Has the United States surrendered to anthropogenic climate change?

[schmidlap]

Political. Not science. There is zero empirical evidence to support AGW. It is ALL derived from computer models.

And those models are so poorly written that no matter what numbers are plugged in the results are always the same.

Your ideological perversions don't apply to the real world. Only the world of computer derived fiction.

Obviously, capitalism cannot afford to indulge itself in your scientific denialism, but must confront reality:

A Majority of Companies Are Already Feeling the Climate Heat​

Morgan Stanley has published a new report showing most companies around the world are feeling the impacts of a warming world.​

• Over half of the firms surveyed in a recent Morgan Stanley report experienced the climate's impact on operations within the past year, including increased costs, worker disruption and revenue losses.
• Extreme heat and storms were the leading disruptions, followed by wildfires and smoke, water shortage, and flooding or rising sea levels.
• Nearly 90% of South American companies expect climate change to be a risk to their business models by the end of the decade, with raw material availability and pricing, and the risk of existing manufacturing processes becoming obsolete among their top concerns.

Climate change is already having an impact on companies around the world.​

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Over half of the firms surveyed in a recent Morgan Stanley report experienced the climate's impact on operations within the past year, including increased costs, worker disruption and revenue losses. The growing financial impacts are a key reason some companies are continuing to pursue emissions cuts and adapt to a warming world even amidst political turbulence, the survey found.​

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Extreme heat and storms were the leading disruptions, followed by wildfires and smoke, water shortage, and flooding or rising sea levels, according to the new report. The US alone has spent nearly $1 trillion on disaster recovery and other climate-related needs over the past year, a recent Bloomberg Intelligence analysis found. Data collected by the US Census Bureau shows how these impacts can play out locally: For example, nearly two-thirds of businesses in the Tampa metro area surveyed reported losses due to extreme weather following last year’s hurricane season when Helene and Milton made landfall on Florida’s west coast...​

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The impacts are hardly limited to companies operating in the US. This year’s Canadian wildfires forced evacuations of oil sands projects in Alberta, Canada, while a disastrous 2022 flood recently led Toyota to file a lawsuit for over $360 million in damages in South Africa. Extreme heat is forcing Australian mining companies to adapt their operations...​

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The findings show nearly 90% of South American companies expect climate change to be a risk to their business models by the end of the decade. Companies ranked raw material availability and pricing, as well as the risk of existing manufacturing processes becoming obsolete among their top concerns. While being the areas most likely to experience extreme weather, the Middle East and North Africa reported the highest rates of viewing sustainability as a driver of value creation.​

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The challenges are different in North America, though, where companies see political volatility as the top barrier to investing in sustainability. The backlash to ESG, particularly among US Republicans, caused 21% of North American companies to report political hostility as a top barrier to their climate transition. In response, some companies have taken to “greenhushing” — a phenomenon of pushing to meet climate goals while not touting them — while others have rolled back or abandoned their emissions targets.​

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[schmidlap]

I'm older than you, AND I'm a scientist. And I can recognize a pseudo science when I see one.

As referenced above in Post #101, corporate America respects the consensus of climatologists and recognizes the reality and the challenge of anthropogenic climate change. It cannot kowtow to science deniers.

 

[schmidlap]

I agree with your point, but the other side is that "climate change" has been the false flag to restrict liberty. The fact is that climate has ALWAYS changed, with or without man. The record for that is clear.

Climatologists have recognized the unprecedented human impact of anthropogenic climate change. The dirty fuel profiteers and ideologues have the science deniers house-trained, but that does not alter the scientific consensus.

It’s important to remember that scientists always focus on the evidence, not on opinions. Scientific evidence continues to show that human activities (primarily the human burning of fossil fuels) have warmed Earth’s surface and its ocean basins, which in turn have continued to impact Earth’s climate. This is based on over a century of scientific evidence forming the structural backbone of today's civilization.​

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NASA Global Climate Change presents the state of scientific knowledge about climate change while highlighting the role NASA plays in better understanding our home planet. This effort includes citing multiple peer-reviewed studies from research groups across the world, illustrating the accuracy and consensus of research results (in this case, the scientific consensus on climate change) consistent with NASA’s scientific research portfolio.​

