House Democrats are “Bringing Out the Big Guns” to Allow Illegal Aliens to Vote in 2024 Presidential Election

[ShahdagMountains]

Yeah, but it's not funny.

Scruffy happens to know a whole lot about this particular topic.

In 2006 the CA prison population was something like 175,000, now it's down to about 130,000 and that's only because federal judges demanded they alleviate the overcrowding. Even at 130k they're still at 140% of capacity, so they can't take anyone new - but they have to, so what they do is release the tame ones early and slough off the "almost tame" ones to rehabs. There's a lock down rehabs just miles from my house, they have 73 beds and 71 of them hold prisoners. And there's HUNDREDS of these places in the county, there's about 20 of em in a 10 mile radius from our house. And don't even start me on the youth facilities, that's where they send all the "young" gang bangers. Everyone around here knows where to go if they want to score dope at midnight with no connections. Then we have a small subset of these people that are tasked with managing other outpatients, so to speak. I personally know of one running a "shared living" house in LA, they have 14 prisoners sleeping in 3 rooms. It's par for the course for illegal gang bangers, they have weapons, drugs, the whole nine yards. They don't care, they get to out gang banging during the day, they only come back to crash. All they have to do is be there for bed check. Reality is very unlike a random Google report.

Should they build more prisons?

 

[Mac1958]

Exactly which part of that bill allows illegal aliens to vote?

Stephen Miller says so, so that's good enough for them.

These are Pavlov's Dogs. Just say certain things and they go into full rage mode.

 

[rightwinger]

In 2014, the academic journal Electoral Studies published a groundbreaking study by three scholars who estimated how frequently non-citizens were illegally voting. Based on data for the 2008 presidential and congressional elections, the study found that:

• “roughly one quarter of non-citizens” in the U.S. “were likely registered to vote.”
• “6.4% of non-citizens actually voted.”
• 81.8% of them “reported voting for Barack Obama.”
• illegal votes cast by non-citizens “likely” changed “important election outcomes” in favor of Democrats, “including Electoral College votes” and a “pivotal” U.S. Senate race that enabled Democrats to pass Obamacare.

The study’s voter registration rate was estimated with data from two key sources:

1. A national survey in which 14.8% of non-citizens admitted that they were registered to vote.
2. A database of registered voters that reveals what portion of the surveyed non-citizens “were in fact registered” even though “they claimed not to be registered.”

Impressive study


Yet, when Republicans go out and verify the citizenship of registered voters……..They can’t find any non citizens

 

[Hollie]

Impressive study


Yet, when Republicans go out and verify the citizenship of registered voters……..They can’t find any non citizens

Your cut and paste emoticons are even more impressive.

 

[Frankenstein]

Your boy Stephen Miller is lying, just like the man he serves, and the man you worship, Donald Trump.

Lying is all you people have, so it makes sense you'd say the same about Democrats.

Stop lying, liar.

Actually the democrats have been engaged in projection for some time, if you want to know what democrats are doing, look at what they claim republicans are doing IE, fascism.

 

[rightwinger]

Your cut and paste emoticons are even more impressive.

Noncitizen Voting Isn’t Affecting State or Federal Elections — Here’s Why

States have multiple systems in place to deter noncitizen voting. Those who violate the law face prison time and deportation.

www.brennancenter.org

 

[Hollie]

Impressive study


Yet, when Republicans go out and verify the citizenship of registered voters……..They can’t find any non citizens

Is attempting to think so painful for you that you quickly abandon all attempts?

Do non-citizens vote in U.S. elections?

In spite of substantial public controversy, very little reliable data exists concerning the frequency with which non-citizen immigrants participate in…

www.sciencedirect.com

Abstract​

In spite of substantial public controversy, very little reliable data exists concerning the frequency with which non-citizen immigrants participate in United States elections.

This study examines participation rates by non-citizens using a nationally representative sample that includes non-citizen immigrants. We find that some non-citizens participate in U.S. elections, and that this participation has been large enough to change meaningful election outcomes including Electoral College votes, and Congressional elections. Non-citizen votes likely gave Senate Democrats the pivotal 60th vote needed to overcome filibusters in order to pass health care reform and other Obama administration priorities in the 111th Congress.

 

[rightwinger]

Is attempting to think so painful for you that you quickly abandon all attempts?

Do non-citizens vote in U.S. elections?

In spite of substantial public controversy, very little reliable data exists concerning the frequency with which non-citizen immigrants participate in…

www.sciencedirect.com

Abstract​

In spite of substantial public controversy, very little reliable data exists concerning the frequency with which non-citizen immigrants participate in United States elections.

This study examines participation rates by non-citizens using a nationally representative sample that includes non-citizen immigrants. We find that some non-citizens participate in U.S. elections, and that this participation has been large enough to change meaningful election outcomes including Electoral College votes, and Congressional elections. Non-citizen votes likely gave Senate Democrats the pivotal 60th vote needed to overcome filibusters in order to pass health care reform and other Obama administration priorities in the 111th Congress.

