How Can White Americans Be Democrats ?

[JoeB131]

Oh please, you don't know why they were released. You don't even read links people post here because you don't want to know the truth. So I seriously doubt you studied capital punishment in the United States. That's besides the fact I only believe in the death penalty when empirical evidence convicts the suspect.

You really think that those people involved in sending Rolando Cruz to the death chamber didn't really think "empirical" evidence convicted him? the cops who lied, the prosecutors who refused to turn over exculpatory evidence, they were absolutely convinced he was their guy.

Not many rich people rob other people and kill them in the process, or get involved in drug deals with lower income street pushers.

How's this for an example. The Menedez brothers. Shot their mom and dad for their money. Got a bunch of fancy lawyers, were as guilty as shit, didn't get the death penalty. Put out some bullshit about how they were molested as kids no one really thought was true.

OOOOOOR- the big magilla of all of them. O.J. Simpson. Even before a black jury told white America to go fuck itself, they took the DP off the table before the trial ever began.

Bull. I showed you the charts of Australia and how gun confiscation didn't work when it comes to murders. Furthermore where guns were removed, other violent crime increased such as rapes, physical attacks and robberies.

Because the charts are bullshit. Australia doesn't have anywhere near the crime rates we have.

 

[Bush92]

Oh please, you don't know why they were released. You don't even read links people post here because you don't want to know the truth. So I seriously doubt you studied capital punishment in the United States. That's besides the fact I only believe in the death penalty when empirical evidence convicts the suspect.

You really think that those people involved in sending Rolando Cruz to the death chamber didn't really think "empirical" evidence convicted him? the cops who lied, the prosecutors who refused to turn over exculpatory evidence, they were absolutely convinced he was their guy.

Not many rich people rob other people and kill them in the process, or get involved in drug deals with lower income street pushers.

How's this for an example. The Menedez brothers. Shot their mom and dad for their money. Got a bunch of fancy lawyers, were as guilty as shit, didn't get the death penalty. Put out some bullshit about how they were molested as kids no one really thought was true.

OOOOOOR- the big magilla of all of them. O.J. Simpson. Even before a black jury told white America to go fuck itself, they took the DP off the table before the trial ever began.

Bull. I showed you the charts of Australia and how gun confiscation didn't work when it comes to murders. Furthermore where guns were removed, other violent crime increased such as rapes, physical attacks and robberies.

Because the charts are bullshit. Australia doesn't have anywhere near the crime rates we have.

Menendez and OJ are anomalies. The vast majority of crime takes place in our inner cities among the welfare recipient population. Ray is correct. Also, thank you for showing that a black jury didn’t care about justice...just racism.

 

[JoeB131]

Menendez and OJ are anomalies. The vast majority of crime takes place in our inner cities among the welfare recipient population. Ray is correct. Also, thank you for showing that a black jury didn’t care about justice...just racism.

They aren't anamolies... they are just another example of how we have one set of rules for the rich, and one set of rules for the poor.

Again, can you name a case where a rich person did a horrible crime and was executed?

You can't.

 

[Bush92]

Menendez and OJ are anomalies. The vast majority of crime takes place in our inner cities among the welfare recipient population. Ray is correct. Also, thank you for showing that a black jury didn’t care about justice...just racism.

They aren't anamolies... they are just another example of how we have one set of rules for the rich, and one set of rules for the poor.

Again, can you name a case where a rich person did a horrible crime and was executed?

You can't.

The question was on the numbers on crime and who commits them in country. Now your going to bring your superhero social justice shit into the argument and how the poor have been victimized by the free market. Nice try to move the goal line.

 

[JoeB131]

The question was on the numbers on crime and who commits them in country. Now your going to bring your superhero social justice shit into the argument and how the poor have been victimized by the free market. Nice try to move the goal line.

No, the question that I asked was, have we ever executed a rich person for committing a horrible crime. I didn't ask about numbers.

