Holocaust Denial: Nope

[gtopa1]

If there is only THE truth, why is there so much disagreement over what is going on about the border and the president?

Start a thread about it rather than trying to hijack this one.

My point is, she is wrong.

Truth? It depends on a persons point of view.

Sweet Sue is acting like an ignorant Demagogue. Not a whole lot different than a Hitler or Marx.

If she wants to understand the nature of "TRUTH," she needs to understand;

Epistemology

You need to understand Karl Popper so do the right thing and piss off. Your statement shows that you are frankly an ignorant jerk!

Greg

 

[SweetSue92]

And now the Jews want money form Poland, just like they want from the RCC, they have been after the release of Pope Pius X11 to be made public.

They pretty much got everything they are going to get from Germany (did any other country get anything) and their ads for IFCJ who does ads on the poor Jews from the holocaust has dried up. You can still see them on Fox cable news now and then.

Yet the US sends them 3.8 billion, that is billion bucks a year, a part of that might go towards abortions.

As I just posted. That you don't LIKE the Jews has no bearing on whether there were gas chambers in the death camps.

I apologize to everyone that Penny lives in Michigan.

I'm a Democrats and there are many Jews in the Democrats congress, since there are 0 in the Republican Senate and only 2 in the Republican House.

Please write those Dems and tell them you are sure there were no gas chambers in the Holocaust Penny

 

[gtopa1]

And now the Jews want money form Poland, just like they want from the RCC, they have been after the release of Pope Pius X11 to be made public.

They pretty much got everything they are going to get from Germany (did any other country get anything) and their ads for IFCJ who does ads on the poor Jews from the holocaust has dried up. You can still see them on Fox cable news now and then.

Yet the US sends them 3.8 billion, that is billion bucks a year, a part of that might go towards abortions.

As I just posted. That you don't LIKE the Jews has no bearing on whether there were gas chambers in the death camps.

I apologize to everyone that Penny lives in Michigan.

I'm a Democrats and there are many Jews in the Democrats congress, since there are 0 in the Republican Senate and only 2 in the Republican House.

Yes; you fit in perfectly with that Party. The KKK (social wing of the DemoKKKrat Party) hated Jews as well.



Greg

 

[TNHarley]

My point is, she is wrong. Truth? It depends on a persons point of view.

Did the Nazis engage in genocide against the Jews and murder 6 million of them in the process?

They murdered millions more but they never get talked about.
Why is that?

For my part I think I already answered this.

The Industrial Revolution nature of the killing is particularly horrifying. It's why the killing squads of the Holocaust get little play but the gas chambers get more. Something about feeding humans into those chambers and then the ovens is just pure horror to us....and the number of people who were part of the killing machine, and did nothing.

I was referring to people of other religions.

 

[TNHarley]

They murdered millions more but they never get talked about.
Why is that?

Sure it does. However, the topic of this thread is whether or not the Holocaust occurred.

Sure it does, what

 

[impuretrash]

My point is, she is wrong. Truth? It depends on a persons point of view.

Did the Nazis engage in genocide against the Jews and murder 6 million of them in the process?

They murdered millions more but they never get talked about.
Why is that?

For my part I think I already answered this.

The Industrial Revolution nature of the killing is particularly horrifying. It's why the killing squads of the Holocaust get little play but the gas chambers get more. Something about feeding humans into those chambers and then the ovens is just pure horror to us....and the number of people who were part of the killing machine, and did nothing.

I was referring to people of other religions.

I'd rather be gassed than burned, crucified or beheaded like muslims like to do to their enemies.

Even worse, chainsawed, skinned or boiled like Mexican cartels do to whoever pisses them off.

 

[Lysistrata]

The holocaust happened, it just wasnt that bad
Im part jew, so i can say that

Wtf? It just wasnt that bad?

Your cred just tanked on here

Lol the holocaust was horrible. I was just being my normal asshole self.
But it wasnt as bad conpared to many other incidents in recent history.
I have always wondered why the holocaust gets so much attention and not others.
People barely talk a Notbout the great leap forward and it was the biggest mass killing in history.

You are right on the Great Leap Forward that it was a totally disgusting event; I might also add that it was Socialism on steroids!! The actual death toll, however incredibly evil, was not the INTENT of the exercise. What was intended was that Collectivisation would lead to a New Dawn of WEALTH FOR THE PEOPLE!! Yes: many were murdered as well, but they were "enemies of the state"...which usually meant anyone who might oppose the power of the Party(Stalinism at its most putrid). . The really massive death toll came about because of the induced famine. But that is another story and involves the callous indifference of the Central Authority and their incompetent and corrupt cadres .

