How Can White Americans Be Democrats ?

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Well I don't take demands from people, but I have some time to kill before shopping.

Democrats are trying desperately to eliminate white people; not in a genocidal way, but a political way.

You see every other group of people outside of whites votes a majority Democrat. This interferes with their long-term goal of making this country a single-party government. To do that, they need to make whites a minority for the first time in history.

Once that is complete, then the great experiment is over. We will quickly slip into Socialism, and eventually spin into Communism. The Democrat dream is to have total control over the people.

This is the reason Democrats are fighting so hard to have immigrants in this country; to wipe out the white race. It's why they fight to maintain their Sanctuary cities, and even morphed that into Sanctuary states. They fought tooth and nail to keep new walls from being erected, even to the point of shutting down the government for the longest time in history. They used judicial activism to stop Trump's travel ban. They even welcome illegals by providing them drivers licenses and sending their kids to our schools that we pay for.

Brainwashing works well for the Democrats. It's why they use it and why you believe the Republicans are a party of hate. It's why you hate Trump so much. The country has never done better especially when it comes to minorities and women; breaking employment records and increasing household income. Reducing government dependency and taxation for all levels of income earners. Business confidence at it's highest level, and record breaking levels for small business owners. So in spite of all the great things Trump has done for this country, here is why you still hate him:

Anti-Trump Media? 92% Of Coverage Of His Presidency Is Negative: Study | Investor's Business Daily
I don't know what makes me sadder - that you believe the crap you just posted, or that you will continue to believe it.

Democrats are NOT trying to eliminate or replace white people. That's completely false but you believe it because that's what Republicans tell you.

The bald fact is that white people aren't moving to the USA. It's not a good country to emigrate to - your education system is the worst in the free world, your health care is costs double anywhere else in the world, and unless you go to a top hospital for care, it's shit as well. Then there's the ridiculous wild west gun laws.

You need immigration to fill the millions of unfilled vacancies. And it won't be white because you won't even bother to retrain the millions of displaced workers you have. Every man, woman and child for themselves. The government will fuck up the economy but if you're not rich and white, you're on your own.
First you say that America is such an awful place, but can't explain why we have to put so much effort into keeping people out.

Republicans don't tell me what to think. Find me one Republican representative that said what I just did. Knowing Democrats is knowing the devil himself. Only closed minded people think that Democrats do anything without an ulterior motive.
It's not white people that you're keeping out. You're BEGGING white people to emigrate and white people are laughing in your faces. European companies have to give executives BONUS PAY, to get them to take jobs in the US, and even then it's a struggle.

Your country is only desireable to those coming from more dangerous places, and because people in Third World countries still believe that "land of opportunity" bullshit that's been in steep decline since Reagan was elected.

The Decline of Social Mobility in America - The Atlantic

But the MOST telling indicator of Republican lies that their policies reduce poverty by giving people JOBS, is shownn in this the tracking of poverty rates in the USA over the past 20 years:

<a href="U.S. poverty rate by year 1990-2017 | Statista" rel="nofollow"><img src="https://www.statista.com/graphic/1/200463/us-poverty-rate-since-1990.jpg" alt="Statistic: Poverty rate in the United States from 1990 to 2017 | Statista" style="width: 100%; height: auto !important; max-width:1000px;-ms-interpolation-mode: bicubic;"/></a><br />Find more statistics at <a href="• Statista - The Statistics Portal for Market Data, Market Research and Market Studies" rel="nofollow">Statista</a>

2017 is the last year that poverty rate statistics have been published for, so we can't see the impact of the Trump presidency yet.
The US Census totally disagrees with you.

Income and Poverty in the United States: 2017

We don't beg anybody to come to the US. We have over 320 million people as it is, and it's a privilege to be accepted here. True, we don't get a lot of European immigrants because they are quite happy with what they created over there. I don't blame them. I have no desire to move to Europe either.

