Debate Now Honest Debate About Abortion: Rules Posted

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

marty, you were trying to make points for your side, then got tripped up.

Just be honest and open when you debate.

 

[martybegan]

This is fair. Its what you do with the opinion that has Republicans losing elections though.


This is fair.

The anger factor was with the unlimited abortion people, that is wearing out now that time has passed.

Just wait until another Gosnell pops up and can't be prosecuted because State like NY and CA have laws that allow abortion for any reason up until the second before birth.

 

[martybegan]

marty, you were trying to make points for your side, then got tripped up.

Just be honest and open when you debate.

No such thing happened. You guys can't function in a structured forum.

Well Zincwarrior can, but not you and Otto.

 

[Zincwarrior]

The anger factor was with the unlimited abortion people, that is wearing out now that time has passed.

Just wait until another Gosnell pops up and can't be prosecuted because State like NY and CA have laws that allow abortion for any reason up until the second before birth.

Yes, Gosnell was quite criminal and sleazy.

The difficulty with that argument is that, since Dobbs, whenever the issue who been put to a popular plebiscite, it loses badly, and these are typically conservative states. The Democrats are definitely pounding that in this election. But thats the political aspect of course.

 

[martybegan]

Yes, Gosnell was quite criminal and sleazy.

The difficulty with that argument is that, since Dobbs, whenever the issue who been put to a popular plebiscite, it loses badly, and these are typically conservative states. The Democrats are definitely pounding that in this election. But thats the political aspect of course.

Again due to the anger issue and the ballot timing for off cycle elections.

They will get less and less traction out of it when Trump comes out and says "leave it to the States"

 

[Zincwarrior]

Again due to the anger issue and the ballot timing for off cycle elections.

They will get less and less traction out of it when Trump comes out and says "leave it to the States"

Except of course, the state bans are a driving force. Living in one of those states, it will be interesting to see if it drives more women to the polls. I am not convinced either way.

Also, I must say I have enjoyed this thread, and politely discussing something for once. Its why I came to this board.

 

[martybegan]

Except of course, the state bans are a driving force. Living in one of those states, it will be interesting to see if it drives more women to the polls. I am not convinced either way.

Also, I must say I have enjoyed this thread, and politely discussing something for once. Its why I came to this board.

Florida is going to be the bellweather. They are getting a ballot proposal for no bans before the 3rd trimester.

Most people approve bans sometime during the second trimester.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Again due to the anger issue and the ballot timing for off cycle elections.

They will get less and less traction out of it when Trump comes out and says "leave it to the States"

and that will not help him with the hard-core Vance types

there are so many on the left who are not happy with "leave it to the states"

 

[martybegan]

and that will not help him with the hard-core Vance types

there are so many on the left who are not happy with "leave it to the states"

Echoing the idea above, if you aren't in Alabama, why care about abortions in Alabama?

 

[otto105]

Are you really going to keep going further and further back, or can you just admit both sides have done it?

And further admit it doesn't compare to chasing a speaker off a podium, or trying to crash a symposium to shut it down.

Didn’t you just state it only comes from the Left.

Under the orange convict incivility has reached new lows.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

... because we believe in women's reproductive rights everywhere.

 

[otto105]

Echoing the idea above, if you aren't in Alabama, why care about abortions in Alabama?

If you’re not gay, why do you care if others are.

 

[martybegan]

Didn’t you just state it only comes from the Left.

Under the orange convict incivility has reached new lows.

I'm saying the systemic and widespread attempts to silence opposing viewpoints comes from the left, and there are plenty of examples out there if you are willing to look.

 

[martybegan]

If you’re not gay, why do you care if others are.

You didn't answer the question.

And it isn't being gay, it's the forced acceptance, the indoctrination in public schools, the drugging and mutilating of kids, and until recently the ruining of people's businesses because they didn't want to take pictures or bake a cake.

 

[Robert W]

If you’re not gay, why do you care if others are.

Gay is the word selected by Democrats which is to lull us to sleep by acting as if homosexuals are merely happy people. They are gay only as a foolish term. Clinically they remain homosexuals. This means a human, man or woman, selects their own sex to engage in what they call sex. Homosexuals scientifically produce no off spring. When they have small kids with them, they adopted them. Adoption is fine but causing children to also be homosexual angers a lot of citizens.

 

[Zincwarrior]

Getting a bit offtrack here.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

You didn't answer the question.

And it isn't being gay, it's the forced acceptance, the indoctrination in public schools, the drugging and mutilating of kids, and until recently the ruining of people's businesses because they didn't want to take pictures or bake a cake.

Until you stop the nonsense above, no one can take you seriously.

 

[otto105]

I'm saying the systemic and widespread attempts to silence opposing viewpoints comes from the left, and there are plenty of examples out there if you are willing to look.

Post som, because we can all see the orange convict attempting to silence late night hosts like Jimmy Kimmel. Ron desantis attempting to silence Disney over gay people.

We see the maga attempt to sideline/silence subject matter expects on subjects like climate change and the affects of gun violence because the facts don’t back them.

 

[martybegan]

View attachment 981894 Until you stop the nonsense above, no one can take you seriously.

It's not nonsense. It's just opinions you can't deal with.

 

[Robert W]

Getting a bit offtrack here.

When society claims the acts by women where they terminate the life of their own child, at any stage of it's development is fine, that society is doomed to die. Politicians talk as if they are doctors of medicine. They are primarily lawyers I believe. Not all are lawyers, but they have an abundance of lawyers in their midst. Put more effort into saving the lives of the not born children and less into saving lives of convicted killers of humans. You will feel better at the end of the day.