How so?
How do you feel about Israel's new "request" for more money?
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How many Arab nations has Israel made peace with and what is the common denominator? Israel?
Those are your words not mine and not Hama's either. They distinguish between Jews and the Israeli state, unlike you.
Hamas has indicated in its 2017 policy document a willingness to accept an interim Palestinian state along the 1967 borders—the West Bank, Gaza Strip, and East Jerusalem—without formally recognizing Israel. They have often proposed a hudna (long-term, binding truce) in exchange for this territory.
Very subjective, what else could it be. I think it is enough so that peace is not in Israel's interest.
See here.
Frankeneinstein
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they haven't worked out all the kinks yet
yeah I just figured since you were answering questions I would ask
Admiral Rockwell Tory
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What did the Israelis ever do to you? Just an anti-Semite?
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It's not the Jews as a people, like us it's a handful of power driven people on power there that cause the problems. They interfere in our government and we wouldn't have half the dangerous enemies in the world if we were not blindly obedient to them. It's not just them; it's our security state and Mossad manipulations that are bringing us to the brink of war.
What else could it be? Enough.
That's a ridiculous assertion. It's always been a question of terms. How many Arab states has Israel made peace with again?
I know. It was a rhetorical question. The point of the question was to give you some perspective.
We made peace with Japan after WWII once they accepted our terms.
That usually happens when it's an unconditional surrender. Is that how you see the Israeli's terms?
Churchill
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What did the Germans ever do to Americans? Nothing but your people still opposed that country and bombed it once, you some kind of teutophobe?
Without the American taxpayer ... Zionist Khazaria (occupied Palestine) would shrivel up and blow away with the Mideastern sands.
Israel definitely negotiated from a position of superior strength. With the USSR gone the Arab states were at a serious disadvantage but a peace is a peace and Israel only wanted security from her neighbors. I think Israel wants more than security from the Palestinians, they want territory.
Churchill
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Well said, it doesn't take much investigative effort to verify that US middle east policy is dictated by Israel. Almost everything the US does in the middle east is at the behest of Israel, we server their interests, they laugh at America behind closed doors, the US has become Israel's glove puppet.
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Can you be more specific?
Israel's borders have significantly expanded and shifted since 1948, primarily driven by wars, subsequent occupations, and, in some cases, peace agreements. From the initial 1947 UN Partition Plan and the 1949 Armistice Lines (Green Line), Israel grew by capturing territory in 1967, including the West Bank, Gaza Strip, Sinai Peninsula, and Golan Heights, later returning Sinai but retaining significant control over others.
Key Historical Shifts in Borders:
- 1947 UN Partition Plan: Proposed dividing British Mandate Palestine into separate Jewish and Arab states, with Jerusalem under international control.
- 1948-1949 War of Independence: Following the declaration of statehood, fighting with Arab neighbors resulted in armistice lines (the Green Line) that left Israel with more territory than in the UN plan.
- 1967 Six-Day War: A major expansion where Israel captured the West Bank and East Jerusalem (from Jordan), the Gaza Strip and Sinai Peninsula (from Egypt), and the Golan Heights (from Syria).
- 1979-1982 Sinai Withdrawal: As part of the peace treaty with Egypt, Israel returned the entire Sinai Peninsula.
- 1981 Golan Heights & East Jerusalem: Israel formally annexed East Jerusalem and the Golan Heights, moves not widely recognized by the international community.
- 1993-2005 Oslo Accords & Gaza Withdrawal: Interim agreements granted partial Palestinian control in parts of the West Bank. In 2005, Israel unilaterally withdrew all settlers and troops from the Gaza Strip.
- Current Situation: Israel maintains a de facto border with Gaza (subject to periodic conflict/reoccupation), controls most of the West Bank through settlements, and considers the Golan Heights its territory, with international status remaining contested.
Churchill
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Consider the nature of Israeli apartheid, as we speak that country is considering passing a death penalty law that specifically applies only to Palestinians and there are people here who will insist that isn't racist.
Israel split over plans to bring back death penalty for deadly attacks
In a highly controversial move, some Israeli MPs are trying to introduce the death penalty for Palestinian attackers.
www.bbc.com
sartre play
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They were a barrier against Islamic nations,
Until ITS NOW leader became a Totally dishonest person.
Power corrupts.
Until ITS NOW leader became a Totally dishonest person.
Power corrupts.
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