In the US, most everybody is in charge of their own destination. It's a matter of what you're willing to do, what you are willing to sacrifice, and what you're willing to invest in. However it's not 1970 anymore. You can't turn nuts onto bolts and make 50K a year any longer. You need to get into a field of work or otherwise get training to make a living here. But you can still do it.

Walmart to hire hundreds of truck drivers, raise salary to nearly $90,000
Truck driving jobs are the first to be eliminated with the self-driving trucks which are in development right now. It's not a field that will grow for long.

Today, there are fewer and fewer middle class jobs, and there is much more competition to get them. People are stuck in low level jobs longer, and with the increased student debt of the last 15 years, these young people can't afford to buy new homes, or start their adult lives.

You've posted in the past that in an effort to provide a stable retirement for yourself, you haven't married or had children and you've saved relentlessly. No society can sustain itself if their residents can't afford to marry, have children and raise a family. Millenials are marrying, buying homes and having children, on average, 5 years later than Gen X and nearly 10 years later than baby boomers.

The bald fact is that white people aren't having as many children because THEY CAN'T AFFORD TO RAISE THEM. Period. My father raised 6 children on a factory worker's salary. Admittedly, they had a small two bedroom house, a huge backyard garden, raised chickens, and canned and preserved everything they grew, but they did it.

Today's working class families have one or two children because they can't afford to feed or clothe more than that, and in most cases, it takes two incomes to raise two kids. You keep pretending that public policy doesn't affect society in general but this is a clear case where it does. Large families are expensive. Republicans keep preaching "fiscal responsibility" but the poor are far more fiscally responsible than Republicans. They don't have as many children, and they have 80% of all abortions.

You want more white people, it's not going to happen. Since you have no family to care for you in your old age, Ray, you better learn to like brown people, because that's who's going to be looking after your sorry old ass in the nursing home.
Truck driving jobs are a long way from being eliminated. First off, we can't even get a self-driving car just yet. Even when we do, trucks will still be 40 or 50 years behind that. The test models only go straight. They cannot make turns, and will never be able to drive in the city, unhook doubles or triples, or back into docks. Furthermore a licensed driver would have to be in those trucks while in operation. Then there is the insurance issue.......

I only posted one job of the hundreds of thousands out there. The construction trade is suffering in certain areas. My father is a retied bricklayer. It pays well and my father did very good for himself. He's 87 years old and still getting his pension checks. My employer was looking for somebody to build him a brick mailbox. He couldn't find anybody; at least anybody reasonable.

So why do we have these jobs that can't be filled? Narcotics is the answer. Trying to find younger people today that can work and pass a drug screen is a real challenge for employers. But bringing in foreigners to do the job instead is not the answer. In fact, it's the Democrats that are fighting to keep that border unsecured. We get 90% of our heroin from that border. Thanks Democrats. Their solution is to keep letting in the drugs and the people.

Going to college is not the answer either because of the cost. My nephew is approaching his mid 30's and has a Masters. He's living with his mother in effort to eliminate college debt. Prior to his divorce, he and his wife were discussing a family they couldn't afford.

So to be middle-class in America today, don't worry about college. Get into a much cheaper trade school and learn how to work with your hands.
 

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Well I don't take demands from people, but I have some time to kill before shopping.

Democrats are trying desperately to eliminate white people; not in a genocidal way, but a political way.

You see every other group of people outside of whites votes a majority Democrat. This interferes with their long-term goal of making this country a single-party government. To do that, they need to make whites a minority for the first time in history.
Yes, white people are pretty dumb for voting Republican and watching the one percent dismantle your middle class lifestyle.

Brainwashing works well for the Democrats. It's why they use it and why you believe the Republicans are a party of hate. It's why you hate Trump so much. The country has never done better especially when it comes to minorities and women; breaking employment records and increasing household income. Reducing government dependency and taxation for all levels of income earners. Business confidence at it's highest level, and record breaking levels for small business owners. So in spite of all the great things Trump has done for this country, here is why you still hate him:
Trump hasn't done jack shit except inherit a good situation... which come to think of it is how he's gotten by in life.
You are one delusional drone


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I love these illegal voting charges.
It the trumpies had just a few brains they would realise voting is the last thing an illegal would do.

