Houston aquarium slaying was latest killing by a defendant out on bond

[Billy_Kinetta]

Texas Gov. Greg Abbott vows to make bail bond reform an 'emergency item' on his agenda after a recent report about crimes by released defendants​

Great. How about just never let them out?

Houston aquarium slaying was latest killing by a defendant out on bond: reports

 

[KissMy]

Clinton / Biden 3 Strikes Law was the Best at Lowering Crime

 

[freyasman]

Only reason it ain't worse is that Texans shoot back.

 

[shockedcanadian]

Clinton / Biden 3 Strikes Law was the Best at Lowering Crime

That as an awful law and an affront to common sense, balanced approach to sentencing. It's one that puzzles me and I don't even understand how conservatives could support it. Now I don't understand the law in its entirety, but, I do think it has to be excessive in many cases.

How many guys are sitting in prison for life because of a dirty cop? A former lying gf? A minor crime in the heat of passion or in ones youth?

The punishment must fit the crime, I don't even think the victims would want their attacker to be in prison for ever. Punished, yes, but not eliminated from society.

This is an example directly from the ACLU website (and I'm not condoning them, it came up when I googled it). I'm all for Law and Order, but not a lazy approach to sentencing, justice or confronting crime.

10 Reasons to Oppose "3 Strikes, You're Out" | American Civil Liberties Union

"An 18-year old high school senior pushes a classmate down to steal his Michael Jordan $150 sneakers -- Strike One; he gets out of jail and shoplifts a jacket from the Bon Marche, pushing aside the clerk as he runs out of the store -- Strik e Two; he gets out of jail, straightens out, and nine years later gets in a fight in a bar and intentionally hits someone, breaking his nose -- criminal behavior, to be sure, but hardly the crime of the century, yet it is Strike Three. He is sent to prison for the rest of his life."

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

Texas Gov. Greg Abbott vows to make bail bond reform an 'emergency item' on his agenda after a recent report about crimes by released defendants​

Great. How about just never let them out?

Houston aquarium slaying was latest killing by a defendant out on bond: reports

How about execute, then there arent repeat offenders...

 

[miketx]

The punishment must fit the crime, I don't even think the victims would want their attacker to be in prison for ever. Punished, yes, but not eliminated from society.

Wrong. At least the ones with any sense want them locked up.

 

[freyasman]

Texas Gov. Greg Abbott vows to make bail bond reform an 'emergency item' on his agenda after a recent report about crimes by released defendants​

Great. How about just never let them out?

Houston aquarium slaying was latest killing by a defendant out on bond: reports

How about execute, then there arent repeat offenders...

We don't need the state for that, we got a DIY approach going on around here.

 

[freyasman]

Most of what's going on are juggers and hijackers...... IOW, armed robbers.
Let me give ya'll a little insight into what armed robbers are actually like;

Street robberies and you - The Basics - AR15.COM

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From the link;
"Background

First, my info. I worked in the street of one of America's most violent, dangerous cities for 15 years. I usually worked in the worst part of that city. I spent 15 years in patrol. I liked patrol. It was wild. Most of the time I worked in areas covered in ghetto. By that I mean large housing projects combined with run down slum housing. I have worked all shifts. Later I became an investigator including a robbery investigator. I have spent countless hours in interrogation rooms talking to hold up men. I know them. I am still an investigator but have quit playing the Robbery game because my family was starting to forget what I looked like.

The Enemy

Some may object to me calling hold up men "the enemy". You can call them whatever you like. I can assure you however they are as deadly an enemy as you will find anywhere but the battlefield. Even many soldiers probably lack the viciousness and utter disregard for life most hold up men possess.

No one wakes up in the morning one day and decides to become an armed robber. It is a gradual process that requires some experience and desensitizing. Before a man will pick up a gun and threaten to kill people who have done him no harm in order to get their usually meager possessions he has to get comfortable with some things.

He has to get used to seeing others as objects for him to exploit. He has to accept he may be killed while robbing. He has to accept the felony conviction for Robbery will haunt him all his life. He has to accept he may need to kill a completely innocent person to get away with his crime.

This is a process that starts with stealing candy at the corner store as a child. It progresses through bigger property crimes that may also involve violence. But one day G gets tired of selling his stolen property for nothing and decides it would be better to steal cash. Cut out all that tiresome sales stuff.


Keep in mind many petty thieves, auto burglars, residential and commercial burglars, paper thieves, and hustlers will get to that point and decide not to become armed robbers. Most will. It is a special group of outliers who decide threatening to kill people for a few dollars is the way to go.

Once a man starts armed robbing he has crossed a line most won't. Don't forget that when you are looking these bastards in the eye. Their decision to kill you is already made. Your life means nothing to him. Only his does. His sole motivation for not killing you is he doesn't want a murder case. He has already accepted he may pick one up though.

We hunt hold up men around the clock once they are identified. We send teams of fire breathing fence jumper/door kickers to find them. We will bring their mother to the office and convince her she is going to jail if we don't have Junior in our office in an hour. We have her call her son crying hysterically for him to turn himself in before she is arrested and held without bond as a material witness and her home seized for harboring him. Most of the time they won't. Fuck their own momma.

We will hit all Juniors friends and family's houses. We make it so no one will harbor him. He is so hot no one will let him in their house or even talk on the phone with him. We put money on him so he knows he is right to be betrayed and set up. We do this because of one thing.

That thing is they WILL kill someone if they keep robbing. That is why the city is willing to pay all the overtime. They don't want the murders. Think about that when you see Junior coming. The more robberies he does the closer he is to killing someone. Maybe you.

The guys who hit you on the street are gang members. They are Gangster Disciples, Vice Lords, Crips, Sureonos, many others. They do not see themselves as part of society. The street is all they know. They don't expect to live long or stay out of prison. They take a delight in your fear and suffering. They are warped individuals for the most part. They can be extremely dangerous.

One time we were locking up a hold up man and having a conversation about how they target their victims. I was saying they pick easy ones, another guy was saying they preferred easy ones but would take anybody.

I pointed out a uniform Officer there was an NFL size guy to that hold up man. Frankly the dude was a monster. I asked hold up man if he would rob him. He said "If I needed the money".





You

Chances are good you are a law abiding person except for maybe a little light weed smoking and maybe driving a little drunk every once in a while. Most of your life you have been taught to be nice and don't point guns at people. You are the exact opposite of your enemy who was taught just the opposite. Remember a lot of street life is like prison life. Who's the man is everything. Violence is the currency of the street.

You do not possess total disregard for the lives of others and do not want to kill anyone. You are concerned about the ramifications of shooting someone. Your family, your possessions and finances on the line. Your enemy has none of these concerns.

The laws that keep you from carrying your gun in bars or where ever mean nothing to your enemy. Your reluctance to shoot someone works to is advantage. His greater experience in street violence and the element of surprise is on his side.

Everyone should call their local FBI office and get a copy of Law Enforcement Officers Killed and Assaulted. When it first came out it was ground breaking because it demonstrated to academics and other elites what street police knew all along. What did it show in interviews with cop killers? Nice guys finish dead. That's right. Most of those offenders commented that the Officer they killed set himself up to be killed because of reluctance to use force early in the encounter.

You can probably find it on line now. A lot of the victim Officers were a lot like a lot of other people, normal people. They were the opposite of their enemy.

Am I advocating becoming the enemy? No. I am saying the person who is robbing you has certain traits, attitudes, and background. That is all."




Follow the link and read the whole thing.