How do we get out of this?

[Nobody911]

Iran is not interested in peace talks: Iran war: Tehran sees no reason to talk with US

Our former friends have understandably told us to go to hell: European countries reject Trump’s call for help to reopen strait of Hormuz

Iran wants their pound of flesh for this, at least. They're not going to let us out of there without some pain.

I'm assuming that there's some kind of back-channel talking going on, but how else can we get of this mess? Can't Trump just declare some kind of victory and run? He can just make something up. That's what he does. Just keep saying "we won, we won".

Ideas?

lol. Too late. Who are you? You can fight against the wealthy? Do you know anything about lobbying in White House?

The rich will get richer from the war. Mostly U.S. defense and energy firms, plus some intelligence/analytics and shipping/tanker businesses are now super happy!

Key names and why:

• Lockheed Martin, Northrop Grumman, Raytheon/RTX, General Dynamics, L3Harris, Boeing Defense — demand for missiles, fighters, radars, missile‑defense and airframe support rises; governments accelerate procurement and sustainment spending → higher revenues, backlogs, and stock gains.
• Palantir — military/intelligence data analytics and mission‑software contracts become more valuable during active operations.
• Kratos, AeroVironment, other drone/loitering‑munitions makers — increased procurement of drones and counter‑UAS systems.
• ExxonMobil, Chevron, ConocoPhillips, Occidental, Cheniere Energy, Venture Global — oil & LNG producers/exporters benefit from higher energy prices and tighter regional supply (Strait of Hormuz risk).
• Tanker/shipping firms (e.g., Frontline, International Seaways, Maersk/Hapag‑Lloyd internationally) — rerouting, higher freight/tanker rates and demand for alternate routes increase revenues.
• Cypher/security suppliers and some private military/contractor services — logistics, ISR, and force‑protection contracts expand.

Overall: military action raises near‑term demand for weapons, missile defense, ISR/intelligence services and logistics, while geopolitical risk pushes oil and LNG prices higher, benefiting energy producers and related transport firms.

sources:

• https://intellectia.ai/news/stock/defense-stocks-rise-after-usisraeli-strikes-on-iran
• The market winners: Which stocks are 'boosted' by the Iran war so far?

And...here is one reason why Iran is always against Israel - especially zionism. Iran supports Palestinians!

GENEVA, March 17 (Xinhua) -- A report released on Tuesday by the Office of the United Nations (UN) High Commissioner for Human Rights said the Israeli government has accelerated the expansion of unlawful settlements in the West Bank, including East Jerusalem, displacing more than 36,000 Palestinians amid escalating violence by Israeli security forces and settlers.

sources:

- Israel's settlement expansion drives mass displacement of Palestinians: UN report-Xinhua – Israel's settlement expansion drives mass displacement of Palestinians: UN report

 

[Luckyone]

Not deflecting. We're making a comparison.

For what reason? Comparisons do not "fix" or address the problem. In addition, comparison is addressing the messenger and not the problem. Like if addressing the problem is not important. The past cannot be changed but the future can. Obama and Biden no longer have control of what happens to us, but Trump does!! Address the issue so it can be resolved.................not compared.

 

[Darkwind]

Is that blackmail? Wrong or right just do what I SAY?
Is just one person running USA? Thought we paid good money for people with expertise to help us run the country.
What is really going on?

Well, we are paying shit money to at least the left-leaning half of Congress, and ALL of them have abdicated their roles in our government regarding the sovereignty of our nation.

Having said that, until such time as the Democrarts stop supporting our enemies and the criminals they let into this country, I'm good with Trump making these decisions.

Iran should have been eliminated as a threat 30 years ago. Ask yourself, why would anyone wait until a country HAD a nuclear weapon before acting on it?

The truth is, Imminent threat has NEVER been the standard by which our country defends itself from bad actors.

 

[leftwinger]

Don’t blame Obama and Biden
This one is on Trump

Tell me it is short term when it becomes short term.
I dont trust Trumps assurances

I went to buy gas this morning
$3.89 a galon
It was $2.89 a month ago

Why isn’t Trump bragging about his gas prices now?