The reality is, we don't. If you are rich, you get good lawyers. You get to wear a different suit to court every day and they actually fit (unlike a poor person, who is probably wearing the first suit of his life and it hangs over him.) You get jury consultants. You get testimony coaches. You get private labs to challenge the evidence.

If every defendant got an OJ or Menedez level defense, we'd empty the prisons.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

You really think that those people involved in sending Rolando Cruz to the death chamber didn't really think "empirical" evidence convicted him? the cops who lied, the prosecutors who refused to turn over exculpatory evidence, they were absolutely convinced he was their guy.

Not familiar with the case, so I read up on it.

No, there was not empirical evidence. In fact, it wasn't until the early 90's when DNA became perfected that he and his lowlife buddy were acquitted. But as I said earlier, if they're not guilty of murder, they are guilty of something. The murder took place in 1985 which is all the way back to the beginning of Reagan's second term.

As it turns out, the only reason cops suspected him was because this well known gang member tried to steal $10,000 from the government in way of reward money leading to the suspect. Had he never tried that stunt, the cops would have never suspected him of anything.

Because the charts are bullshit. Australia doesn't have anywhere near the crime rates we have.

I didn't say they did. What I said is that their gun ban didn't do any good when it came to crime rates. Obviously, once again, you didn't even click my Captains Journal link which has all the stats.

 

[JoeB131]

Not familiar with the case, so I read up on it.

No, there was not empirical evidence. In fact, it wasn't until the early 90's when DNA became perfected that he and his lowlife buddy were acquitted. But as I said earlier, if they're not guilty of murder, they are guilty of something. The murder took place in 1985 which is all the way back to the beginning of Reagan's second term.

Yeah, they were guilty of being Hispanic... that's what they were "guilty" of. The thing was, even before they went to trial the first time, another guy - a white guy - named Brian Dugan copped to the murder, and said he would allocute if they took the DP off the table. He was already in prison for murdering two other people. But again- white privilege.

So these two guys got convicted TWICE because even though another guy confessed, they were going balls to the wall to convict these two darkies.

Oh, but it gets better. (It always gets better). They actually put the cops and prosecutors on trial. Not only were they acquitted, the jury went out and had drinks with them afterwards.

As it turns out, the only reason cops suspected him was because this well known gang member tried to steal $10,000 from the government in way of reward money leading to the suspect. Had he never tried that stunt, the cops would have never suspected him of anything.

Yeah, that's a great excuse for trying to railroad two people of color... because they ticked you off. Not that you had any evidence. All the evidence was manufactured. And shit, don't admit you made a mistake when the REAL killer fesses up! Go full throttle to convict the two innocent guys.

What I said is that their gun ban didn't do any good when it came to crime rates

Well, actually, it did because the murder rate went down.

 

[JoeB131]

Obviously, once again, you didn't even click my Captains Journal link which has all the stats.

Naw, man, I stopped linking to your sources when you tried to claim that a town in Germany put up a statue of Hitler and it was a parody website.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

The question was on the numbers on crime and who commits them in country. Now your going to bring your superhero social justice shit into the argument and how the poor have been victimized by the free market. Nice try to move the goal line.

No, the question that I asked was, have we ever executed a rich person for committing a horrible crime. I didn't ask about numbers.

The reality is, we don't. If you are rich, you get good lawyers. You get to wear a different suit to court every day and they actually fit (unlike a poor person, who is probably wearing the first suit of his life and it hangs over him.) You get jury consultants. You get testimony coaches. You get private labs to challenge the evidence.

If every defendant got an OJ or Menedez level defense, we'd empty the prisons.

It's just a matter of odds. Less than two percent of convicted murderers actually get the death penalty or have it carried out. In my state, you can't be sentenced to the death penalty unless the murder was in the process of another crime such as robbery. In states that do have the death penalty, I'm sure they have their stipulations as well.

