How do we get out of this?

[Correll]

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Lefties, so hypocritical, they are not PRO-VIETNAM WAR.

 

[Clipper]

Don’t blame Obama and Biden
This one is on Trump

Tell me it is short term when it becomes short term.
I dont trust Trumps assurances

I went to buy gas this morning
$3.89 a galon
It was $2.89 a month ago

Why isn’t Trump bragging about his gas prices now?

Because he's a moron living in a dream world.

 

[Mac-7]

Jews do not hate us

Thats crazy talk

If Massie said that he has a serious mental problem

 

[Lesh]

PART TWO:

Regime change can often work (but not always a guarantee);
We fought World War Two nominally to counter and then change regimes, in Germany, Japan, and Italy.
We won, and then changed those regimes.

Nation Building likewise can work and often has.
The USA fought a War of Independence for both a self regime change and also to engage in Building a New Nation in place of the old.
In the example of World War Two mentioned above, after the regime changes of the Axis Powers, those nations were rebuilt, in government and also repair of the economies damaged by the war (Thank you USA and Marshall Plan, etc.)
Would seem in cases of Germany and Japan the Nation Building worked out quite well. Italy maybe so-so, depending on viewpoint.

Thinking about children ?
As a parent and a grand-parent I've spent much of my life thinking about children, and their future. In many cases, Regime Change and Nation Building are about the children, present and future, and wanting to provide a better world for them, the future generations.

War horrific ?
Sometimes it can have it's value, but should not confuse the ends for the means, or means for the ends.

First Rule of War is to have a clear vision of the sort of Peace(results) you want.

Second Rule is have a clear idea, plan for how you wish to achieve your aim/goal/end results.

Third Rule is to apply your means as efficiently and economically as you can, so that the Peace that results wasn't more expensive than it's worth.

Nation building works?

Not recently

Iraq?

Afghanistan?

Syria?

Libya?

Nope

Especially with this clown show

 

[Nostra]

Nation building works?

Not recently

Iraq?

Afghanistan?

Syria?

Libya?

Nope

Especially with this clown show

But none of those were started by Trump, Moron.

 

[Lesh]

But none of those were started by Trump, Moron.

Did I say they were?

Are you claiming that because of Trump, all of a sudden we are now good at nation building?

What makes that true?

 

[Leo123]

You dumb cons get duped every time.

200 anti-Sharia bills were introduced in 43 States. Some passed. 3.5 million Muslims are affected in their personal faith. According to GROK, There are voluntary, limited applications that have to conform to Constitutional norms.

Just be aware that Iran was once a modern, thriving country until Muslims, with promises of a great society, crept in and instituted Sharia law that persecuted women for not wearing Burkas and just killed 30,000 innocent individuals protesting the repressive regime.

 

[Leo123]

Did I say they were?

Are you claiming that because of Trump, all of a sudden we are now good at nation building?

What makes that true?

It's true because Trump is successful at rebuilding the America almost destroyed by Marxist/Democrats. He has a track record.

 

[HikerGuy83]

Iran is not interested in peace talks: Iran war: Tehran sees no reason to talk with US

Our former friends have understandably told us to go to hell: European countries reject Trump’s call for help to reopen strait of Hormuz

Iran wants their pound of flesh for this, at least. They're not going to let us out of there without some pain.

I'm assuming that there's some kind of back-channel talking going on, but how else can we get of this mess? Can't Trump just declare some kind of victory and run? He can just make something up. That's what he does. Just keep saying "we won, we won".

Ideas?

Blow Iran into the stone age (it will be an upgrade for them).

 

[Nostra]

Did I say they were?

Are you claiming that because of Trump, all of a sudden we are now good at nation building?

What makes that true?

You said “ESPECIALLY WITH THIS CLOWN SHOW’

Trump had nothing to do with going into those countries, Short Bus.

 

[22lcidw]

Great. When are YOU enlisting?

To clarify things, you are the ones who despise Isolationism and Ameria first is repulsive. At worst, this is our way since the end of WW 2. The then Democrats played an important role in the post war order. This current incursion though needs to clean up at some point. The efficiency is incredible. The military/industrial complex and think tanks though have come up short with drones, low-cost explosive devices, etc. and our responses to them economically. Major rethinking is needed for2nd and 3rd world nations.

 

[Mac1958]

Nation building works?

From what I'm seeing, it appears they're happy to just destroy the country, and then destroy it again if it pokes its head up.

90+ million people.

This isn't about nation-building. It's not about ideology. It's not about geopolitical strategy. It's not about morality. It's Neanderthal. It's who and what they are.

 

[candycorn]

Great. When are YOU enlisting? Probably right after Baron and Don Jr…right?

kyzr …. We didn’t hear you. When you shopping out to fight in Iran?

 

[candycorn]

Great. When are YOU enlisting?

Independent thinker ….when you shipping out dude? If it’s worth dying for…you should be eager to go.

 

[gipper]

200 anti-Sharia bills were introduced in 43 States. Some passed. 3.5 million Muslims are affected in their personal faith. According to GROK, There are voluntary, limited applications that have to conform to Constitutional norms.

Just be aware that Iran was once a modern, thriving country until Muslims, with promises of a great society, crept in and instituted Sharia law that persecuted women for not wearing Burkas and just killed 30,000 innocent individuals protesting the repressive regime.

It still is a modern thriving country. You’ve been duped again by the Zionist state run media.

 

[gipper]

Blow Iran into the stone age (it will be an upgrade for them).

Dumb Trumpers now love war. They salivate at mass murdering, as long a they don’t have to do it.

 

[kyzr]

kyzr …. We didn’t hear you. When you shopping out to fight in Iran?

Who says we need to? Remember how we got Maduro?
If we control Kharg island we control their oil, and their finances.
We can turn their lights off any time we want.
Don't fight the last war.

 

[georgephillip]

The reason that the borders of France, UK and Germany are open to allow muslim horders to enter their nations and destroy their societies,

is becasue the leadership of those nation have betrayed their own people, and allow it.

They have the ability to control their borders if they want.

Just like Trump did.

Lefties said it couldn't happen.

Trump made it happen in weeks.

Imperialism as practiced by European colonial powers created political violence and environmental destruction across their former colonies forcing mass displacement; those capitalist countries who became rich from their colonies deserve the migrant flows they are currently receiving.

GoogleAI Overview:

"Imperialism, the Highest Stage of Capitalism is a 1916 book by Vladimir Lenin that argues imperialism is the final, most advanced stage of capitalism, characterized by monopolies, the export of capital, and the division of the world among imperial powers, leading to inter-imperialist conflict and war.

"Written as a Marxist analysis, it expands on Karl Marx's theories, explaining how finance capital dominates and how the exploitation of colonies allows the ruling class to bribe the 'labor aristocracy' in their home countries, thus preventing revolution"

 

[gipper]

Jews do not hate us

Thats crazy talk

If Massie said that he has a serious mental problem

You approve of your nation being controlled by Israel. Traitor!

 

[gipper]

Jews do not hate us

Thats crazy talk

If Massie said that he has a serious mental problem

Listen to your hero from decades ago! Traitor!