Hollywood, Stop Making Violent Movies

[NoNukes]

Terminator 2 was more expensive than the original. Aliens was more expensive than the original.

The reason they make so many sequels is because you can sell an idea easier, to a producer, that already sold big at the box office.

That was 2 of how many sequels? Trying to have a discussion with you is a major waste of time.

I gave you two examples.

I didn't feel the need to provide more to prove my point.

And the feeling is mutual.

Well, come to think of it, I take that back, at least you're not a total dick.

Now I see why we conflict. You ARE a total dick.

 

[Moonglow]

I'm a bit tired of hearing the left whining about gun violence and then discovering that yet another violent movie has been released like "Gangster Squad" and "Django" or "Chainsaw Massacre".

There is plenty of other subject matter out there you can make movies about other than gun violence or mass-murder. Change starts from within Hollywood.

One of the reasons America is such a violent society is because Hollywood spends so much time glorying gun-wielding assholes. Maybe being a good upstanding member of a society should be stressed a bit more in movies.

I grew up watching WWII movies, murders, gangsters and a plethora of other antisocial movies. This was the the 1960's. When has Hollywood or TV ever not had violence in video productions. Of course I do like porn also.

 

[Moonglow]

I don't think we can ban violence in movies but we need to relook our ratings system

A nipple gets you an R
While blowing shit up and shooting into a crowd is PG-13

Hollywood will quit making violent movies when Americans quit supporting them. Hollywood is about money, not art.

I think it's also about politics. I haven't been to see a movie in years, nor have many of my friends. We just don't like the gratuitous sex and violence. Worse, they do it to tv shows. I've cancelled my cable.

You could get the dvd collection series of Matlock, or Murder She Wrote.

 

[Moonglow]

I don't care for movies myself; I have to be dragged in kicking and screaming. But if you've ever had to listen to other people watching movies in the next room you realize that the sound tracks to Hollywood films basically consist of three elements:

1 Gunshots and explosions;
2 Car chases;
3 Women screaming.

Mix and match, over and over, ad nauseum. That's why I don't do movies. Not exactly challenging.

The movie Star Trek didn't have those three elements.

 

[Pogo]

I don't care for movies myself; I have to be dragged in kicking and screaming. But if you've ever had to listen to other people watching movies in the next room you realize that the sound tracks to Hollywood films basically consist of three elements:

1 Gunshots and explosions;
2 Car chases;
3 Women screaming.

Mix and match, over and over, ad nauseum. That's why I don't do movies. Not exactly challenging.

The movie Star Trek didn't have those three elements.

The rare exceptions; obviously there are no cars in the 23rd century. Science Fiction is one (albeit effectively minor) genre where moralist writers like Roddenberry and Heinlein can break the mold on the usual LCD shoot-em-up fare and yearn for a utopia that necessarily makes violence passé. Yet even there, the original Star Trek TV series seemed to feature an obligatory fist fight and/or phaser fire in every episode -- a holdover from the cowboys-and-Indians mentality of the medium's (ongoing) pubescent period.

I like your adjective describing this moral media morass: antisocial. Exactly appropriate.

 

[Political Junky]

I'm a bit tired of hearing the left whining about gun violence and then discovering that yet another violent movie has been released like "Gangster Squad" and "Django" or "Chainsaw Massacre".

There is plenty of other subject matter out there you can make movies about other than gun violence or mass-murder. Change starts from within Hollywood.

One of the reasons America is such a violent society is because Hollywood spends so much time glorying gun-wielding assholes. Maybe being a good upstanding member of a society should be stressed a bit more in movies.

The world watches those violent films, but only America has a high degree of gun violence.

 

[Sherry]

I saw Jack Reacher today, and two things irritated me while watching it:

1) That the hypocrisy of Hollywood even crossed my mind.

2) That it was a crime how they smashed up that beautiful '70 Chevelle SS.

 

[Noomi]

I'm a bit tired of hearing the left whining about gun violence and then discovering that yet another violent movie has been released like "Gangster Squad" and "Django" or "Chainsaw Massacre".

There is plenty of other subject matter out there you can make movies about other than gun violence or mass-murder. Change starts from within Hollywood.

One of the reasons America is such a violent society is because Hollywood spends so much time glorying gun-wielding assholes. Maybe being a good upstanding member of a society should be stressed a bit more in movies.