Wealthy people who commit capital crimes are extremely rare.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Obviously, once again, you didn't even click my Captains Journal link which has all the stats.

Naw, man, I stopped linking to your sources when you tried to claim that a town in Germany put up a statue of Hitler and it was a parody website.

You are FOS as usual. You never read sources long before that; by your own admission.

 

[Lysistrata]

What is the connection between a race/ethnicity and a political party? I've been ignoring this thread for long time, but I still wonder what the connection is. Is the republican party a "white" party"? Please explain.

 

[Bush92]

The question was on the numbers on crime and who commits them in country. Now your going to bring your superhero social justice shit into the argument and how the poor have been victimized by the free market. Nice try to move the goal line.

No, the question that I asked was, have we ever executed a rich person for committing a horrible crime. I didn't ask about numbers.

The reality is, we don't. If you are rich, you get good lawyers. You get to wear a different suit to court every day and they actually fit (unlike a poor person, who is probably wearing the first suit of his life and it hangs over him.) You get jury consultants. You get testimony coaches. You get private labs to challenge the evidence.

If every defendant got an OJ or Menedez level defense, we'd empty the prisons.

OJ verdict was straight racism. Wealth had nothing to do with it. Menendez brothers were found guilty by a jury and as recall so were Martha Stewart, Paul Manafort, and a whole list of other wealthy nonviolent criminals. Wealthy usually commit nonviolent white collar crime and even then their wealth does not save them from justice. Money didn’t save Lefty Bulchalter from Old Sparky and it is the state that decides whether or not to ask for the death penalty. Also,you imply that American system of justice often comes down to a fashion statement. I don’t think so. I believe the evidence has something to do with it don’t you?

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Yeah, they were guilty of being Hispanic... that's what they were "guilty" of.

No, he was guilty of trying to steal money. Nobody would have suspected him of anything if not for the fact he was a thief and a gang member.

Yeah, that's a great excuse for trying to railroad two people of color... because they ticked you off. Not that you had any evidence. All the evidence was manufactured. And shit, don't admit you made a mistake when the REAL killer fesses up! Go full throttle to convict the two innocent guys.

Murderers are kooks. We've seen many cases in the past where people claim to have murdered somebody or some people and it turns out it was impossible. They were either already in prison or didn't even live in the state.

Well, actually, it did because the murder rate went down.

The murder rate was going down long before the ban. It didn't change trajectory until six years after the ban. And as I pointed out, because people could no longer defend themselves, other violent crimes increased.

 

[Bush92]

What is the connection between a race/ethnicity and a political party? I've been ignoring this thread for long time, but I still wonder what the connection is. Is the republican party a "white" party"? Please explain.

Because the Democratic Party is absolutely of the position that all minorities are victims of white Americans and that white Americans were born with privilege. Straight racism.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

What is the connection between a race/ethnicity and a political party? I've been ignoring this thread for long time, but I still wonder what the connection is. Is the republican party a "white" party"? Please explain.

The Republican party is open to anybody that wishes to join. But we can't go out, club people over the head and drag them to the RNC.

In recent years, the Democrat party has become the anti-white party, so white people who are aware of their antics are leaving the party behind.

 

[JoeB131]

It's just a matter of odds. Less than two percent of convicted murderers actually get the death penalty or have it carried out. In my state, you can't be sentenced to the death penalty unless the murder was in the process of another crime such as robbery. In states that do have the death penalty, I'm sure they have their stipulations as well.

Wealthy people who commit capital crimes are extremely rare.

Obviously not rare enough... and they don't get the death penalty because they get good lawyers and all the other things I mentioned. SO it's another wonderful case of white wealthy privilege.

again, when you execute a rich person for a horrific crime, then I will go along with executing poor people for them. Or we could just try the humane and sane policy of not killing anyone to try to prove killing is wrong.

You are FOS as usual. You never read sources long before that; by your own admission.