The very last thing.

Poll: 13% of Illegal Aliens ADMIT They Vote - California Political Review
1 in 10 omg.
Catastrophic
How many of us white rubes don't vote?
60%?
Yes, it is catastrophic. Our country is going downhill because the Democrats are so desperate to make this a single-party country and we are fighting like hell to stop it. They love illegals ruining this country for the power. They could care less about it's future or our children's. It's the liberals who make the argument that every vote is precious when they debate Voter-ID and bring up some anomaly of a person with no birth certificate. I guess every vote is precious only when it serves their political agenda. Illegals taking away votes from Americans? They're fine with that.
 

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Ray today's workforce is the most technologically advanced most productive workforce we have ever seen. American kids don't dream of laying bricks. As far as college, I would have NEVER dreamed of even one of my kids NOT getting a college degree. It was mandatory. NO other options. They had NO choice. Graduate high school there were NO other options to even consider. All four have degrees and are making nice money. So, college is still a great way to go.
 

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I love these illegal voting charges.
It the trumpies had just a few brains they would realise voting is the last thing an illegal would do.

The very last thing.

Poll: 13% of Illegal Aliens ADMIT They Vote - California Political Review
Their sources are The Daily Signal and the Heritage Foundation. Neither are reliable.
Learn how to click hyperlinks. The study came from the professors at the Old Dominion college.
 

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Trying to find workers isn't hard if the company is reputable. Bad companies don't attract workers because if they struggle they aren't worth working ng for.
 

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Ray today's workforce is the most technologically advanced most productive workforce we have ever seen. American kids don't dream of laying bricks. As far as college, I would have NEVER dreamed of even one of my kids NOT getting a college degree. It was mandatory. NO other options. They had NO choice. Graduate high school there were NO other options to even consider. All four have degrees and are making nice money. So, college is still a great way to go.
It's not the idea careers that require college don't pay well, it's the debt you incur by going there and how many years or decades it's going to take you to pay it off and break even.
 

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I paid their way plus they received scholarships. They graduated debt free...except my daughter....but as a practicing pediatrician she paid her debt fast. The jobs Americans won't do need a pay increase to get them filled. Doubling the wage might do it.
 

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A party that supports racial discrimination against whites, is supported by millions of whites ? Whaaat ? "I don't believe it" is what millions of people in other countries say. Here in America, though, we know it to be true. It (Affirmative Action) was formally and openly stated in the 2004 and 2008 platforms of the Democratic party.

2004 >> "the party "support affirmative action to redress discrimination and to achieve the diversity from which all Americans benefit."

2008 >> ""We support affirmative action, including in federal contracting and higher education, to make sure that those locked out of the doors of opportunity will be able to walk through those doors in the future"

The words "Affirmative Action" are not mentioned in the National Democratic Party platforms of 2012 and 2016, however the description of it, with goals to achieve diversity are mentioned. Seems like Democrats are becoming rather defensive about the idea of racially discriminating in order to stop racially discriminating.

There's an obvious reason why Democrats have removed the words "affirmative action" from their national platforms. Overwhelmingly, the American people oppose the concept. Almost two-thirds of Americans disagree with the June 2016 Supreme Court ruling on affirmative action, that allows public colleges to use race as a factor in their admissions decisions.

According to a Gallup poll conducted over June 29 through July 2, 2016, 70 percent of Americans say merit should be the only factor in college admissions. That number has stayed relatively stable over the last 12 years.

Poll finds surprising American opinions on affirmative action

In California, Democrats HAVE used the words Affirmative Action in their state platform >> "California Democrats will > Encourage, support and defend voluntary, and mandatory affirmative action measures aimed at enhancing equality in employment, education, and business opportunities;"

So with all this discrimination where non-whites are the beneficiaries, and whites are the victims, why do white Democrats support it ? Does Nancy Pelosi think it's OK for her many sons, daughters, and grandkids to be victims of this racist discrimination, when applying for college, for college financial aid, job hiring, job promotions, business loans, etc, ?