I would prefer Hollywood to continue making violent films, as opposed to sappy romance films starring either Hugh Grant or Reese Witherspoon.

 

[Politico]

No they smashed up six of them. Now you can feel really ill.

 

[NoNukes]

I'm a bit tired of hearing the left whining about gun violence and then discovering that yet another violent movie has been released like "Gangster Squad" and "Django" or "Chainsaw Massacre".

There is plenty of other subject matter out there you can make movies about other than gun violence or mass-murder. Change starts from within Hollywood.

One of the reasons America is such a violent society is because Hollywood spends so much time glorying gun-wielding assholes. Maybe being a good upstanding member of a society should be stressed a bit more in movies.

I grew up watching WWII movies, murders, gangsters and a plethora of other antisocial movies. This was the the 1960's. When has Hollywood or TV ever not had violence in video productions. Of course I do like porn also.

It is the children who grew up with Sesame Street and Mister Rogers who started bringing guns to school and killing people.

 

[Toro]

There is no evidence that violent movies have much of an affect on crime. These movies are also widely played in countries which have dramatically different crime rates than the US.

FTR, I won't be seeing Tarantino's new film.

 

[mudwhistle]

There is no evidence that violent movies have much of an affect on crime. These movies are also widely played in countries which have dramatically different crime rates than the US.

FTR, I won't be seeing Tarantino's new film.

I think this post was extremely stupid.

Anyone who has ever taken psychology in college knows that we are all a product of our environment.

The Sandy Hook shooter played Call To Duty religiously. His mother taught him how to shoot the weapons he used. He had a mental condition. I can't prove that he watched violent movies but most of the films released last year contained gratuitous violence. You can see it every day on TV. I think without the constant exposure to visual gun violence he probably wouldn't have done what he did.

The Columbine shooters were into the same morbid crapola this kid was. Most countries don't have the television programming we have. As a matter of fact I've never seen the kind of crap anywhere else that we see every day here in America. I've lived in and visited dozens of countries and none of them even comes close to watching TV like we do. We are addicted to our televisions.

 

[mudwhistle]

Obama promised that our taxes would not go up.

They went up last week.

Obama promised 4 years ago that he would never try to take our guns.

Do you believe him? Will he make up some excuse that now that Sandy Hook happened his opinion has evolved? As with same-sex marriage Obama's views on gun ownership have not changed. He doesn't think we should have the right to own them.

I think if we had known this 4 years ago he never would be president today.

Precedent Teaches Us The Left Really Wants ALL Our Guns | CNS News

 

[Againsheila]

I'm a bit tired of hearing the left whining about gun violence and then discovering that yet another violent movie has been released like "Gangster Squad" and "Django" or "Chainsaw Massacre".

There is plenty of other subject matter out there you can make movies about other than gun violence or mass-murder. Change starts from within Hollywood.

One of the reasons America is such a violent society is because Hollywood spends so much time glorying gun-wielding assholes. Maybe being a good upstanding member of a society should be stressed a bit more in movies.

I grew up watching WWII movies, murders, gangsters and a plethora of other antisocial movies. This was the the 1960's. When has Hollywood or TV ever not had violence in video productions. Of course I do like porn also.

It is the children who grew up with Sesame Street and Mister Rogers who started bringing guns to school and killing people.

I never thought of it that way, but that's true. We watched Westerns, good guys wore white hats, bad guys wore black hats and the good guys always kept their word, no matter what. And of course, the bad guys couldn't shoot worth beans.

 

[AmyNation]

I'm a bit tired of hearing the left whining about gun violence and then discovering that yet another violent movie has been released like "Gangster Squad" and "Django" or "Chainsaw Massacre".

There is plenty of other subject matter out there you can make movies about other than gun violence or mass-murder. Change starts from within Hollywood.

One of the reasons America is such a violent society is because Hollywood spends so much time glorying gun-wielding assholes. Maybe being a good upstanding member of a society should be stressed a bit more in movies.

We are not a violent society. Get a grip.

 

[Pogo]

Obama promised that our taxes would not go up.

They went up last week.

Obama promised 4 years ago that he would never try to take our guns.

Do you believe him? Will he make up some excuse that now that Sandy Hook happened his opinion has evolved? As with same-sex marriage Obama's views on gun ownership have not changed. He doesn't think we should have the right to own them.

I think if we had known this 4 years ago he never would be president today.