So? Still less than Obiden q.0 or $6 Obiden 2.0 and it won't last 3 months? And you don't get up to go fill with gas you storytelling arsejack. Then come home and post? You fill up if you go to work or out for a longer trip.

Get off the boards dopey forker. $1 extra cost you $20 per tank once every two weeks or a month. You got nowhere to go you sheeatstained hack.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

For what reason? Comparisons do not "fix" or address the problem. In addition, comparison is addressing the messenger and not the problem. Like if bringing the problem is not important. The past cannot be changed but the future can. Obama and Biden no longer have control of what happens to us, but Trump does!! Address the issue so it can be resolved.................not compared.

I know but why weren't you screaming when obama and biden were jim jonesing it to the dem masses and they were lapping it up like sweet nectarine? But now, you wringing your hands? Naw, your words are hollow.

 

[22lcidw]

Well, we are paying shit money to at least the left-leaning half of Congress, and ALL of them have abdicated their roles in our government regarding the sovereignty of our nation.

Having said that, until such time as the Democrarts stop supporting our enemies and the criminals they let into this country, I'm good with Trump making these decisions.

Iran should have been eliminated as a threat 30 years ago. Ask yourself, why would anyone wait until a country HAD a nuclear weapon before acting on it?

The truth is, Imminent threat has NEVER been the standard by which our country defends itself from bad actors.

I do question one thing. For many of the years since 1979, we citizens are told that Iran was a few weeks from nukes. A few months from nukes. And so on. endless. Several months ago, we supposedly ended their nuclear program. And then a couple of weeks ago, this. The Shah was dictatorial yet modern. The Ayatollahs are dictatorial and believe in medieval ways of living while using modern weapon technologies to eliminate their enemies.

 

[leftwinger]

Unlike Globalist LGTBQ BoardStain & phony lying MiddleStain, I wish for success in Iran. Rid the terrorist overlords. Slow terrorism. Free the people. Let them prosper. Let them buy American goods when they do prosper. Bring down Oil again.

Stain wish for failure so they can TDS. But Iran military is 90% weaker right ow than last month? They can still try to export terrorism or kill Iranian girls I suppose. But now everyone is o high alert.

 

[gipper]

But the mullahs murdering tens of thousands of them as they protest endears the regime in the eyes of the people? LOL

Propaganda. Do you always believe it?

Why do you care about Iranians killed by their government, while supporting a genocide of Palestinians?

 

[Luckyone]

lol. Too late. Who are you? You can fight against the wealthy? Do you know anything about lobbying in White House?

The rich will get richer from the war. Mostly U.S. defense and energy firms, plus some intelligence/analytics and shipping/tanker businesses are now super happy!

Key names and why:

• Lockheed Martin, Northrop Grumman, Raytheon/RTX, General Dynamics, L3Harris, Boeing Defense — demand for missiles, fighters, radars, missile‑defense and airframe support rises; governments accelerate procurement and sustainment spending → higher revenues, backlogs, and stock gains.
• Palantir — military/intelligence data analytics and mission‑software contracts become more valuable during active operations.
• Kratos, AeroVironment, other drone/loitering‑munitions makers — increased procurement of drones and counter‑UAS systems.
• ExxonMobil, Chevron, ConocoPhillips, Occidental, Cheniere Energy, Venture Global — oil & LNG producers/exporters benefit from higher energy prices and tighter regional supply (Strait of Hormuz risk).
• Tanker/shipping firms (e.g., Frontline, International Seaways, Maersk/Hapag‑Lloyd internationally) — rerouting, higher freight/tanker rates and demand for alternate routes increase revenues.
• Cypher/security suppliers and some private military/contractor services — logistics, ISR, and force‑protection contracts expand.

Overall: military action raises near‑term demand for weapons, missile defense, ISR/intelligence services and logistics, while geopolitical risk pushes oil and LNG prices higher, benefiting energy producers and related transport firms.

sources:

• https://intellectia.ai/news/stock/defense-stocks-rise-after-usisraeli-strikes-on-iran
• The market winners: Which stocks are 'boosted' by the Iran war so far?