You had to come up with a particularly absurd one for me to even bother, I'll give you that. But when I did, it turned out to be a parody website,which you would have realized if you read past the headline.

 

[JoeB131]

Because the Democratic Party is absolutely of the position that all minorities are victims of white Americans and that white Americans were born with privilege. Straight racism.

Acknowledging a reality is racism?

Hey, I'm a white male, I know that I get massive advantages of being a white male in this society in terms of hiring, how I am handled by law enforcement, how I am regarded in a store....

for instance, I went into a store once, and saw a sign that said "no hats allowed", and the clerk behind the counter said, "No, that's not for you!" Nope, it was for those minority kids.

 

[Lysistrata]

What is the connection between a race/ethnicity and a political party? I've been ignoring this thread for long time, but I still wonder what the connection is. Is the republican party a "white" party"? Please explain.

The Republican party is open to anybody that wishes to join. But we can't go out, club people over the head and drag them to the RNC.

In recent years, the Democrat party has become the anti-white party, so white people who are aware of their antics are leaving the party behind.

I'm of European descent and I am female. What is so "anti-white" about the Democratic Party? While you are at it, please explain how the republican party degenerated into a party of hatred against just about everybody. People like you are responsible for lowlife sewer vermin like trump and pence being in office, so a clear and detailed explanation is in order.

 

[Dragonlady]

What is the connection between a race/ethnicity and a political party? I've been ignoring this thread for long time, but I still wonder what the connection is. Is the republican party a "white" party"? Please explain.

Because the Democratic Party is absolutely of the position that all minorities are victims of white Americans and that white Americans were born with privilege. Straight racism.

So you're in complete denial that there's any racial discrimination at play in the USA at all. Blacks have equal opportunities in jobs, education and housing. That "zero tolerance" sentencing hasn't achieved the highest rates of incarceration in the world - not just the free world, and the inmates are not disproportionately black and brown.

You're in total denial that there's a race problem that needs to be addressed in the USA at all? Is that what you're saying?

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

What is the connection between a race/ethnicity and a political party? I've been ignoring this thread for long time, but I still wonder what the connection is. Is the republican party a "white" party"? Please explain.

The Republican party is open to anybody that wishes to join. But we can't go out, club people over the head and drag them to the RNC.

In recent years, the Democrat party has become the anti-white party, so white people who are aware of their antics are leaving the party behind.

I'm of European descent and I am female. What is so "anti-white" about the Democratic Party? While you are at it, please explain how the republican party degenerated into a party of hatred against just about everybody. People like you are responsible for lowlife sewer vermin like trump and pence being in office, so a clear and detailed explanation is in order.

Well I don't take demands from people, but I have some time to kill before shopping.

Democrats are trying desperately to eliminate white people; not in a genocidal way, but a political way.

You see every other group of people outside of whites votes a majority Democrat. This interferes with their long-term goal of making this country a single-party government. To do that, they need to make whites a minority for the first time in history.

Once that is complete, then the great experiment is over. We will quickly slip into Socialism, and eventually spin into Communism. The Democrat dream is to have total control over the people.

This is the reason Democrats are fighting so hard to have immigrants in this country; to wipe out the white race. It's why they fight to maintain their Sanctuary cities, and even morphed that into Sanctuary states. They fought tooth and nail to keep new walls from being erected, even to the point of shutting down the government for the longest time in history. They used judicial activism to stop Trump's travel ban. They even welcome illegals by providing them drivers licenses and sending their kids to our schools that we pay for.

Brainwashing works well for the Democrats. It's why they use it and why you believe the Republicans are a party of hate. It's why you hate Trump so much. The country has never done better especially when it comes to minorities and women; breaking employment records and increasing household income. Reducing government dependency and taxation for all levels of income earners. Business confidence at it's highest level, and record breaking levels for small business owners. So in spite of all the great things Trump has done for this country, here is why you still hate him:

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