Simple. Most Caucasian leftists are guilt ridden over their own achievement and success which brings on self loathing.
They also have this undying need to not only save the world but also to save people from themselves.

If right wingers didn't lie about the left, they'd have nothing to say.

We have a self-admitted failure who votes for Trump because of his life has been ruined by AA, and those who pat him on the head and say "This is why we need a wall", and several self-admitted successful leftists who are proud of their achievements and what it took to get them there, and this idiot tells us we're "consumed with self-hatred and guilt".

The only people I want to save the world from are "conservatives" who complain that their freedom to discriminate against gays, get first priority on ALL jobs regardless of the skills and qualifications of the other people who apply, is being compromised. Who tell me what that should I get pregnant, I must accept the "consequences" of my actions since there is nothing morally acceptable to them but to force women to have babies they cannot afford and don't want, but who provide no income or supports to help them do so. Who tell women that their employer gets to decide whether or not their birth control is covered by the health insurance plan.

I mean how much more controlling of everything in our lives that truly matters can Democrats possibly be than that?
There are plenty of places that are leftist where you won't find any Republicans. There is China, Cuba, North Korea, Venezuela......

Why change this place into one of those? Move!
 

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I paid their way plus they received scholarships. They graduated debt free...except my daughter....but as a practicing pediatrician she paid her debt fast. The jobs Americans won't do need a pay increase to get them filled. Doubling the wage might do it.


What wage?
 

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A party that supports racial discrimination against whites, is supported by millions of whites ? Whaaat ? "I don't believe it" is what millions of people in other countries say. Here in America, though, we know it to be true. It (Affirmative Action) was formally and openly stated in the 2004 and 2008 platforms of the Democratic party.

2004 >> "the party "support affirmative action to redress discrimination and to achieve the diversity from which all Americans benefit."

2008 >> ""We support affirmative action, including in federal contracting and higher education, to make sure that those locked out of the doors of opportunity will be able to walk through those doors in the future"

The words "Affirmative Action" are not mentioned in the National Democratic Party platforms of 2012 and 2016, however the description of it, with goals to achieve diversity are mentioned. Seems like Democrats are becoming rather defensive about the idea of racially discriminating in order to stop racially discriminating.

There's an obvious reason why Democrats have removed the words "affirmative action" from their national platforms. Overwhelmingly, the American people oppose the concept. Almost two-thirds of Americans disagree with the June 2016 Supreme Court ruling on affirmative action, that allows public colleges to use race as a factor in their admissions decisions.

According to a Gallup poll conducted over June 29 through July 2, 2016, 70 percent of Americans say merit should be the only factor in college admissions. That number has stayed relatively stable over the last 12 years.

Poll finds surprising American opinions on affirmative action

In California, Democrats HAVE used the words Affirmative Action in their state platform >> "California Democrats will > Encourage, support and defend voluntary, and mandatory affirmative action measures aimed at enhancing equality in employment, education, and business opportunities;"

So with all this discrimination where non-whites are the beneficiaries, and whites are the victims, why do white Democrats support it ? Does Nancy Pelosi think it's OK for her many sons, daughters, and grandkids to be victims of this racist discrimination, when applying for college, for college financial aid, job hiring, job promotions, business loans, etc, ?

Simple. Most Caucasian leftists are guilt ridden over their own achievement and success which brings on self loathing.
They also have this undying need to not only save the world but also to save people from themselves.

If right wingers didn't lie about the left, they'd have nothing to say.

We have a self-admitted failure who votes for Trump because of his life has been ruined by AA, and those who pat him on the head and say "This is why we need a wall", and several self-admitted successful leftists who are proud of their achievements and what it took to get them there, and this idiot tells us we're "consumed with self-hatred and guilt".

