Here we go: Democrat leader Pelosi and Schumer call for gun control in wake of Texas mass shooting

[Katniss]

I have to disagree with your assertion that the shooters are often of one particular party but setting that aside, let's say your position that it's not the gun but the wielder of the gun that is the problem. What do you think is the best approach to making society safe until we are able to get a handle on those behavioral influencers?

Society didnt get here overnite. There are no quick fixes.

I agree.....so what steps can we start taking to move towards a fix?

Step one properly identify the problem

How is that accomplished, what is there a criteria for identifying the problem, does it require a certain percentage of consensus?

Honest inquiry into whats different about todays society. Guns have been a constant.....no name mass shooters are new.

The capabilities and the performance of the gun has changed therefore guns have not been as constant as what you are suggesting. Of course, society has also evolved and changed.

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

Another senseless massacre and gun nuts start spouting........you are not allowed to talk about guns

The problem are NOT the guns it is the people, especially a class of people democrats ignores over and over.

Have you ever bothered to examine the Demographics of the mass shooters?

They are nearly always on drugs and/or mentally ill, and amazingly often a democrat who does the mass shootings.

I have to disagree with your assertion that the shooters are often of one particular party but setting that aside, let's say your position that it's not the gun but the wielder of the gun that is the problem. What do you think is the best approach to making society safe until we are able to get a handle on those behavioral influencers?

Society didnt get here overnite. There are no quick fixes.

I agree.....so what steps can we start taking to move towards a fix?

Lock up the crazies before they become bad guys.

Shoot the bad guys.

 

[Katniss]

Another senseless massacre and gun nuts start spouting........you are not allowed to talk about guns

The problem are NOT the guns it is the people, especially a class of people democrats ignores over and over.

Have you ever bothered to examine the Demographics of the mass shooters?

They are nearly always on drugs and/or mentally ill, and amazingly often a democrat who does the mass shootings.

I have to disagree with your assertion that the shooters are often of one particular party but setting that aside, let's say your position that it's not the gun but the wielder of the gun that is the problem. What do you think is the best approach to making society safe until we are able to get a handle on those behavioral influencers?

Society didnt get here overnite. There are no quick fixes.

I agree.....so what steps can we start taking to move towards a fix?

Lock up the crazies before they become bad guys.

Shoot the bad guys.

That's a very simplistic approach. If life were just as simplistic (grin)

 

[August West]

Another senseless massacre and gun nuts start spouting........you are not allowed to talk about guns

The problem are NOT the guns it is the people, especially a class of people democrats ignores over and over.

Have you ever bothered to examine the Demographics of the mass shooters?

They are nearly always on drugs and/or mentally ill, and amazingly often a democrat who does the mass shootings.

I have to disagree with your assertion that the shooters are often of one particular party but setting that aside, let's say your position that it's not the gun but the wielder of the gun that is the problem. What do you think is the best approach to making society safe until we are able to get a handle on those behavioral influencers?

Society didnt get here overnite. There are no quick fixes.

I agree.....so what steps can we start taking to move towards a fix?

Step one properly identify the problem

Easy access to guns for the mentally ill. What`s step 2?
All countries have mentally ill people but they try not to arm them. We have an organization in this country that lobbies for crazies, criminals and terrorists because they have rights too. A classroom full of second graders? Not so much.

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

The problem are NOT the guns it is the people, especially a class of people democrats ignores over and over.

Have you ever bothered to examine the Demographics of the mass shooters?

They are nearly always on drugs and/or mentally ill, and amazingly often a democrat who does the mass shootings.

I have to disagree with your assertion that the shooters are often of one particular party but setting that aside, let's say your position that it's not the gun but the wielder of the gun that is the problem. What do you think is the best approach to making society safe until we are able to get a handle on those behavioral influencers?

Society didnt get here overnite. There are no quick fixes.

I agree.....so what steps can we start taking to move towards a fix?

Lock up the crazies before they become bad guys.

Shoot the bad guys.

That's a very simplistic approach. If life were just as simplistic (grin)

Simplistic approaches are generally more effective than constant oppositional dialog.

 

[Sunsettommy]

Another senseless massacre and gun nuts start spouting........you are not allowed to talk about guns

The problem are NOT the guns it is the people, especially a class of people democrats ignores over and over.

Have you ever bothered to examine the Demographics of the mass shooters?

