Harry reid ready to rush through internet sales tax; obama endorses

[Synthaholic]

Yet another job-killing, business-killing, bullshit piece of legislation brought to you by the current regime.

You don't have a clue what you're talking about.

Internet business have an unfair advantage, especially on large purchases. Just ask Guitar Center. Someone buying a $3,000 mixing board that they have already researched and know that they want is faced with a choice of paying an extra $210 to buy it locally (based on a 7% sales tax).

Only those totally skittish about buying online would take that choice. So that ends up costing your community - schools/fire/police/roads, etc. - and only enriches the Jeff Bezos of the world.

 

[AquaAthena]

Yet another job-killing, business-killing, bullshit piece of legislation brought to you by the current regime.

Yep... Another way to suck the life out of the economy

Another way to take money out of people's pockets, thereby hurting businesses trying desperately to survive the job-killing president policies.

We have no sales tax in Oregon.

 

[Synthaholic]

Yet another job-killing, business-killing, bullshit piece of legislation brought to you by the current regime.

Yep... Another way to suck the life out of the economy

Sometimes it seems that our government is destroying our businesses on purpose. To what end, that is open to speculation.

Until just now, I never realized what a fucking moron you were!

See? You can learn things on USMB.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

Sticking it to the little man as usual. Seriously, this is the solution to everything for the dems. Tax, tax, tax.

 

[Synthaholic]

This is what happens when the fascists won't tax the wealthy.

This is what happens when you give socialists too much power.

No. This is what happens when you make the penalty for not taxing the super wealthy acceptable. This country has absorbed the Sequestration without batting an eye. It wasn't harsh enough.

Gov. Voldemort disagrees:



Gov. Rick Scott asks Obama to stop furloughs of air traffic controllers

 

[Katzndogz]

I suspect that the cost of record keeping will make my organization shut down our tiny internet store.

We offer fee based downloads more as a service, than as a revenue source.

But the moment I have to start collecting taxes for the government is the moment the cost of operations puts that service out of business.

That's one of the goals of the obama regime met. The more business forced out of bustiness the better. If you think that your internet business is viable, move it out of the country.

 

[Synthaholic]

Harry Reid and Wal-Mart hope nobody will notice their online revenue raid.

By The Wall Street Journal

Every time Congress has taken a serious look at proposals to boost Internet sales taxes, it has rejected them. That’s probably why pro-tax Senators are trying to rush through an online tax hike with as little consideration as possible.

As early as Monday, the Senate will vote on a bill that was introduced only last Tuesday. The text of this legislation, which would fundamentally change interstate commerce, only became available on the Library of Congress website over the weekend. And you thought ObamaCare was jammed through Nancy Pelosi‘s Democratic House in a hurry.

For Senators curious about what they’re voting on, it is the same flawed proposal that Mike Enzi (R., Wyo.) introduced in February. It has been repackaged to qualify for a Senate rule that allows Majority Leader Harry Reid to bypass committee debate and bring it straight to the floor.

Mr. Enzi’s Marketplace Fairness Act discriminates against Internet-based businesses by imposing burdens that it does not apply to brick-and-mortar companies. For the first time, online merchants would be forced to collect sales taxes for all of America’s estimated 9,600 state and local taxing authorities.

New Hampshire, for example, has no sales tax, but a Granite State Web merchant would be forced to collect and remit sales taxes to all the governments that do. Small online sellers will therefore have to comply with tax laws created by distant governments in which they have no representation, and in places where they consume no local services.

Meanwhile, New Hampshire’s brick-and-mortar retailers will bear no such burden. They will not be required to collect taxes on the many customers who drive across the Maine and Massachusetts borders to shop in New Hampshire. Bill sponsors say it would be too big a hassle to force traditional retailers to ask every walk-in customer where they live, but these Senators are happy to impose new obligations online.

The Enzi plan would require a centralized tax collector for each state or for a group of states that would gather both state and local levies from the online merchants. His office concedes that could still mean 27 or more different auditors of a Web-based business—which is better than 9,600 but hardly qualifies as simplicity

HARRY REID READY TO RUSH THROUGH INTERNET SALES TAX; OBAMA ENDORSES | sreaves32

This is a big problem. Currently, Internet sellers have a huge advantage over brick and mortar stores, but this would just reverse things in an even worse way. On the surface I do support an Internet sales tax, but not if sellers will have to make payments to every single tax authority in every single state.

