CDZ How Can Mail-in Ballots Be Made Secure?

[Likkmee]

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[2aguy]

I think this is an interesting idea, sort of a puzzle kind of thing.

Andrew Yang suggested a block chain scheme for voting, but that penalizes those without internet access, so it wouldnt be Constitutional on those grounds, I think.

So I got my wife to spitball some ideas and here is what we came up with:

1) Because of the problem with ballot printing/forgery vulnerabilities the ballot would have to be requested by a resident of the state or municipality to show that they are a real voter. They would also list any adult residents that might live at the same address. Any application that has more than 6 adults living there would flag the ballot request for a phone follow up by the mail-in poll worker.

2) The information would be used to generate a seven digit confirmation code that would be sent either by registered mail or by email, but separate from the ballot itself.

3) When the ballot arrives, the fields are filled in on a bubble scan sheet with a blue impression carbon copy with it. The voter keeps the carbon copy. The voter also enters their confirmation code with the ballot.

4) At the precinct mail-in voting center, the confirmation code is checked as well as the count of ballots from that address. Screening is done well before vote day.

5) if there are any questions about the vote, the voter is contacted and asked to refill a second ballot with the same information, but a new confirmation code is sent.


I dont see how this can be subject to fraud or counterfeiting if the workers are honest and diligent.

How about instead of going through all those hoops ...... we just vote in person except for the very few who can't? The ability to cheat with massive mail in voting is an actual threat to the system....and shouldn't be allowed.

 

[2aguy]

I think this is an interesting idea, sort of a puzzle kind of thing.

Andrew Yang suggested a block chain scheme for voting, but that penalizes those without internet access, so it wouldnt be Constitutional on those grounds, I think.

So I got my wife to spitball some ideas and here is what we came up with:

1) Because of the problem with ballot printing/forgery vulnerabilities the ballot would have to be requested by a resident of the state or municipality to show that they are a real voter. They would also list any adult residents that might live at the same address. Any application that has more than 6 adults living there would flag the ballot request for a phone follow up by the mail-in poll worker.

2) The information would be used to generate a seven digit confirmation code that would be sent either by registered mail or by email, but separate from the ballot itself.

3) When the ballot arrives, the fields are filled in on a bubble scan sheet with a blue impression carbon copy with it. The voter keeps the carbon copy. The voter also enters their confirmation code with the ballot.

4) At the precinct mail-in voting center, the confirmation code is checked as well as the count of ballots from that address. Screening is done well before vote day.

5) if there are any questions about the vote, the voter is contacted and asked to refill a second ballot with the same information, but a new confirmation code is sent.


I dont see how this can be subject to fraud or counterfeiting if the workers are honest and diligent.

you can NEVER secure a mail in vote,,,vote in person is as close as you can get to secure,,,

not to mention mail in vote in not secret and violates voting rights as well as leaves you in danger of retribution for voting for the wrong person,,,

Yep........I heard that the political party of the mail in vote is on the envelope ...is this true? Can anyone confirm that? Keep in mind, the democrat party has a lock on the federal bureacracy, so voter fraud isn't just stacking the deck with democrat party votes, it is getting rid of Republican mail in votes too...

 

[2aguy]

every person receiving them should have a unique code on the ballot and have to verify their identity by 2 step authentication.

Who the person actually votes for need not be tracked to preserve anonymity

And then they go to heavily republican counties...and throw out those envelopes...figuring sure, they may get rid of democrat votes, but the majority of votes thrown out will be republican...

 

[2aguy]

People have been voting by mail for about a century. It's quite secure.

Wrong......we aren't talking about a minority of people who can't actually vote in person.....the democrat party wants everyone to vote by mail, you can't secure that.

 

[2aguy]

People have been voting by mail for about a century. It's quite secure.

Wrong......we aren't talking about a minority of people who can't actually vote in person.....the democrat party wants everyone to vote by mail, you can't secure that.

Let me guess; you're scared of this too.

You're afraid of a lot of things.

As for the Democratic Party, as far as I know, they want everyone to be able to vote by mail if they choose. Freedom of choice is an American value. What's your value?

Nope....... election integrity is put in danger with mail in voting. When the envelopes of Republican counties and postal codes end up in incinerators and dead people send in envelopes for the democrat party......then a fascist like you will be happy.

 

[2aguy]

I think this is an interesting idea, sort of a puzzle kind of thing.

Andrew Yang suggested a block chain scheme for voting, but that penalizes those without internet access, so it wouldnt be Constitutional on those grounds, I think.