They are nearly always on drugs and/or mentally ill, and amazingly often a democrat who does the mass shootings.

I have to disagree with your assertion that the shooters are often of one particular party but setting that aside, let's say your position that it's not the gun but the wielder of the gun that is the problem. What do you think is the best approach to making society safe until we are able to get a handle on those behavioral influencers?

Society is only as safe those who are allowed to defend themselves, taking guns away doesn't stop the criminal behavior of people, they will use other means as a recent killing in FRANCE showed when Knives were the weapon used. The reality is that Guns are not even the most common choice for murder anyway, from The Federalist:

Knives Kill More People Each Year Than Rifles: Time For Knife Control?

November 11, 2014 By Sean Davis

Excerpt:

"According to crime statistics from the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI), knives are consistently used to kill people far more often than rifles are used. And the numbers aren’t even close: five times as many murders were committed with knives than were committed with rifles last year.

The FBI statistics show that knives have been used as a murder weapon far more often than rifles — even those evil “assault weapons” we hear so much about — for quite a while. In 2013, knives or other cutting instruments were used to kill 1,490 victims. In contrast, rifles were the cause of death of 285 murder victims. Shotguns were used in 308 murders. In 2009, the ratio was very similar: knives were used in five times as many murders as rifles.

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Most of the serious crimes occurs in the large cities, the URBAN areas where large number of people congregate, which becomes a brew for all kinds of criminal activities.

Instead of more useless gun bannings, and restrictions laws, lets try preventing mentally ill people from being able to buy a gun, lets try preventing drugged up people from buying guns instead."

How come Democrats never focus on the people themselves, just the guns?

It seems all they care about are to ban/restrict guns, ignore the sick people who misuse them.

Remember this?

"Society is only as safe those who are allowed to defend themselves"

It sounds as though your argument is to allow one group of citizens access to guns while restricting that same access from another group of citizens in urban areas.

This is not a unique argument.

That isn't what I said at all, try reading this again:

"Most of the serious crimes occurs in the large cities, the URBAN areas where large number of people congregate, which becomes a brew for all kinds of criminal activities.

Instead of more useless gun bannings, and restrictions laws, lets try preventing mentally ill people from being able to buy a gun, lets try preventing drugged up people from buying guns instead."

How come Democrats never focus on the people themselves, just the guns?

It seems all they care about are to ban/restrict guns, ignore the sick people who misuse them."

=====

It is the Drugged and mentally ill people who are doing almost all of the mass killings, why did you ignore this?

It seems you are not here to debate honestly after all.

 

[Manonthestreet]

Society didnt get here overnite. There are no quick fixes.

I agree.....so what steps can we start taking to move towards a fix?

Step one properly identify the problem

How is that accomplished, what is there a criteria for identifying the problem, does it require a certain percentage of consensus?

Honest inquiry into whats different about todays society. Guns have been a constant.....no name mass shooters are new.

The capabilities and the performance of the gun has changed therefore guns have not been as constant as what you are suggesting. Of course, society has also evolved and changed.

No they have not changed. Goes to step one...honesty....tons of semi-autos came home after WWII and Korea and nothing happened …...

 

[Manonthestreet]

The problem are NOT the guns it is the people, especially a class of people democrats ignores over and over.

Have you ever bothered to examine the Demographics of the mass shooters?

They are nearly always on drugs and/or mentally ill, and amazingly often a democrat who does the mass shootings.

I have to disagree with your assertion that the shooters are often of one particular party but setting that aside, let's say your position that it's not the gun but the wielder of the gun that is the problem. What do you think is the best approach to making society safe until we are able to get a handle on those behavioral influencers?

Society didnt get here overnite. There are no quick fixes.

I agree.....so what steps can we start taking to move towards a fix?

Step one properly identify the problem

Easy access to guns for the mentally ill. What`s step 2?
All countries have mentally ill people but they try not to arm them. We have an organization in this country that lobbies for crazies, criminals and terrorists because they have rights too. A classroom full of second graders? Not so much.

Your propaganda doesn't get us anywhere.

 

[Wyatt earp]

Society didnt get here overnite. There are no quick fixes.

I agree.....so what steps can we start taking to move towards a fix?

Step one properly identify the problem

How is that accomplished, what is there a criteria for identifying the problem, does it require a certain percentage of consensus?