But that in no way diminishes the Holocaust. It was the deliberate murder of a racial group for several reasons to wit that the perpetrators considered their race to be inferior and a cause of their loss in WW1. True: Nazis also believed that others were also inferior and murdered them as well in massive numbers but they selected the Jews as particular scapegoats and nothing short of their complete annihilation would satisfy their revenge. The Nazis worked towards that end with disgusting efficiency.

Greg

Maybe that is because Judea (jews of the world) declared war on Germany in 1933.

Jews declared war on Germany? Are you nuts? The Jewish people did not have a centralized organization capable of declaring war on anyone.

Moreover, how would this justify the organized slaughter of men, women, and children who took no part in politics. Take this fact and chew on it: the nazis aimed to wipe out an entire religious group, declaring the members of this group somehow subhuman.

 

[Penelope]

And now the Jews want money form Poland, just like they want from the RCC, they have been after the release of Pope Pius X11 to be made public.

They pretty much got everything they are going to get from Germany (did any other country get anything) and their ads for IFCJ who does ads on the poor Jews from the holocaust has dried up. You can still see them on Fox cable news now and then.

Yet the US sends them 3.8 billion, that is billion bucks a year, a part of that might go towards abortions.

As I just posted. That you don't LIKE the Jews has no bearing on whether there were gas chambers in the death camps.

I apologize to everyone that Penny lives in Michigan.

I'm a Democrats and there are many Jews in the Democrats congress, since there are 0 in the Republican Senate and only 2 in the Republican House.

Please write those Dems and tell them you are sure there were no gas chambers in the Holocaust Penny

SweetSue 92, Is that the year you were born or graduated?

anyway, don't feel bad,

My husband very seldom wins a debate with me either.

But just so you know, anytime you call me a holocaust denier in another post, it will be off topic, and I will report you, as it derails the whole post.

 

[SweetSue92]

And now the Jews want money form Poland, just like they want from the RCC, they have been after the release of Pope Pius X11 to be made public.

They pretty much got everything they are going to get from Germany (did any other country get anything) and their ads for IFCJ who does ads on the poor Jews from the holocaust has dried up. You can still see them on Fox cable news now and then.

Yet the US sends them 3.8 billion, that is billion bucks a year, a part of that might go towards abortions.

As I just posted. That you don't LIKE the Jews has no bearing on whether there were gas chambers in the death camps.

I apologize to everyone that Penny lives in Michigan.

I'm a Democrats and there are many Jews in the Democrats congress, since there are 0 in the Republican Senate and only 2 in the Republican House.

Please write those Dems and tell them you are sure there were no gas chambers in the Holocaust Penny

SweetSue 92, Is that the year you were born or graduated?

anyway, don't feel bad,

My husband very seldom wins a debate with me either.

Penny we don't even have a debate going, I hope you realize. You are just running from your beliefs. You have stated you don't believe the Jews were ever in the gas chambers but you won't tell us WHY you believe this.

92 is the year I graduated college.

 

[SweetSue92]

The holocaust happened, it just wasnt that bad
Im part jew, so i can say that

Wtf? It just wasnt that bad?

Your cred just tanked on here

Lol the holocaust was horrible. I was just being my normal asshole self.
But it wasnt as bad conpared to many other incidents in recent history.
I have always wondered why the holocaust gets so much attention and not others.
People barely talk a Notbout the great leap forward and it was the biggest mass killing in history.

You are right on the Great Leap Forward that it was a totally disgusting event; I might also add that it was Socialism on steroids!! The actual death toll, however incredibly evil, was not the INTENT of the exercise. What was intended was that Collectivisation would lead to a New Dawn of WEALTH FOR THE PEOPLE!! Yes: many were murdered as well, but they were "enemies of the state"...which usually meant anyone who might oppose the power of the Party(Stalinism at its most putrid). . The really massive death toll came about because of the induced famine. But that is another story and involves the callous indifference of the Central Authority and their incompetent and corrupt cadres .

But that in no way diminishes the Holocaust. It was the deliberate murder of a racial group for several reasons to wit that the perpetrators considered their race to be inferior and a cause of their loss in WW1. True: Nazis also believed that others were also inferior and murdered them as well in massive numbers but they selected the Jews as particular scapegoats and nothing short of their complete annihilation would satisfy their revenge. The Nazis worked towards that end with disgusting efficiency.

Greg

Maybe that is because Judea (jews of the world) declared war on Germany in 1933.

Jews declared war on Germany? Are you nuts? The Jewish people did not have a centralized organization capable of declaring war on anyone.