Impressive

But is based on estimates and is not substantiated by illegals actually getting caught voting

With supposed millions of noncitizens voting….Republicans can’t actually find many.

 

[Hollie]

Impressive

But is based on estimates and is not substantiated by illegals actually getting caught voting

With supposed millions of noncitizens voting….Republicans can’t actually find many.

Your limitations are extensive .

From the link provided,

“The proportion of non-citizens who voted was less than fifteen percent, but significantly greater than zero. Similarly in 2010 we found that more than three percent of non-citizens reported voting.”

 

[rightwinger]

Is attempting to think so painful for you that you quickly abandon all attempts?

Do non-citizens vote in U.S. elections?

In spite of substantial public controversy, very little reliable data exists concerning the frequency with which non-citizen immigrants participate in…

www.sciencedirect.com

Abstract​

In spite of substantial public controversy, very little reliable data exists concerning the frequency with which non-citizen immigrants participate in United States elections.

This study examines participation rates by non-citizens using a nationally representative sample that includes non-citizen immigrants. We find that some non-citizens participate in U.S. elections, and that this participation has been large enough to change meaningful election outcomes including Electoral College votes, and Congressional elections. Non-citizen votes likely gave Senate Democrats the pivotal 60th vote needed to overcome filibusters in order to pass health care reform and other Obama administration priorities in the 111th Congress.

The 2008 and 2010 Cooperative Congressional Election Studies (CCES) were conducted by YouGov/Polimetrix of Palo Alto, CA as an internet-based survey using a sample selected to mirror the demographic characteristics of the U.S. population.

An internet survey?

 

[BULLDOG]

Your limitations are extensive .

From the link provided,

“The proportion of non-citizens who voted was less than fifteen percent, but significantly greater than zero. Similarly in 2010 we found that more than three percent of non-citizens reported voting.”

More than 3% of what representative sample?

 

[Hollie]

Impressive

But is based on estimates and is not substantiated by illegals actually getting caught voting

With supposed millions of noncitizens voting….Republicans can’t actually find many.

Obviously you don’t know that illegals are included in the census and that impacts apportionment.

Obviously, you don’t understand that concept so take a minute and do your own search. When you fail and decide to give up, let me know and I’ll lend an assist.

 

[Hollie]

More than 3% of what representative sample?

2010-2014 Cooperative Congressional Election Study Panel Survey - CCES Dataverse

Do I need to read it to you?

 

[Hollie]

So…650,000 and 200,000 respectively? Ballpark?

Could be. It could be more considering the near non-existent enforcement by the leftist Biden administration which has made a point to import and protect illegals.

 

[rightwinger]

Obviously you don’t know that illegals are included in the census and that impacts apportionment.

Obviously, you don’t understand that concept so take a minute and do your own search. When you fail and decide to give up, let me know and I’ll lend an assist.

The Constitution says persons not citizens
Don’t like it
Change it

 

[rightwinger]

Could be. It could be more considering the near non-existent enforcement by the leftist Biden administration which has made a point to import and protect illegals.

The Federal Government does not regulate elections. States do

So a Republican State like Texas and Arizona with large percentages of immigrants can pass laws to audit voter rolls to find non citizens voting

Thing is that they do
They don’t find many illegals voting

 

[debbiedowner]

Biden wasn't deporting anyone

How do you know?

 

[Resnic]

Regardless of political affiliation every single person should want ID to vote, they should be demanding it to ensure only Americans are voting, that everyone only votes once, no mistakes are made, it's fair, all to protect America itself and Americans.

If a politician or a government/state employee is against voter required identification they should be removed from office immediately. I don't care if you're the president or the lady at the DMV window if you say we shouldn't require identification to vote you should be fired immediately on the spot because that flies in the face of everything America is built on.

Voting is supposed to be a keystone holy institution in America and it should be treated as such. Voting is for each and every American, it isn't for the government or for politicians. It is for us.

 

[Moonglow]

Democrats say basically that the present checkbox on standard voter registration forms, promising cross-my-heart I am a citizen, is enough. Meantime the NY Post reports Thousands of Illegals Are Registering to Vote in Federal Elections.

Now why would the Peedoughcrats want to dig in on something so simple and reasonable as one-time, simple proof of citizenship?


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Are you an idiot or just stupid not to know federal law and how one must prove citizenship to vote?

 

[Moonglow]

Regardless of political affiliation every single person should want ID to vote, they should be demanding it to ensure only Americans are voting, that everyone only votes once, no mistakes are made, it's fair, all to protect America itself and Americans.

If a politician or a government/state employee is against voter required identification they should be removed from office immediately. I don't care if you're the president or the lady at the DMV window if you say we shouldn't require identification to vote you should be fired immediately on the spot because that flies in the face of everything America is built on.

Voting is supposed to be a keystone holy institution in America and it should be treated as such. Voting is for each and every American, it isn't for the government or for politicians. It is for us.

I have had to show an ID to vote since 1980, where is this mythical land where one doesn't have to prove citizenship without proper I.D.'s or forms?