Harry reid ready to rush through internet sales tax; obama endorses

[editec]

I suspect that the cost of record keeping will make my organization shut down our tiny internet store.

We offer fee based downloads more as a service, than as a revenue source.

But the moment I have to start collecting taxes for the government is the moment the cost of operations puts that service out of business.

 

[Brain357]

Harry Reid and Wal-Mart hope nobody will notice their online revenue raid.

By The Wall Street Journal

Every time Congress has taken a serious look at proposals to boost Internet sales taxes, it has rejected them. That’s probably why pro-tax Senators are trying to rush through an online tax hike with as little consideration as possible.

As early as Monday, the Senate will vote on a bill that was introduced only last Tuesday. The text of this legislation, which would fundamentally change interstate commerce, only became available on the Library of Congress website over the weekend. And you thought ObamaCare was jammed through Nancy Pelosi‘s Democratic House in a hurry.

For Senators curious about what they’re voting on, it is the same flawed proposal that Mike Enzi (R., Wyo.) introduced in February. It has been repackaged to qualify for a Senate rule that allows Majority Leader Harry Reid to bypass committee debate and bring it straight to the floor.

Mr. Enzi’s Marketplace Fairness Act discriminates against Internet-based businesses by imposing burdens that it does not apply to brick-and-mortar companies. For the first time, online merchants would be forced to collect sales taxes for all of America’s estimated 9,600 state and local taxing authorities.

New Hampshire, for example, has no sales tax, but a Granite State Web merchant would be forced to collect and remit sales taxes to all the governments that do. Small online sellers will therefore have to comply with tax laws created by distant governments in which they have no representation, and in places where they consume no local services.

Meanwhile, New Hampshire’s brick-and-mortar retailers will bear no such burden. They will not be required to collect taxes on the many customers who drive across the Maine and Massachusetts borders to shop in New Hampshire. Bill sponsors say it would be too big a hassle to force traditional retailers to ask every walk-in customer where they live, but these Senators are happy to impose new obligations online.

The Enzi plan would require a centralized tax collector for each state or for a group of states that would gather both state and local levies from the online merchants. His office concedes that could still mean 27 or more different auditors of a Web-based business—which is better than 9,600 but hardly qualifies as simplicity

HARRY REID READY TO RUSH THROUGH INTERNET SALES TAX; OBAMA ENDORSES | sreaves32

This is a big problem. Currently, Internet sellers have a huge advantage over brick and mortar stores, but this would just reverse things in an even worse way. On the surface I do support an Internet sales tax, but not if sellers will have to make payments to every single tax authority in every single state.

About the only way I could support this is if they make one flat tax rate for all states, payable only to each state. That is the only way to make it simple enough that most retailers wouldn't be overburdened trying to track it. It would still be a headache though, because they still would have to track sales to each state.

I wish I had a good solution, because right now I don't see one.

Internet sellers add in shipping which makes it pretty balanced vs brick and mortar now. But the brick and mortar still have the advantage in customers can get what they want now rather than waiting for it to ship to them.

So you think a business should have to do a sales tax form for every single state? So 50 sales tax forms if you happen to sell into every state? That does not sound like a good use of anyone's time.

 

[Brain357]

This would clearly be new tax for everyone to pay. The poor and the rich. I don't think we need to be looking for new ways to slow the economy.

 

[Jroc]

This is what happens when the fascists won't tax the wealthy.

This is what happens with crony capitalism idiot....The little guy loses

 

[Jarhead]

This is what happens when the fascists won't tax the wealthy.

the wealthy arent taxed?

Then exactly where does 70% of the tax revenue come from seeing as only 30% comes from the "non wealthy"?

 

[Jarhead]

And Liberals think Obama only wants to raise taxes on the 1%ers..

Anyone with a brain realizes that taxes need to go up a bit across the board. What most people forget is that if we ever get the economy growing again, tax revenues are going to increase and spending on social welfare programs will decrease. We are already heading in that direction.

Your post contradicts itself.

Red...taxes NEED to go up acorss the borad
Blue....economic growth will increase tax revenue...so taxes do BNOT need to go up across theboard.