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With that said, multiple studies published in peer-reviewed scientific journals show that climate-warming trends over the past century are extremely likely due to human activities. In addition, most of the leading scientific organizations worldwide have issued public statements endorsing this position. The following is a partial list of these organizations, along with links to their published statements and a selection of related resources...​

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Scientific Consensus - NASA Science

It’s important to remember that scientists always focus on the evidence, not on opinions. Scientific evidence continues to show that human activities

science.nasa.gov

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[CrusaderFrank]

Obviously, capitalism cannot afford to indulge itself in your scientific denialism, but must confront reality:

A Majority of Companies Are Already Feeling the Climate Heat​

Morgan Stanley has published a new report showing most companies around the world are feeling the impacts of a warming world.​

• Over half of the firms surveyed in a recent Morgan Stanley report experienced the climate's impact on operations within the past year, including increased costs, worker disruption and revenue losses.
• Extreme heat and storms were the leading disruptions, followed by wildfires and smoke, water shortage, and flooding or rising sea levels.
• Nearly 90% of South American companies expect climate change to be a risk to their business models by the end of the decade, with raw material availability and pricing, and the risk of existing manufacturing processes becoming obsolete among their top concerns.

Climate change is already having an impact on companies around the world.​

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Over half of the firms surveyed in a recent Morgan Stanley report experienced the climate's impact on operations within the past year, including increased costs, worker disruption and revenue losses. The growing financial impacts are a key reason some companies are continuing to pursue emissions cuts and adapt to a warming world even amidst political turbulence, the survey found.​

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Extreme heat and storms were the leading disruptions, followed by wildfires and smoke, water shortage, and flooding or rising sea levels, according to the new report. The US alone has spent nearly $1 trillion on disaster recovery and other climate-related needs over the past year, a recent Bloomberg Intelligence analysis found. Data collected by the US Census Bureau shows how these impacts can play out locally: For example, nearly two-thirds of businesses in the Tampa metro area surveyed reported losses due to extreme weather following last year’s hurricane season when Helene and Milton made landfall on Florida’s west coast...​

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The impacts are hardly limited to companies operating in the US. This year’s Canadian wildfires forced evacuations of oil sands projects in Alberta, Canada, while a disastrous 2022 flood recently led Toyota to file a lawsuit for over $360 million in damages in South Africa. Extreme heat is forcing Australian mining companies to adapt their operations...​

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The findings show nearly 90% of South American companies expect climate change to be a risk to their business models by the end of the decade. Companies ranked raw material availability and pricing, as well as the risk of existing manufacturing processes becoming obsolete among their top concerns. While being the areas most likely to experience extreme weather, the Middle East and North Africa reported the highest rates of viewing sustainability as a driver of value creation.​

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The challenges are different in North America, though, where companies see political volatility as the top barrier to investing in sustainability. The backlash to ESG, particularly among US Republicans, caused 21% of North American companies to report political hostility as a top barrier to their climate transition. In response, some companies have taken to “greenhushing” — a phenomenon of pushing to meet climate goals while not touting them — while others have rolled back or abandoned their emissions targets.​

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Climate Science: China CO2 = (USA * 2) + India

 

[Frankeneinstein]

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They know where the money is, I'm thinking about joining this scam myself.

 

[schmidlap]

They know where the money is, I'm thinking about joining this scam myself.

Trump's contempt for science is not shared by most Americans.

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[schmidlap]

Climate Science: China CO2 = (USA * 2) + India

Your political concerns have nothing to do with the scientific reality of anthropogenic climate change..

 

[Frankeneinstein]

Trump's contempt for science is not shared by most Americans.

That's because their contempt is for white liberal scams and not science.

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Oh look, a graph! What scam is complete without them!

 

[Frankeneinstein]

With that said, multiple studies published in peer-reviewed scientific journals show that climate-warming trends over the past century are extremely likely due to human activities. In addition, most of the leading scientific organizations worldwide have issued public statements endorsing this position. The following is a partial list of these organizations, along with links to their published statements and a selection of related resources...

So, this is proof the "climate science" of the 1970's that said industrial pollution was bringing on a new ice age was all just "fake news"?

 

[schmidlap]

That's because their contempt is for white liberal scams and not science.


Oh look, a graph! What scam is complete without them!