The relationship of this post to the topic eludes me but just to entertain, we did "know this four years ago". Nothing changed except the fearmongering from the gun-fetish lobby, which steps in with marketing guns a-blazing every time yet another massacre takes place.

I've been looking at a pop-up ad here and on other sites that reads "Obama says 'BAN GUNS'- what do you say?" -- which is a bunch of crap because he's said no such thing. Yet the gunmongers are right now making yet another killing, financially speaking, on the gullible who slurp this shit up on the basis of no basis whatsoever. Cynically clever, if dishonest, on the part of the gun lobby, and at the same time woefully ignorant on the part of the sheeple following them in lockstep.

Mudwhistle, clear something up for me -- your previous post refers to "here in America" yet your profile says "Yorkshire". When we get back to the topic of violent media I just wonder what your perspective is . TIA.

 

[bobcollum]

I'm a bit tired of hearing the left whining about gun violence and then discovering that yet another violent movie has been released like "Gangster Squad" and "Django" or "Chainsaw Massacre".

There is plenty of other subject matter out there you can make movies about other than gun violence or mass-murder. Change starts from within Hollywood.

One of the reasons America is such a violent society is because Hollywood spends so much time glorying gun-wielding assholes. Maybe being a good upstanding member of a society should be stressed a bit more in movies.

If your life's decisions are in anyway dictated by what you see in a movie I don't think it's fair to blame the movie.

 

[mudwhistle]

Obama promised that our taxes would not go up.

They went up last week.

Obama promised 4 years ago that he would never try to take our guns.

Do you believe him? Will he make up some excuse that now that Sandy Hook happened his opinion has evolved? As with same-sex marriage Obama's views on gun ownership have not changed. He doesn't think we should have the right to own them.

I think if we had known this 4 years ago he never would be president today.

The relationship of this post to the topic eludes me but just to entertain, we did "know this four years ago". Nothing changed except the fearmongering from the gun-fetish lobby, which steps in with marketing guns a-blazing every time yet another massacre takes place.

I've been looking at a pop-up ad here and on other sites that reads "Obama says 'BAN GUNS'- what do you say?" -- which is a bunch of crap because he's said no such thing. Yet the gunmongers are right now making yet another killing, financially speaking, on the gullible who slurp this shit up on the basis of no basis whatsoever. Cynically clever, if dishonest, on the part of the gun lobby, and at the same time woefully ignorant on the part of the sheeple following them in lockstep.

Mudwhistle, clear something up for me -- your previous post refers to "here in America" yet your profile says "Yorkshire". When we get back to the topic of violent media I just wonder what your perspective is . TIA.

That's not my real location. Hope that clears that up.

And anyone who thinks America isn't violent should spend some time down in Soul City, Hell's Kitchen, or any other place that the poor, blacks, Hispanics, drunks, meth-freaks, or hookers hang out on a regular basis.

 

[AmyNation]

Yes I know, it "feels" violent.

Try watching less 24 hour news networks.

 

[bobcollum]

Obama promised that our taxes would not go up.

They went up last week.

Obama promised 4 years ago that he would never try to take our guns.

Do you believe him? Will he make up some excuse that now that Sandy Hook happened his opinion has evolved? As with same-sex marriage Obama's views on gun ownership have not changed. He doesn't think we should have the right to own them.

I think if we had known this 4 years ago he never would be president today.

The relationship of this post to the topic eludes me but just to entertain, we did "know this four years ago". Nothing changed except the fearmongering from the gun-fetish lobby, which steps in with marketing guns a-blazing every time yet another massacre takes place.

I've been looking at a pop-up ad here and on other sites that reads "Obama says 'BAN GUNS'- what do you say?" -- which is a bunch of crap because he's said no such thing. Yet the gunmongers are right now making yet another killing, financially speaking, on the gullible who slurp this shit up on the basis of no basis whatsoever. Cynically clever, if dishonest, on the part of the gun lobby, and at the same time woefully ignorant on the part of the sheeple following them in lockstep.

Mudwhistle, clear something up for me -- your previous post refers to "here in America" yet your profile says "Yorkshire". When we get back to the topic of violent media I just wonder what your perspective is . TIA.

That's not my real location. Hope that clears that up.

And anyone who thinks America isn't violent should spend some time down in Soul City, Hell's Kitchen, or any other place that the poor, blacks, Hispanics, drunks, meth-freaks, or hookers hang out on a regular basis.

Violence is everywhere, all over the world.

It was before movies and video games too.