Honest inquiry into whats different about todays society. Guns have been a constant.....no name mass shooters are new.

The capabilities and the performance of the gun has changed therefore guns have not been as constant as what you are suggesting. Of course, society has also evolved and changed.

 

[Jets]

This is what elected officials do. These seize on ANY incident that can further a political agenda. It isn’t bound by a particular ideology or party.

 

[TroglocratsRdumb]

Even if the Psychocrats banned guns today they would never be able to disarm the criminals, terrorists and mass shooters.

 

[Crepitus]

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) and Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-NY) called for the Senate to vote on gun control legislation in the wake of the mass shooting in Midland, Texas.
HERE WE GO: Democrat Leaders Pelosi and Schumer Call For Gun Control in Wake of Texas Mass Shooting


WE SAW THIS GUN BS COMING A MILE AWAY!! YOU CAN READ A DEMOCRATIC MORON LIKE AN OPENN BOOK ..........
Everyone kNNows you idiots lie cheat and steal---------- everyone also knows when you stupid mother fkrs want guns taken you have a nice shoot out happen so you can get your weak minded stupid asses to start their ggun grab shit


NNEWS FLASH FKRS . 10000 PPL COULD GET SHOT UP BY . A NON LAW ABIDING GUN OWNER AND WE STILL WONN'T GIVE UP OUR 2NND AMENDMENT ASSHOLES KEEP SLAPPING UR LAWS PP L WILL STILL HAVE GUNS YOU MENTLA PUSSIES!!

And a buncha RWNJs are already blaming it on mental health, which is kinda ironic because they wanna take that away from folks along with medical healthcare.

And shooting don't have anything to do with guns away, right?

 

[Katniss]

Another senseless massacre and gun nuts start spouting........you are not allowed to talk about guns

The problem are NOT the guns it is the people, especially a class of people democrats ignores over and over.

Have you ever bothered to examine the Demographics of the mass shooters?

They are nearly always on drugs and/or mentally ill, and amazingly often a democrat who does the mass shootings.

I have to disagree with your assertion that the shooters are often of one particular party but setting that aside, let's say your position that it's not the gun but the wielder of the gun that is the problem. What do you think is the best approach to making society safe until we are able to get a handle on those behavioral influencers?

Society is only as safe those who are allowed to defend themselves, taking guns away doesn't stop the criminal behavior of people, they will use other means as a recent killing in FRANCE showed when Knives were the weapon used. The reality is that Guns are not even the most common choice for murder anyway, from The Federalist:

Knives Kill More People Each Year Than Rifles: Time For Knife Control?

November 11, 2014 By Sean Davis

Excerpt:

"According to crime statistics from the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI), knives are consistently used to kill people far more often than rifles are used. And the numbers aren’t even close: five times as many murders were committed with knives than were committed with rifles last year.

The FBI statistics show that knives have been used as a murder weapon far more often than rifles — even those evil “assault weapons” we hear so much about — for quite a while. In 2013, knives or other cutting instruments were used to kill 1,490 victims. In contrast, rifles were the cause of death of 285 murder victims. Shotguns were used in 308 murders. In 2009, the ratio was very similar: knives were used in five times as many murders as rifles.

=================

Most of the serious crimes occurs in the large cities, the URBAN areas where large number of people congregate, which becomes a brew for all kinds of criminal activities.

Instead of more useless gun bannings, and restrictions laws, lets try preventing mentally ill people from being able to buy a gun, lets try preventing drugged up people from buying guns instead."

How come Democrats never focus on the people themselves, just the guns?

It seems all they care about are to ban/restrict guns, ignore the sick people who misuse them.

Remember this?

"Society is only as safe those who are allowed to defend themselves"

It sounds as though your argument is to allow one group of citizens access to guns while restricting that same access from another group of citizens in urban areas.

This is not a unique argument.

That isn't what I said at all, try reading this again:

"Most of the serious crimes occurs in the large cities, the URBAN areas where large number of people congregate, which becomes a brew for all kinds of criminal activities.

Instead of more useless gun bannings, and restrictions laws, lets try preventing mentally ill people from being able to buy a gun, lets try preventing drugged up people from buying guns instead."

How come Democrats never focus on the people themselves, just the guns?

It seems all they care about are to ban/restrict guns, ignore the sick people who misuse them."