However....implementing RED will hamper the success fo BLUE

 

[Skull Pilot]

Think about this.

A retailer would have to set up a tax ID number for each state and municipality that charges sales tax. Record entries, file paperwork and remit payment to possibly hundreds of government agencies every month and they would be liable for penalties and fines from states where they have no representation whatsoever and they would be forced to do all this for free.

Tell me would any of you sheep think that a government employee should be forced to work a few days a month with no pay? If not then why the fuck should anyone else?

 

[Jroc]

This is what happens when the fascists won't tax the wealthy.

the wealthy arent taxed?

Then exactly where does 70% of the tax revenue come from seeing as only 30% comes from the "non wealthy"?

They can never tax enough to satisfy these politicians need to spend...This crap will decrease revenue in the long run

 

[Katzndogz]

Isn't it hilarious when Democrats realize that merely taxing the rich isn't going to pay for their crazy and reckless spending habits. Do Democrats really think things like this will be forgotten by next years elections?

Democrats think that an internet tax will make them a slam dunk for 2014. It will turn the house and senate to 100% democrat.

 

[depotoo]

HARRY REID READY TO RUSH THROUGH INTERNET SALES TAX; OBAMA ENDORSES | sreaves32

This is a big problem. Currently, Internet sellers have a huge advantage over brick and mortar stores, but this would just reverse things in an even worse way. On the surface I do support an Internet sales tax, but not if sellers will have to make payments to every single tax authority in every single state.

About the only way I could support this is if they make one flat tax rate for all states, payable only to each state. That is the only way to make it simple enough that most retailers wouldn't be overburdened trying to track it. It would still be a headache though, because they still would have to track sales to each state.

I wish I had a good solution, because right now I don't see one.

Internet sellers add in shipping which makes it pretty balanced vs brick and mortar now. But the brick and mortar still have the advantage in customers can get what they want now rather than waiting for it to ship to them.

So you think a business should have to do a sales tax form for every single state? So 50 sales tax forms if you happen to sell into every state? That does not sound like a good use of anyone's time.

thus why amazon quit selling into every state.

 

[depotoo]

My question, having not personally delved into this, is this a federal sales tax they are looking into or is it at the state level?

 

[LogikAndReazon]

There is nothing that these collectivist parasites wont tax..............

All for the common good of course

 

[Brain357]

I think it is clear everyone should be against this. It's the government shooting our economy in the foot again. Liberals should hate it because its a new tax for the poor and middle class. Conservatives should hate it cause its a new tax.

 

[Katzndogz]

Democrats should run with it. This is an issue that will secure a 2014 sweep of all 50 states. Then they can promote the financial transaction tax that will impose a tax on every financial transaction from the checks you write, to the debit card you swipe at the grocery store to on-line bill pay.

 

[DiamondDave]

Mo tax.. to spend mo.. to require mo tax.. to spend mo... to hand out mo... to require mo tax

Yeah... government is not growing too big

 

[WillowTree]

And Liberals think Obama only wants to raise taxes on the 1%ers..

Stupid ain't them?

 

[WillowTree]

This is what happens when the fascists won't tax the wealthy.

they did tax the wealthy pond scum, where the fuck were you? under a rock?

 

[WillowTree]

I suspect that the cost of record keeping will make my organization shut down our tiny internet store.

We offer fee based downloads more as a service, than as a revenue source.

But the moment I have to start collecting taxes for the government is the moment the cost of operations puts that service out of business.

I'm so damn glad you vote democrat. Search hard now for a way to blame the Republicans.

 

[hazlnut]

Yet another job-killing, business-killing, bullshit piece of legislation brought to you by the current regime.

Explain how a sales tax kills jobs.

(This should be interesting.)

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

This is what happens when the fascists won't tax the wealthy.

This is what happens when you give socialists too much power.

No. This is what happens when you make the penalty for not taxing the super wealthy acceptable. This country has absorbed the Sequestration without batting an eye. It wasn't harsh enough.

The super wealthy don't get taxed? When'd this happen?