Your paranoidal, conspiratorial dismissal of the global consensus of climatologists and scientific bodies as a "white liberal scam" exposes your aberrant view of the matter as ideological and racial.

You are impotent in refuting the science.

 

[SeaMajor7]

Political. Not science. There is zero empirical evidence to support AGW. It is ALL derived from computer models.

And those models are so poorly written that no matter what numbers are plugged in the results are always the same.

Your ideological perversions don't apply to the real world. Only the world of computer derived fiction.

GIGO forever

 

[BluesLegend]

Political. Not science. There is zero empirical evidence to support AGW. It is ALL derived from computer models.

And those models are so poorly written that no matter what numbers are plugged in the results are always the same.

Your ideological perversions don't apply to the real world. Only the world of computer derived fiction.

The climate doom and gloom predictions are so accurate...all the Dems buy ocean front property. Oh wait...

 

[SassyIrishLass]

Global warming is one of the biggest scams in history

 

[DonGlock26]

Ban private jets first.

The day the fight against "climate change" starts with the elites, I'll start considering they might be serious.

The NIMBY elites will never allow their wings to be clipped.
Remember how quickly the elites had those people of color thrown off Martha's Vineyard
just because they were illegal aliens. They hadn't even raped anybody yet.

 

[marvin martian]

Yes, for all intensive purpose, the United States has surrendered to anthropogenic climate change, rejecting scientific expertise and embracing the ideological dogma of the deniers' media entertainers and politicians with no expertise in climatology.

Ah, yes, "scientific expertise":

 

[DonGlock26]

Ah, yes, "scientific expertise":

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They should all be treated to a Nuremberg trial and punishment.

 

[westwall]

As referenced above in Post #101, corporate America respects the consensus of climatologists and recognizes the reality and the challenge of anthropogenic climate change. It cannot kowtow to science deniers.

No, they just like being able to make money from the policies. They don't respect the pseudo scientists at all. But they certainly love to profit off of their BS.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Your political concerns have nothing to do with the scientific reality of anthropogenic climate change..

If it's "real" why does China get a pass?

 

[MarathonMike]

The consensus among the world’s climatologists, scientists in general, national and local governments, and savvy folks everywhere is that humans cannot endlessness poop into the heavens with impunity. The consequences are predictable, and are already exacting a hefty toll.

Nation's top climate science assessments removed from federal websites​

Trump… seeks to shut down the laboratory atop a peak in Hawaii where scientists have gathered the most conclusive evidence of human-caused climate change since the 1950s.​

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The Mauna Loa laboratory in Hawaii has measured atmospheric carbon dioxide, which — along with other planet-warming pollution — has led directly to climate change, driving sea level rise, supercharging weather and destroying food systems.​

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Trump’s budget proposal would also defund many other climate labs, including instrument sites comprising the US government’s greenhouse gas monitoring network, which stretches from northern Alaska to the South Pole.​

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But it’s the Mauna Loa laboratory that is the most prominent target of Trump’s climate ire, as measurements that began there in 1958 have steadily shown CO2’s upward march as human activities have emitted more and more of the planet-warming gas each year.​

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/trump-admin-tries-to-kill-the-most-indisputable-evidence-of-human-caused-climate-change-by-shuttering-observatory/ar-AA1HLdjJ?ocid=BingNewsVerp​

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Trump, monumentally ignorant concerning climatology, has been spewing his baseless crap for many years, and has presented no scientific evidence to support his ludicrous dogma:

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"The concept of global warming was created by and for the
Chinese in order to make U.S. manufacturing non-competitive.”

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"This very expensive GLOBAL WARMING bullshit has got to stop.
Our planet is freezing, record low temps,and our GW scientists are stuck in ice.”

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“It's a hoax. I mean, it's a money-making industry, OK?”


The U.S. Under Trump: Alone in Its Climate Denial
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Climate change will cost about $38 trillion a year by 2049.​

It is impossible to surrender to something that doesn't exist. There is no proof that this warming cycle is different from the HUNDREDS of previous warming cycles.

 

[schmidlap]

It's painfully obvious that an ilk of hardcore ideologues is utterly impervious to scientific consensus regarding anthropogenic climate change by those most knowledgeable in climatology.

They're very pissy because they don't like the reality, but are incapable of concocting a coherent challenge to all the corroborative scientific data.

So be it.