About the only way I could support this is if they make one flat tax rate for all states, payable only to each state. That is the only way to make it simple enough that most retailers wouldn't be overburdened trying to track it. It would still be a headache though, because they still would have to track sales to each state.

I wish I had a good solution, because right now I don't see one.

It's a simple computer program away. No biggie.

 

[Synthaholic]

This is what happens when the fascists won't tax the wealthy.

they did tax the wealthy pond scum, where the fuck were you? under a rock?

The wealthy pond scum can start paying their fair share.

 

[Synthaholic]

Yet another job-killing, business-killing, bullshit piece of legislation brought to you by the current regime.

Explain how a sales tax kills jobs.

(This should be interesting.)

I doubt it. Unless you find imbeciles interesting.

 

[gallantwarrior]

I suspect that the cost of record keeping will make my organization shut down our tiny internet store.

We offer fee based downloads more as a service, than as a revenue source.

But the moment I have to start collecting taxes for the government is the moment the cost of operations puts that service out of business.

Not all internet businesses directly compete with "brick and mortar" retailers, that is a point missed by legislators who are blinded by the dollar signs dancing before their eyes. There are lots of goods and services traded on the 'net that are unavailable in any other venue. Many of the raw materials I use to make my goods are simply not available in Alaska. Another point ignored by many is the fact that, while not charging taxes may hold some prices down, there is always the added cost of shipping that "levels the playing field" when the final cost to the consumer is calculated.

 

[Synthaholic]

I suspect that the cost of record keeping will make my organization shut down our tiny internet store.

We offer fee based downloads more as a service, than as a revenue source.

But the moment I have to start collecting taxes for the government is the moment the cost of operations puts that service out of business.

Not all internet businesses directly compete with "brick and mortar" retailers, that is a point missed by legislators who are blinded by the dollar signs dancing before their eyes. There are lots of goods and services traded on the 'net that are unavailable in any other venue. Many of the raw materials I use to make my goods are simply not available in Alaska. Another point ignored by many is the fact that, while not charging taxes may hold some prices down, there is always the added cost of shipping that "levels the playing field" when the final cost to the consumer is calculated.

^^^isn't aware of tax exceptions.


....and how is your town/county/state being deprived of operational income "leveling the playing field"?

 

[gallantwarrior]

This is what happens when the fascists won't tax the wealthy.

the wealthy arent taxed?

Then exactly where does 70% of the tax revenue come from seeing as only 30% comes from the "non wealthy"?

They can never tax enough to satisfy these politicians need to spend...This crap will decrease revenue in the long run

Not to mention the businesses it will destroy. So, my question to these tax-and-spend pols would be: How are you going to increase tax revenues by taxing businesses that no longer exist?

 

[Sallow]

Yet another job-killing, business-killing, bullshit piece of legislation brought to you by the current regime.

And, exactly, what job will it kill?

You do understand how internet commerce works, don't ya?


If anything..THAT'S WHAT IS KILLING JOBS.

 

[gallantwarrior]

Isn't it hilarious when Democrats realize that merely taxing the rich isn't going to pay for their crazy and reckless spending habits. Do Democrats really think things like this will be forgotten by next years elections?

Democrats think that an internet tax will make them a slam dunk for 2014. It will turn the house and senate to 100% democrat.

They may sadly be correct, depending on how they "sell" this to the stupid sheeple that keep putting those pols back into control. Seems that the "tax the rich" mantra sells quite well to a large sector of the (ignorant) voting public.

 

[Sallow]

the wealthy arent taxed?

Then exactly where does 70% of the tax revenue come from seeing as only 30% comes from the "non wealthy"?

They can never tax enough to satisfy these politicians need to spend...This crap will decrease revenue in the long run

Not to mention the businesses it will destroy. So, my question to these tax-and-spend pols would be: How are you going to increase tax revenues by taxing businesses that no longer exist?