Moreover, how would this justify the organized slaughter of men, women, and children who took no part in politics. Take this fact and chew on it: the nazis aimed to wipe out an entire religious group, declaring the members of this group somehow subhuman.

She has to believe these unbelievable things because someone got to her and made her hate a certain population of Jews.

Now the question is: who got to her.

 

[Penelope]

And now the Jews want money form Poland, just like they want from the RCC, they have been after the release of Pope Pius X11 to be made public.

They pretty much got everything they are going to get from Germany (did any other country get anything) and their ads for IFCJ who does ads on the poor Jews from the holocaust has dried up. You can still see them on Fox cable news now and then.

Yet the US sends them 3.8 billion, that is billion bucks a year, a part of that might go towards abortions.

As I just posted. That you don't LIKE the Jews has no bearing on whether there were gas chambers in the death camps.

I apologize to everyone that Penny lives in Michigan.

I'm a Democrats and there are many Jews in the Democrats congress, since there are 0 in the Republican Senate and only 2 in the Republican House.

Please write those Dems and tell them you are sure there were no gas chambers in the Holocaust Penny

SweetSue 92, Is that the year you were born or graduated?

anyway, don't feel bad,

My husband very seldom wins a debate with me either.

Penny we don't even have a debate going, I hope you realize. You are just running from your beliefs. You have stated you don't believe the Jews were ever in the gas chambers but you won't tell us WHY you believe this.

92 is the year I graduated college.

Oh you graduated from college, good for you:​

Yes it was a debate , and I didn't want you to miss this part of my post:

But just so you know, anytime you call me a holocaust denier in another post, it will be off topic, and I will report you, as it derails the whole post.

 

[SweetSue92]

As I just posted. That you don't LIKE the Jews has no bearing on whether there were gas chambers in the death camps.

I apologize to everyone that Penny lives in Michigan.

I'm a Democrats and there are many Jews in the Democrats congress, since there are 0 in the Republican Senate and only 2 in the Republican House.

Please write those Dems and tell them you are sure there were no gas chambers in the Holocaust Penny

SweetSue 92, Is that the year you were born or graduated?

anyway, don't feel bad,

My husband very seldom wins a debate with me either.

Penny we don't even have a debate going, I hope you realize. You are just running from your beliefs. You have stated you don't believe the Jews were ever in the gas chambers but you won't tell us WHY you believe this.

92 is the year I graduated college.

Oh you graduated from college, good for you:​

Yes it was a debate , and I didn't want you to miss this part of my post:

But just so you know, anytime you call me a holocaust denier in another post, it will be off topic, and I will report you, as it derails the whole post.

No we're not debating. You have only stated that you deny one of the most photographed and videographed truths of the 20th century. You don't state how or why you arrived at this nonsensical "belief". That does not make a "debate" Penny. That would be like me saying, Yeah I don't believe George W. Bush was ever president---good debate, I win.

I can SAY that but everyone reading will think I'm crazy. And stupid.

 

[SweetSue92]

As I just posted. That you don't LIKE the Jews has no bearing on whether there were gas chambers in the death camps.

I apologize to everyone that Penny lives in Michigan.

I'm a Democrats and there are many Jews in the Democrats congress, since there are 0 in the Republican Senate and only 2 in the Republican House.

Please write those Dems and tell them you are sure there were no gas chambers in the Holocaust Penny

SweetSue 92, Is that the year you were born or graduated?

anyway, don't feel bad,

My husband very seldom wins a debate with me either.

Penny we don't even have a debate going, I hope you realize. You are just running from your beliefs. You have stated you don't believe the Jews were ever in the gas chambers but you won't tell us WHY you believe this.

92 is the year I graduated college.

Oh you graduated from college, good for you:​

Yes it was a debate , and I didn't want you to miss this part of my post:

But just so you know, anytime you call me a holocaust denier in another post, it will be off topic, and I will report you, as it derails the whole post.

What are you ashamed of Penny? Why aren't you trying to convert more people into the TRUTH that there were no gas chambers at Auschwitz?

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Someone married Penelope? OMG!!!!!?!?!?!?!?!? Yes approx 25 million Russians died but that was part of war not a plan to exterminate Russians. The Nazi plan was to exterminate Jews. That is the difference here. People who don't believe that Nazis wanted all Jews exterminated just do not understand history.

 

[K9Buck]

SweetSue92

Sorry to drop out of this thread, but I've had my fill of crazy for the day.

 

[Penelope]

I'm a Democrats and there are many Jews in the Democrats congress, since there are 0 in the Republican Senate and only 2 in the Republican House.