So I got my wife to spitball some ideas and here is what we came up with:

1) Because of the problem with ballot printing/forgery vulnerabilities the ballot would have to be requested by a resident of the state or municipality to show that they are a real voter. They would also list any adult residents that might live at the same address. Any application that has more than 6 adults living there would flag the ballot request for a phone follow up by the mail-in poll worker.

2) The information would be used to generate a seven digit confirmation code that would be sent either by registered mail or by email, but separate from the ballot itself.

3) When the ballot arrives, the fields are filled in on a bubble scan sheet with a blue impression carbon copy with it. The voter keeps the carbon copy. The voter also enters their confirmation code with the ballot.

4) At the precinct mail-in voting center, the confirmation code is checked as well as the count of ballots from that address. Screening is done well before vote day.

5) if there are any questions about the vote, the voter is contacted and asked to refill a second ballot with the same information, but a new confirmation code is sent.


I dont see how this can be subject to fraud or counterfeiting if the workers are honest and diligent.

Back when al gore tried to steal the election.....the ballot recounts had been done in the open in front of the press.....when it came time to count the votes from counties that had heavy Cuban populations...all of a sudden the democrat party counters decided they wanted to count those votes behind closed doors....that is when you saw Republicans protesting...........

So you have a republican county....or postal code.....and all of a sudden, those envelopes disappear .......... never to be seen again...with the knowledge from the democrat party that sure, some democrat votes in red counties will be lost too...but getting rid of the majority of envelopes from republican counties and postal codes will be worth it....

Sorry...nope....vote by mail is corrupt and evil.

 

[wamose]

There will always be a chain of custody issue with mail-in ballots/voting.

None of it can be trusted.

The use of checksums and separate routes of delivery can alleviate much of that.

No.It could not. What we need is PROVEN ID's for voting. No ID.No vote. And all Ballots in English only.

That's absolutely true but fair and accurate voting is what Democrats have been fighting against for years. They need their illegal voter constituency. This whole issue has nothing to do with voter suppression and everything to do with Democrats ability to manipulate voting.

 

[candycorn]

People have been voting by mail for about a century. It's quite secure.

Wrong......we aren't talking about a minority of people who can't actually vote in person.....the democrat party wants everyone to vote by mail, you can't secure that.

Let me guess; you're scared of this too.

You're afraid of a lot of things.

As for the Democratic Party, as far as I know, they want everyone to be able to vote by mail if they choose. Freedom of choice is an American value. What's your value?

Nope....... election integrity is put in danger with mail in voting. When the envelopes of Republican counties and postal codes end up in incinerators and dead people send in envelopes for the democrat party......then a fascist like you will be happy.

People have been voting by mail for about 100 years. Few if any ever end up in incinerators. Stop lying.

PS: Republicans can vote in person and avoid having the incinerator happen to their ballots, right?

 

[Meister]

Some of the primary races are still being counted from the mail-in ballots. so there's that
There have been some major screw ups using the mail-in ballots.

There's nothing wrong with absentee ballots as there are safe guards in place.
But, just blanketing addresses with ballots just opens the door for an illegitimate election.

 

[San Souci]

There will always be a chain of custody issue with mail-in ballots/voting.

None of it can be trusted.

The use of checksums and separate routes of delivery can alleviate much of that.

No.It could not. What we need is PROVEN ID's for voting. No ID.No vote. And all Ballots in English only.

That's absolutely true but fair and accurate voting is what Democrats have been fighting against for years. They need their illegal voter constituency. This whole issue has nothing to do with voter suppression and everything to do with Democrats ability to manipulate voting.

Which they always do. Democrats always cheat. And lie. And use violence. They are Bolsheviks.

 

[Porthos]

There is a code on mail in ballots

But is that code matched to the person casting the ballot? Does the person have to verify his identity and eligibility to vote?

There needs to be a code for the ballot that is unique and registered on a database run by the state, plus a separate code for the voter that is filled in with the ballot to confirm they are the right person voting.

The voters code should be some kind of checksum based on their information so it is unique.

Says the guy who has never had a mail in ballot or used one or seen them work, like I have in my state for 10 years.
You need to keep this conspiracy going so you can complain when trump gets blown out and the secret service escorts him out of the White House in January. boo whooo.

 

[sartre play]

Mail in voting been going on for ever (US MILLITARY over seas ) Just one more ploy to disadvantage voting.