Part of that "Tax and Spend" goes to upgrading the telecommunications infrastructure these business refuse to upgrade on their own. And it's their damned traffic that requires it.

 

[Wildman]

I guess Obama is breaking, again, his promise not to raise taxes on households with less than $250,000 annual income.

ANYONE WHO BELIEVES HE HAS EVER TOLD THE TRUTH MUST NEED NEW HEARING AIDS !!

anyone recall when the liarinchief said:

John McCain has not talked about my Muslim faith,

sooooooo..., being a muslime he is required by his koran to LIE !!

i just hope you liarberals come for an education in TRUTH and PATRIOTISM

 

[Brain357]

Yet another job-killing, business-killing, bullshit piece of legislation brought to you by the current regime.

You don't have a clue what you're talking about.

Internet business have an unfair advantage, especially on large purchases. Just ask Guitar Center. Someone buying a $3,000 mixing board that they have already researched and know that they want is faced with a choice of paying an extra $210 to buy it locally (based on a 7% sales tax).

Only those totally skittish about buying online would take that choice. So that ends up costing your community - schools/fire/police/roads, etc. - and only enriches the Jeff Bezos of the world.

How much is shipping?

 

[DiamondDave]

This is what happens when the fascists won't tax the wealthy.

they did tax the wealthy pond scum, where the fuck were you? under a rock?

The wealthy pond scum can start paying their fair share.

Fair is subjective, you progressive moron... And you and your ilk like using that term because it opens up the door for unequal treatment by government because it makes you feel good to tax someone ELSE more and you less...

 

[DiamondDave]

They can never tax enough to satisfy these politicians need to spend...This crap will decrease revenue in the long run

Not to mention the businesses it will destroy. So, my question to these tax-and-spend pols would be: How are you going to increase tax revenues by taxing businesses that no longer exist?

Part of that "Tax and Spend" goes to upgrading the telecommunications infrastructure these business refuse to upgrade on their own. And it's their damned traffic that requires it.

Sorry.. just because business cannot or will not do something right this minute like you want, does not make it the job of government to do it now for you

 

[Againsheila]

Harry Reid and Wal-Mart hope nobody will notice their online revenue raid.

By The Wall Street Journal

Every time Congress has taken a serious look at proposals to boost Internet sales taxes, it has rejected them. That’s probably why pro-tax Senators are trying to rush through an online tax hike with as little consideration as possible.

As early as Monday, the Senate will vote on a bill that was introduced only last Tuesday. The text of this legislation, which would fundamentally change interstate commerce, only became available on the Library of Congress website over the weekend. And you thought ObamaCare was jammed through Nancy Pelosi‘s Democratic House in a hurry.

For Senators curious about what they’re voting on, it is the same flawed proposal that Mike Enzi (R., Wyo.) introduced in February. It has been repackaged to qualify for a Senate rule that allows Majority Leader Harry Reid to bypass committee debate and bring it straight to the floor.

Mr. Enzi’s Marketplace Fairness Act discriminates against Internet-based businesses by imposing burdens that it does not apply to brick-and-mortar companies. For the first time, online merchants would be forced to collect sales taxes for all of America’s estimated 9,600 state and local taxing authorities.

New Hampshire, for example, has no sales tax, but a Granite State Web merchant would be forced to collect and remit sales taxes to all the governments that do. Small online sellers will therefore have to comply with tax laws created by distant governments in which they have no representation, and in places where they consume no local services.

Meanwhile, New Hampshire’s brick-and-mortar retailers will bear no such burden. They will not be required to collect taxes on the many customers who drive across the Maine and Massachusetts borders to shop in New Hampshire. Bill sponsors say it would be too big a hassle to force traditional retailers to ask every walk-in customer where they live, but these Senators are happy to impose new obligations online.

The Enzi plan would require a centralized tax collector for each state or for a group of states that would gather both state and local levies from the online merchants. His office concedes that could still mean 27 or more different auditors of a Web-based business—which is better than 9,600 but hardly qualifies as simplicity

HARRY REID READY TO RUSH THROUGH INTERNET SALES TAX; OBAMA ENDORSES | sreaves32

Nothing like another regressive tax in the system.