Please write those Dems and tell them you are sure there were no gas chambers in the Holocaust Penny

SweetSue 92, Is that the year you were born or graduated?

anyway, don't feel bad,

My husband very seldom wins a debate with me either.

Penny we don't even have a debate going, I hope you realize. You are just running from your beliefs. You have stated you don't believe the Jews were ever in the gas chambers but you won't tell us WHY you believe this.

92 is the year I graduated college.

Oh you graduated from college, good for you:​

Yes it was a debate , and I didn't want you to miss this part of my post:

But just so you know, anytime you call me a holocaust denier in another post, it will be off topic, and I will report you, as it derails the whole post.

What are you ashamed of Penny? Why aren't you trying to convert more people into the TRUTH that there were no gas chambers at Auschwitz?

I'm not a least bit of ashamed of my thinking on the matter, but I'll have to respond to my thinking of the matter, which would derail the thread.

 

[impuretrash]

I'm a Democrats and there are many Jews in the Democrats congress, since there are 0 in the Republican Senate and only 2 in the Republican House.

Please write those Dems and tell them you are sure there were no gas chambers in the Holocaust Penny

SweetSue 92, Is that the year you were born or graduated?

anyway, don't feel bad,

My husband very seldom wins a debate with me either.

Penny we don't even have a debate going, I hope you realize. You are just running from your beliefs. You have stated you don't believe the Jews were ever in the gas chambers but you won't tell us WHY you believe this.

92 is the year I graduated college.

Oh you graduated from college, good for you:​

Yes it was a debate , and I didn't want you to miss this part of my post:

But just so you know, anytime you call me a holocaust denier in another post, it will be off topic, and I will report you, as it derails the whole post.

No we're not debating. You have only stated that you deny one of the most photographed and videographed truths of the 20th century. You don't state how or why you arrived at this nonsensical "belief". That does not make a "debate" Penny. That would be like me saying, Yeah I don't believe George W. Bush was ever president---good debate, I win.

I can SAY that but everyone reading will think I'm crazy. And stupid.

There's video of people being thrown into ovens and gas chambers?

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Please write those Dems and tell them you are sure there were no gas chambers in the Holocaust Penny

SweetSue 92, Is that the year you were born or graduated?

anyway, don't feel bad,

My husband very seldom wins a debate with me either.

Penny we don't even have a debate going, I hope you realize. You are just running from your beliefs. You have stated you don't believe the Jews were ever in the gas chambers but you won't tell us WHY you believe this.

92 is the year I graduated college.

Oh you graduated from college, good for you:​

Yes it was a debate , and I didn't want you to miss this part of my post:

But just so you know, anytime you call me a holocaust denier in another post, it will be off topic, and I will report you, as it derails the whole post.

What are you ashamed of Penny? Why aren't you trying to convert more people into the TRUTH that there were no gas chambers at Auschwitz?

I'm not a least bit of ashamed of my thinking on the matter, but I'll have to respond to my thinking of the matter, which would derail the thread.

It would not derail anything. The best part of America is that people who believe in their own history or that the Earth is flat are free to express their opinions. Stupidity is not a crime. You and I have debated many times here and you have lost every single on of them and one time you said "Well I am a Democrat" whatever that meant. A better argument is that exterminations happen frequently, just look at Africa and they are wrong there too. People suck.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Please write those Dems and tell them you are sure there were no gas chambers in the Holocaust Penny

SweetSue 92, Is that the year you were born or graduated?

anyway, don't feel bad,

My husband very seldom wins a debate with me either.

Penny we don't even have a debate going, I hope you realize. You are just running from your beliefs. You have stated you don't believe the Jews were ever in the gas chambers but you won't tell us WHY you believe this.

92 is the year I graduated college.

Oh you graduated from college, good for you:​

Yes it was a debate , and I didn't want you to miss this part of my post:

But just so you know, anytime you call me a holocaust denier in another post, it will be off topic, and I will report you, as it derails the whole post.

No we're not debating. You have only stated that you deny one of the most photographed and videographed truths of the 20th century. You don't state how or why you arrived at this nonsensical "belief". That does not make a "debate" Penny. That would be like me saying, Yeah I don't believe George W. Bush was ever president---good debate, I win.

I can SAY that but everyone reading will think I'm crazy. And stupid.

There's video of people being thrown into ovens and gas chambers?

There is firsthand details and witnesses. I am not sure about videos? Why do you want to see them?

 

[SweetSue92]

SweetSue92

Sorry to drop out of this thread, but I've had my fill of crazy for the day.

I get it, thanks for your contributions. Really appreciate it!