=====

It is the Drugged and mentally ill people who are doing almost all of the mass killings, why did you ignore this?

It seems you are not here to debate honestly after all.

"It seems you are not here to debate honestly after all"

Where did you come up with that?

Let me get this straight - You bold insults about one party and expect honest debate from others when you've already established your bias. Interesting position..........

I am happy to discuss the issue. I grew up with guns. They were an important part of my family's lifestyle. I agree our leaders have allowed greedy companies to create an opioid epidemic that has contributed to the uptick in crime. I also agree that our leaders have ignored mental illness. Now what?

 

[EduardBernstein]

Saying guns limit violence is like saying McDonald's limits obesity. Increase the availability, and the problems escalate.

 

[Crepitus]

Another senseless massacre and gun nuts start spouting........you are not allowed to talk about guns

The problem are NOT the guns it is the people, especially a class of people democrats ignores over and over.

Have you ever bothered to examine the Demographics of the mass shooters?

They are nearly always on drugs and/or mentally ill, and amazingly often a democrat who does the mass shootings.

I have to disagree with your assertion that the shooters are often of one particular party but setting that aside, let's say your position that it's not the gun but the wielder of the gun that is the problem. What do you think is the best approach to making society safe until we are able to get a handle on those behavioral influencers?

Society didnt get here overnite. There are no quick fixes.

I agree.....so what steps can we start taking to move towards a fix?

Step one properly identify the problem

Every maniac has access to weapons that let him or her kill and injure dozens of people in a matter of minutes.

Ok, what next?

 

[Katniss]

I agree.....so what steps can we start taking to move towards a fix?

Step one properly identify the problem

How is that accomplished, what is there a criteria for identifying the problem, does it require a certain percentage of consensus?

Honest inquiry into whats different about todays society. Guns have been a constant.....no name mass shooters are new.

The capabilities and the performance of the gun has changed therefore guns have not been as constant as what you are suggesting. Of course, society has also evolved and changed.

No they have not changed. Goes to step one...honesty....tons of semi-autos came home after WWII and Korea and nothing happened …...

Who'd they come home with? That was a rhetorical question. We both know the answer - soldiers who were trained when and how to use those weapons not weekend warriors who just get a thrill out of having something so powerful. Soldiers knew the damage those guns could do.

 

[TroglocratsRdumb]

Another senseless massacre and gun nuts start spouting........you are not allowed to talk about guns

mass shooters, terrorist and criminals ignore gun laws
Pelosi and Schumer are exploiting their followers

 

[tycho1572]

When someone intentionally runs people over with a vehicle, democrats blame the perp.
When someone stabs a bunch of people, democrats blame the perp.
When someone detonates a bomb to kill people, democrats blame the perp.

When someone shoots a bunch of people, democrats blame the gun.
smh

 

[Manonthestreet]

Step one properly identify the problem

How is that accomplished, what is there a criteria for identifying the problem, does it require a certain percentage of consensus?

Honest inquiry into whats different about todays society. Guns have been a constant.....no name mass shooters are new.

The capabilities and the performance of the gun has changed therefore guns have not been as constant as what you are suggesting. Of course, society has also evolved and changed.

No they have not changed. Goes to step one...honesty....tons of semi-autos came home after WWII and Korea and nothing happened …...

Who'd they come home with? That was a rhetorical question. We both know the answer - soldiers who were trained when and how to use those weapons not weekend warriors who just get a thrill out of having something so powerful. Soldiers knew the damage those guns could do.

Continuing the infantilization of America and solidifying worldwide-held beliefs that Americans are stupid, a Missouri councilwoman, Kelli Dunaway (D), was sworn into office with her hand on a Dr. Suess book. "Just because we've done things the way we've always done them is no reason to keep doing them that way,” she told ABC News.

America hasn’t seen anything this ridiculous since RompHims for men. In the same way rompers infantilized men, using children’s books to swear in members of our legislatures similarly reduces our vaunted institutions into a clown show. NOT SATIRE: Missouri Councilwoman Takes Oath on Dr. Seuss Book

 

[Crepitus]

lets try preventing mentally ill people from being able to buy a gun, lets try preventing drugged up people from buying guns instead."

But your oRange mEssia actually made it easier for mentally ill people to purchase guns.

Howndo you reconcile that with your tilted belief system?