The only people I want to save the world from are "conservatives" who complain that their freedom to discriminate against gays, get first priority on ALL jobs regardless of the skills and qualifications of the other people who apply, is being compromised. Who tell me what that should I get pregnant, I must accept the "consequences" of my actions since there is nothing morally acceptable to them but to force women to have babies they cannot afford and don't want, but who provide no income or supports to help them do so. Who tell women that their employer gets to decide whether or not their birth control is covered by the health insurance plan.

I mean how much more controlling of everything in our lives that truly matters can Democrats possibly be than that?
There are plenty of places that are leftist where you won't find any Republicans. There is China, Cuba, North Korea, Venezuela......

Why change this place into one of those? Move!
Actually, none of those countries are leftist. They are all right wing authoritarian dictatorships.
 

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A party that supports racial discrimination against whites, is supported by millions of whites ? Whaaat ? "I don't believe it" is what millions of people in other countries say. Here in America, though, we know it to be true. It (Affirmative Action) was formally and openly stated in the 2004 and 2008 platforms of the Democratic party.

2004 >> "the party "support affirmative action to redress discrimination and to achieve the diversity from which all Americans benefit."

2008 >> ""We support affirmative action, including in federal contracting and higher education, to make sure that those locked out of the doors of opportunity will be able to walk through those doors in the future"

The words "Affirmative Action" are not mentioned in the National Democratic Party platforms of 2012 and 2016, however the description of it, with goals to achieve diversity are mentioned. Seems like Democrats are becoming rather defensive about the idea of racially discriminating in order to stop racially discriminating.

There's an obvious reason why Democrats have removed the words "affirmative action" from their national platforms. Overwhelmingly, the American people oppose the concept. Almost two-thirds of Americans disagree with the June 2016 Supreme Court ruling on affirmative action, that allows public colleges to use race as a factor in their admissions decisions.

According to a Gallup poll conducted over June 29 through July 2, 2016, 70 percent of Americans say merit should be the only factor in college admissions. That number has stayed relatively stable over the last 12 years.

Poll finds surprising American opinions on affirmative action

In California, Democrats HAVE used the words Affirmative Action in their state platform >> "California Democrats will > Encourage, support and defend voluntary, and mandatory affirmative action measures aimed at enhancing equality in employment, education, and business opportunities;"

So with all this discrimination where non-whites are the beneficiaries, and whites are the victims, why do white Democrats support it ? Does Nancy Pelosi think it's OK for her many sons, daughters, and grandkids to be victims of this racist discrimination, when applying for college, for college financial aid, job hiring, job promotions, business loans, etc, ?

Simple. Most Caucasian leftists are guilt ridden over their own achievement and success which brings on self loathing.
They also have this undying need to not only save the world but also to save people from themselves.

If right wingers didn't lie about the left, they'd have nothing to say.

We have a self-admitted failure who votes for Trump because of his life has been ruined by AA, and those who pat him on the head and say "This is why we need a wall", and several self-admitted successful leftists who are proud of their achievements and what it took to get them there, and this idiot tells us we're "consumed with self-hatred and guilt".

The only people I want to save the world from are "conservatives" who complain that their freedom to discriminate against gays, get first priority on ALL jobs regardless of the skills and qualifications of the other people who apply, is being compromised. Who tell me what that should I get pregnant, I must accept the "consequences" of my actions since there is nothing morally acceptable to them but to force women to have babies they cannot afford and don't want, but who provide no income or supports to help them do so. Who tell women that their employer gets to decide whether or not their birth control is covered by the health insurance plan.

I mean how much more controlling of everything in our lives that truly matters can Democrats possibly be than that?
There are plenty of places that are leftist where you won't find any Republicans. There is China, Cuba, North Korea, Venezuela......

Why change this place into one of those? Move!
Actually, none of those countries are leftist. They are all right wing authoritarian dictatorships.
If you go any further left of the Democrat party, you have dictatorships, Communism and or Socialism.
 

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