 

[Obiwan]

Mail in voting been going on for ever (US MILLITARY over seas ) Just one more ploy to disadvantage voting.

And Al Gore tried to have the military vote thrown out...

Go figure...

TEAM AL DEFENDS MILITARY-BALLOT CHALLENGE

Al Gore’s team took a hard line on Florida military overseas ballots yesterday and refused to withdraw Democratic challenges that got the votes of hundreds of U.S. troops tossed out – m…

nypost.com

 

[Daryl Hunt]

I think this is an interesting idea, sort of a puzzle kind of thing.

Andrew Yang suggested a block chain scheme for voting, but that penalizes those without internet access, so it wouldnt be Constitutional on those grounds, I think.

So I got my wife to spitball some ideas and here is what we came up with:

1) Because of the problem with ballot printing/forgery vulnerabilities the ballot would have to be requested by a resident of the state or municipality to show that they are a real voter. They would also list any adult residents that might live at the same address. Any application that has more than 6 adults living there would flag the ballot request for a phone follow up by the mail-in poll worker.

2) The information would be used to generate a seven digit confirmation code that would be sent either by registered mail or by email, but separate from the ballot itself.

3) When the ballot arrives, the fields are filled in on a bubble scan sheet with a blue impression carbon copy with it. The voter keeps the carbon copy. The voter also enters their confirmation code with the ballot.

4) At the precinct mail-in voting center, the confirmation code is checked as well as the count of ballots from that address. Screening is done well before vote day.

5) if there are any questions about the vote, the voter is contacted and asked to refill a second ballot with the same information, but a new confirmation code is sent.


I dont see how this can be subject to fraud or counterfeiting if the workers are honest and diligent.

There is no way to 100% ensure that a ballot would not be tampered with. You answered your own question when you said “...If the workers are honest and diligent.”

And there is no way to insure that an in person vote can't be compromised either. The games that are played to influence the vote is rampant. I don't think I need to go over the methods since we are all very much aware of them. One is not anymore secure or fair than the other when you factor in everything.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

There will always be a chain of custody issue with mail-in ballots/voting.

None of it can be trusted.

The use of checksums and separate routes of delivery can alleviate much of that.

No.It could not. What we need is PROVEN ID's for voting. No ID.No vote. And all Ballots in English only.

That's absolutely true but fair and accurate voting is what Democrats have been fighting against for years. They need their illegal voter constituency. This whole issue has nothing to do with voter suppression and everything to do with Democrats ability to manipulate voting.

And the Republicans are pretty successful in closing down polling areas in Democratic strongholds and making sure the ones available to the Dems have long lines where it takes hours to vote. If that doesn't work, they start shutting down specific polling places for reasons like Machine breakdowns or lack of poll workers.

 

[wamose]

Not only is mail in voting easily corruptible but it's not secret either. The people checking your ballot signature will also know who you voted for. That's bullshit. I don't even want people outside the polls handing out cards. Just leave us the fuck alone and let us vote privately. No mail in bullshit.

 

[San Souci]

There will always be a chain of custody issue with mail-in ballots/voting.

None of it can be trusted.

The use of checksums and separate routes of delivery can alleviate much of that.

No.It could not. What we need is PROVEN ID's for voting. No ID.No vote. And all Ballots in English only.

That's absolutely true but fair and accurate voting is what Democrats have been fighting against for years. They need their illegal voter constituency. This whole issue has nothing to do with voter suppression and everything to do with Democrats ability to manipulate voting.

And the Republicans are pretty successful in closing down polling areas in Democratic strongholds and making sure the ones available to the Dems have long lines where it takes hours to vote. If that doesn't work, they start shutting down specific polling places for reasons like Machine breakdowns or lack of poll workers.

Yeah. Sure. And Repubs shove granny over a cliff. I heard that before. Here is the truth. Anyone STUPID enough not to be able to find a polling place is to stupid to vote.

 

[San Souci]

There will always be a chain of custody issue with mail-in ballots/voting.

None of it can be trusted.

The use of checksums and separate routes of delivery can alleviate much of that.

In fact, they can't.

There is ONLY one solution. The vote is cast in such a manner that no other living soul can touch it and is tallied without human intervention.

That is the ONLY trustworthy means.

And they all must be APPLIED for. Not sent out. All "Harvested" ballots should be burned.

 

[MarathonMike]

Early ballots and absentee ballots have always been secure. They are generated specifically for one voter. That is totally different than the generic ballots being pushed by the Democrats.