And...here is one reason why Iran is always against Israel - especially zionism. Iran supports Palestinians!

GENEVA, March 17 (Xinhua) -- A report released on Tuesday by the Office of the United Nations (UN) High Commissioner for Human Rights said the Israeli government has accelerated the expansion of unlawful settlements in the West Bank, including East Jerusalem, displacing more than 36,000 Palestinians amid escalating violence by Israeli security forces and settlers.

sources:

- Israel's settlement expansion drives mass displacement of Palestinians: UN report-Xinhua – Israel's settlement expansion drives mass displacement of Palestinians: UN report

 

[sartre play]

Demand that both party's stop working for self, donners and political party only.
and start working for All AMERICANS.

 

[eagle1462010]

So Trump said that "nobody expected" Iran to attack other gulf states.

Kind of like "no one knew how complicated health care was".

Holy crap. Historic incompetence. He has surrounded himself with obedient, ignorant idiots. This is EXACTLY how authoritarian regimes fall and take a country with them.

So. No one really knew they would do that.

 

[rightwinger]

So? Still less than Obiden q.0 or $6 Obiden 2.0 and it won't last 3 months? And you don't get up to go fill with gas you storytelling arsejack. Then come home and post? You fill up if you go to work or out for a longer trip.

Get off the boards dopey forker. $1 extra cost you $20 per tank once every two weeks or a month. You got nowhere to go you sheeatstained hack.

Gas went up under Biden because of COVID supply chain issues and the war in Ukraine. Things out of his control

Gas shot up $1 a gallon in a few weeks because of a decision TRUMP made.

Americans oppose it
Congress did not support it
Our allies opposed it

 

[Rawley]

Propaganda. Do you always believe it?

Why do you care about Iranians killed by their government, while supporting a genocide of Palestinians?

Because I support DA JOOOOS

 

[rightwinger]

Get in. Get it done before marshmellowed not DemWitted loons steal the WH and undo it

No more GWB or Romney allowed either. I wolud vote only a Trump clone, no Congress slime. I did my duty.

We are paying a price for your support

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Iran is not interested in peace talks: Iran war: Tehran sees no reason to talk with US

Our former friends have understandably told us to go to hell: European countries reject Trump’s call for help to reopen strait of Hormuz

Iran wants their pound of flesh for this, at least. They're not going to let us out of there without some pain.

I'm assuming that there's some kind of back-channel talking going on, but how else can we get of this mess? Can't Trump just declare some kind of victory and run? He can just make something up. That's what he does. Just keep saying "we won, we won".

Ideas?

The only "out" is for Trump to get bored of the whole thing.

He's already just about there.

 

[Mac1958]

The only "out" is for Trump to get bored of the whole thing.

He's already just about there.

Like with Epstein: "Why do you guys keep bringing this up! Fake news!"

The problem is, Iran won't walk away from Hormuz.

 

[rightwinger]

The only "out" is for Trump to get bored of the whole thing.

He's already just about there.

Trump will grow tired that it is taking so long. He will proclaim victory, pull out and let Iran go to hell.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Like with Epstein: "Why do you guys keep bringing this up! Fake news!"

The problem is, Iran won't walk away from Hormuz.

They will eventually, when they are ready to ship their own oil through the Strait.

 

[Luckyone]

I know but why weren't you screaming when obama and biden were jim jonesing it to the dem masses and they were lapping it up like sweet nectarine? But now, you wringing your hands? Naw, your words are hollow.

Let's put your reply under review. For the sake of this debate, let say that you are right (though you are not right), and "Obama and Biden were Jim Jonesing it to the Dem masses and they were lapping it up like sweet nectarine, and I am wringing my hands on it", how does that address my reply to "sparky" post about the fact that Trump has declared victory and should get out and my saying that "He has declared victory and he has not gotten out"

Where does that have anything to do with Obama or Biden. Did they declare victory and not get out? Does that change anything that Trump is doing now?

 

[leftwinger]

Like with Epstein: "Why do you guys keep bringing this up! Fake news!"

The problem is, Iran won't walk away from Hormuz.

Eventually they will or be dragged away to an incinerator.