly read

The Good Samaritan is the example Christ gave regarding loving others. Here we had a man dying on the side of the road and lifeless. Passers by did not move to help the man, except the one person that was his natural enemy, which was a Samaritan from the Northern Kingdom.

There is no relationship between the two even, except for the Samaritan seeing that a man made in the image of God needed help and he helped them. Not one word was spoken between these two strangers.

God is telling us that love in not a feeling, it is a choice.

Sadly, your words remind me of this. Are ANY blacks NOT soulless? None on this bus have a soul

 

[Woodznutz]

Actually, it was poorly read

The Good Samaritan is the example Christ gave regarding loving others. Here we had a man dying on the side of the road and lifeless. Passers by did not move to help the man, except the one person that was his natural enemy, which was a Samaritan from the Northern Kingdom.

There is no relationship between the two even, except for the Samaritan seeing that a man made in the image of God needed help and he helped them. Not one word was spoken between these two strangers.

God is telling us that love in not a feeling, it is a choice.

Also, little noticed is that the Samaritan had the knowledge and the means to help the man. He was "prepared for good works".

 

[BreezeWood]

You learn to love yourself first, caring for your own needs. After those needs are satisfied you can help others with their needs. Sacrificing your own needs for others is a zero-sum game.

the advice from the heavens is to keep their sabbath, creation holy above all else - one of the grater failures of the desert religions, they care for themselves first ... blindly to help their neighbor while rapping the heavens, planet earth.

hereditary idolatry, paterfamilias, false commandments as worshiping their god - cornerstones of those false religions have always been impediments allowing their destructive self serving narratives to save themselves while decimating garden earth with as usual no remorse or consciousness for their crimes simply to repeat them over and over again.

 

[Woodznutz]

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Your point being....
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The great difference between selfish love and Godly love. If we are to love our neighbors with a Godly love, don't we love ourselves with the same? Phileo/love is expressed by feelings, agape/love is expressed by constructive judgment.

 

[Carl in Michigan]

Also, little noticed is that the Samaritan had the means to help the man.

So do you. You make choices. Why are you arguing so hard to do nothing?

If you don't want to exert effort for any other living being DON'T. God is your judge, not me

 

[Woodznutz]

Sadly, your words remind me of this. Are ANY blacks NOT soulless? None on this bus have a soul

Few even realized what had happened.

 

[Woodznutz]

So do you. You make choices. Why are you arguing so hard to do nothing?

If you don't want to exert effort for any other living being DON'T. God is your judge, not me

Are you saying that we should ignore the beam in our own eye and instead focus on the speck in our neighbor's eye?

If the blind lead the blind won't both fall into the ditch (words of Jesus)? One must gain his sight in order help the other (that's the way I read it).

 

[Woodznutz]

That was very poorly written. The magic book is full of such poorly written stuff.

However, a perennial best seller.

 

[Votto]

Also, little noticed is that the Samaritan had the knowledge and the means to help the man. He was "prepared for good works".

You can also turn the story around where God is the Good Samaritan, because only God is good.

There is humanity lifeless and unable to help itself as he scoops them up and takes them to someone whom he pays to care for them until their wound heal.

The innkeeper he paid to care for the man could be interpretted as God's people.